372. Impossible Cure: The Gentle Power of Homeopathy - Amy Lansky

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Welcome to the meditation conversation, the podcast to support your spiritual revolution. I'm your host, Cara Goodwin. Okay. If you've been listening to this podcast, you may have noticed that I've brought up homeopathy in the last few months. I've become fascinated with homeopathy and in my personal studies, I thoroughly enjoyed reading a book called Impossible Cure by Amy Lansky.

I was so enamored with this book that I tracked down the author, and I was very honored that she joined me in this episode. Amy will share her vast knowledge of homeopathy and the cure within her own family that's enough to make anyone curious about the prospects of homeopathy for their own health journey. This episode is not just for those who are already interested in homeopathy, but gives an introduction as well and helps you understand the possibilities that you may not even be aware of.

That exists within this gentle, but powerful [00:01:00] treatment option.

Amy Lansky graduated from the university of Rochester in 1977 with degrees in mathematics and computer science and received her doctorate in computer science from Stanford in 1983. After conducting research work in artificial intelligence at SRI international and NASA in Silicon Valley, 1998 to pursue her interest in homeopathic medicine.

This unusual move was prompted by the miraculous cure of her son's autism with homeopathy.

since that time, Amy has expanded her work to include explorations into consciousness, synchronicity, manifestation, other modes of alternative healing, and most recently, Providing commentary and insight into the ongoing dramatic changes in today's world. So you'll notice in this episode, we also talk about the effects of homeopathy on plants and pets.

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Kara Goodwin: Well, welcome, Amy. I have really been looking forward to talking to you. I'm so honored that you're here today. Thank you for being here. 

Amy Lansky: Thank you for inviting me.

Kara Goodwin: read both of, I've read both of your books, Impossible Cure and Active Consciousness, and I'm fascinated by your path because you were fully immersed in a completely different reality and then you had a turn. And, um, that that that dance between high academia and homeopathy is fascinating. It's, I [00:03:00] imagine it's felt like you've had a foot in both worlds for a foot in two boats for a while, but, um, please, can you share your story with us? 

Amy Lansky: Well, you know, I could say it all began when my son became sick, but the truth was that I, even as a small child, I was a very spiritual person. Um, I mean, I, I believed, and I was brought up, pretty religious. So, um, and unlike my peers who went to the same parochial school that I did, who didn't believe anything, I actually, I did, I felt a connection to God.

So, so I think that helped, you know, so, um, and I, you know, I remember my first work after I got my PhD at Stanford. I was working at a research lab nearby [00:04:00] and nearby was a metaphysical bookstore and on my lunch breaks, I would go there and that's when I really started like exploring, you know, things like I talk about this inactive consciousness about higher dimensionality and the energy bodies.

I didn't know anything about that. Um, but, uh, my and I always was vaguely interested in medicine a bit. My husband used to say, why don't you just go to medical school? You know, I slept with medical techs next to my bed. But, um, but then when, um, so, you know, this is my story, how I ended up leaving computer science and writing my first book, which is a general introduction to homeopathy, was that my younger son, I have two sons, 33 and 36, but so this was a long time ago, um, at the very beginning of when autism was [00:05:00] starting to kind of take off.

And, um, like so many kids, he started, He started okay. And then he started drifting away, right. When he was about two, two and a half. it's what's become unfortunately so common now, but back then it was really. Uh, not so common.

This was, uh, 1994, not around them. And, um, the nursery school where I had him was said, no, he can no longer attend, you should seek help. He would like just be by himself. He could not interact. He didn't interact with any other children. a friend of mine suggested we see a speech and language therapist and not get him diagnosed, which I'm very glad at the time, although later that all kind of came into play.

But, um, so she just started work with him. [00:06:00] I started looking for answers, right? And. And then, you know, the speech and language therapist told me that he was autistic. And then later the doctor admitted it too. So, but, um, at the beginning we were looking at diets and there weren't all these diets back then.

There was really nothing, but one thing I found this thing called the Feingold diet. Which said that milk is often a problem. And he was like addicted to milk. And this is something I've learned. Cause now I've been involved in this world for 30 years. Um, that the, what these kids are addicted to it, like they really want is often what's making them worse. So I took him off of milk. And he started to sort of emerge a bit at that point. But then he started really, uh, being less mute and then having more symptoms of autism, which is [00:07:00] like echolalia, which is repeating what he's heard and stuff like that. at the time, too, there, you know, there's a, uh, alternative parenting magazine called Mothering Magazine.

I don't know if you ever heard of it. Um.

It's become, yeah, it's become less alternative over the years. But, and at the time I found this article about homeopathy was like three pages long for behavioral problems. And in fact, you know, I, I know the author now very well. And, uh, and I said to my husband, let's, let's do, it was like, I don't know what it was.

We were sitting in bed. I read this three page article and I said, let's do it. And I showed it to me and said, okay, let's do it. And I had a friend, um, who was an acupuncturist and she, I said, you know, a homeopath and I can discuss what homeopathy is, but, um, and she knew that [00:08:00] this guy had just moved to Palo Alto, which is near where I live, near Stanford.

And, and so we went and he prescribed remedy, you know, autism treatment, especially is very individualized to the symptoms of each patient. And that said, there's you know, common, commonly used remedies. And, within a week we were starting to see changes like subtle changes, like a little more eye contact or connection or just more presence.

And about a week later, like Max, my son, this is my son, Max. He was having a bi weekly sessions with the, with the therapist. And she said, What did you do? She, no, I didn't tell her. She used to like give, say, say, you know, do these commands, like pick up the ball and put it somewhere [00:09:00] else. And before he could only follow one command, he couldn't do a sequence of two and suddenly he could do two.

And it was very gradual. This is not like an overnight thing, but slowly he's emerging from this. And at that point he had already qualified for special education benefits, you know, these IEPs and this and that. Um, by, let's see, that was three and a half, by like nine months later, she retested him. He no longer was qualifying for benefits and, and took him off of benefits.

And um, by the time, so we start on homeopathy when it's three and a half. By the time he was five, he was, um, I, I actually didn't put him in, uh, like. This private school that my other son went to till first grade. Um, but as he [00:10:00] changed, he was behind emotionally and, and behaviorally.

So I had to switch schools, uh, for him because they didn't understand what was going on with him. And, and I moved him anyway, finally, by first grade, he was in mainstream school and there were still like a lot of these kids who are recovering. They might move from autism into sort of learning disability.

like he would miss, uh, you know, audio instructions sometimes. And I just had the teachers write things down or, you know, make sure he got the instruction. But then by we changed remedies as needed. By the time he was in third grade, fourth grade, no problems. And, um, by the time, and then when he went through puberty, there was, this is very common with these kids.

If they're recovering, another huge shift. And he was, became like an A student, [00:11:00] very popular in high school and stuff like that. So, uh, yeah. So, what changed me? This, this weird therapy completely altered the course of my life, my whole family's life. You know, people think that this is impossible. And then, you know, I started studying it and I started writing an article cause I'm a academic type and I ended up writing my book.

So because people don't understand that this is really a very deeply scientific form of medicine, if you want to call it science, it's just addressing an aspect of who we are, that's not strictly on the physical level. 

Kara Goodwin: And that it's incredible. Your story is fascinating. And I do encourage people. If, if anything that you've said has resonated, please do read impossible cure, [00:12:00] because there is so much in there in what you just said, where it's like, people think this is impossible. People think that. It doesn't make sense.

You called it a weird remedy, you know, and it's it, the, and I do want to get into what homeopathy is and why it's so weird, but, I also want to underscore, you've mentioned Stanford a couple of times, like you are, you and your husband, both are highly, highly intelligent people. This isn't just like a, you know, we're, you know, there are lots of different lifestyles.

But I think that you speak to a certain type of intellect because of your background, um, and just your, your high intelligence. Um, so it's, it's, and it's a deeply moving story that with Max and in the journey that you went on as a mother and the promise that so many people can relate to trying to find the [00:13:00] right. Key to go in the lock with autism. it's really, really inspiring. Not even, I mean, for me, I don't have a child with autism, but the possibility is just reading through it. It just breaks through the limitations of what we think is possible. but let's, let's go next to what homeopathy is. Can you talk a little bit about that? 

Amy Lansky: Okay, let me also just say that, uh, this book is a general introduction to homeopathy. It's not a book about, uh, Max, it's not a book about autism. There's a chapter that tells the story I just told you basically, but most of the book is everything you want to know about homeopathy except It's not a how to book.

So because of that it's used as a, um, as a first year textbook at a lot of schools and um, it's also a lot of, a lot of, uh, homeopaths [00:14:00] require their patients to read it because homeopathy is so different in its view of health and healing and disease that it really helps if the patient is educated.

before they go into this process because it's so different in orientation than conventional allopathic medicine. So what is homeopathy? So the word homeopathy actually defines what it is. So homeo means similar and pathy means suffering. In fact, all the remedy names are always in Latin too. And, um, so the general principle of, uh, homeopathy is that In fact, you know, in conventional medicine, it sort of catches, catch, can, what is used to treat what.

Sometimes they don't even know why it works. In homeopathy, there's a single principle of therapeutics, which is that, uh, if a substance can cause [00:15:00] symptoms in a healthy person, then it can cure those symptoms in a sick person. So the example I always, um, use, because people understand it, is like the, Like what does coffee do to us?

Why do we like to drink coffee? Because it makes us really alert and a clear mind, but it can also keep us up at night. It can also cause diarrhea, right? Move your bowels and stuff like that. So, uh, and so the remedy, there's a remedy made from coffee, and I'll get into that. So it could also treat those kind of symptoms in a person who, like for example, is suffering from a certain kind of insomnia, not all insomnias, but a specific kind of insomnia where your mind is full of thoughts and you can't, and you're, um, excited and elated, [00:16:00] that coffee feeling, and maybe you're running to the bathroom and, um, You know, that's a pattern of insomnia, especially when you can't fall asleep after a party or something like, so, um, So, but not all insomnias are like that, right?

So, uh, so that's another critical thing, is that there's no take this for that thing in homeopathy. Um, sometimes there's certain remedies that are commonly used for certain things, but in general, it's not, it's not the case. So, um, Now, the weird thing about homeopathy is there's actually many drugs that allopaths are still used that were developed by, used by homeopaths, um, but they're used in crude form.

Um, I mean, a very typical example is people using Ritalin for hyperactive kids because Ritalin is a stimulant. It's you know, [00:17:00] if somebody, if some non hyperactive person took Ritalin, it would make them hyperactive, right? And then we give it. to hyperactive kids to calm them down. So it is working by the law of similars, but it's given in a toxic form.

So, uh, the founder of homeopathy, Samuel Hahnemann, which who was a doctor, a scientist, a medical translator, I can tell the story of, I have a whole chapter about how he developed homeopathy in the, um, beginning of the 1800s. But, um, he realized that these, these substances he was experimenting with and used could be toxic.

And most of these medicines are toxic. are toxic in material form. So he started diluting them. And then of course, after a while they stopped working. So then he got this idea, since he was also a chemist, what if he tried to make sure they were like [00:18:00] really super mixed well, and he had, he developed this process of alternatively diluting and shaking it extremely vigorously.

And much to his own surprise, they started working better, the more he did this. So although they are beyond Avogadro's number, in which case there's not a single molecule left, although the discovery of Avogadro's number was in his lifetime but was after he developed this process, um, there's still something there that's doing something. Right. 

Kara Goodwin: a really

point that I don't want to get lost is that it's diluted so much that if you were to look at the molecular structure, there is not a trace of the substance there. this is where we start to get into that weirdness, 

Amy Lansky: Right. 

Kara Goodwin: the,

it starts to become like it's working on the energy plane, but it's not, it's [00:19:00] technically the physical, the way that we. Um, identify physicality, there are no markers there.

Amy Lansky: So of course Hahnemann was like also fascinated with this, this fact. And at the time there was still, uh, there was still a belief in, in the vital force in conventional medicine, which is essentially our energy body, essentially, um, the etheric body in my cosmology. And, and that's, that's the thing that acupuncture is working on and many alternative therapies are working on the energy body, which the belief is that is what controls our physical body.

So if you can heal this energy body, then your physical body will start healing too. So in homeopathy, uh, these, these remedies are not forcing your physical body to do something. They're [00:20:00] actually resonating with the body. your energy body in a certain way that stimulates it to start healing. So, um, it's giving your body information.

Now, in the past 20, 30 years, there's like this whole field now of water science and they're starting to, you know, do experiments that show this is the case. And, uh, it's, it's pretty controversial, like famous, like Nobel prize winning scientists. have demonstrated that this process that Hahnemann discovered 200 years ago actually preserves the properties of the physical substance.

 So this, French Nobel prize winner, Luc Montaigne, He started experimenting with this process of alternative dilution and shaking. It's like homeopaths call it [00:21:00] succession and found that even at these high dilutions, the properties of these substances were preserved.

I want you to think about this. If you could take a very expensive allopathic drug and dilute it this way, and it's still working, that means you would have like billions of doses essentially for free. Okay, and there's even people who have experimented with somehow electronically recording information from the dilution 

Kara Goodwin: Really? 

Amy Lansky: transmitting it like through email or sound and seeing if it works.

And it does. And so you can transmit, I mean, this is pretty far out even for homeopaths, but transmit a remedy through sound, through, yeah. So, um, or embed this energy in the water somewhere and then just take it. So this is pretty far out, but all of this is pointing to the [00:22:00] fact that Hahnemann was right, it's working.

 So what's amazing is that the, the process of homeopathy is really, If somebody is having symptoms, any disease, their, their, their body is in a state of vibration that creates this disease.

And what homeopathy is all about is finding some substance that is similar to the energy of this person's disease and transmitting that energy back to them in this energy form. And, and then that somehow stimulates the energy body. to, to heal, to heal itself and the physical body. So, um, it's so miraculous, you know, but the thing about homeopathy, it's very hard to find the right remedy sometimes.

And that's what makes it an art, [00:23:00] uh, makes it difficult. So like autism treatment is in particular is extremely difficult because these kids are in fact much sicker than they used to be because Of what's going on, uh, many factors in our society, food and the environment and everything, you know, EMS. So, um, 

Kara Goodwin: Well, it's incredible thinking about that kind of the energy and the, the, that there's like a, an energy that's missing. I have a homeopathic vet because you know, when we start talking about this, naturally, I think some people think, Oh, placebo effect, which, you know, placebo effect is amazing.

Amy Lansky: yeah,

Kara Goodwin: further

Amy Lansky: I the body can the mind is on board. um, I have a homeopathic vet and, um, I, my dog had a little like, uh, uh, cyst on her ear, a little [00:24:00] bump on her ear. So I sent him a text, him for his advice and he said, silica, trisilica 30 C.

Celica. 

Kara Goodwin: there you

he's like, just offer her the water and do it again, you know, once a week until she's better. And so I'm like, well, how am I going to get her to drink this water? You know, how am I going to make her drink it? You know, quote unquote. And I, I, anyway, I put the water down and she just drank it right away. And I'm like, okay, well, that was easy. so I waited a week and I offered it to her again, and this time she wouldn't take it. so I did it a little while later that day again, like, well, maybe she wasn't thirsty. Try it again.

Wouldn't drink it. or maybe she had a little bit, I can't remember. Offered it to her another week later. She wasn't interested. That's it. The, the, the mark on her ear, [00:25:00] did decrease and it eventually went away. It took a, you know, it wasn't like instant, it took a week and a half where I was kind of like, is it, I think it might be getting better, but it was like, I don't know. uh, but yeah, it completely went away with essentially one dose and maybe she took a little bit that second week. Um, But my dog doesn't have a placebo effect. She had no idea what she was taking. She didn't, as far as I know, she didn't know she had anything on her ear anyway. So I just offer that story.

I was fascinated by the results and, um, it's just this we're working on the energy level and it's, it's a different type of, remedy than we get with allopathic medicine, but. It's highly effective. I would love to hear if you can share a little bit about why aren't all doctors homeopaths? If we know how effective it is, it's been around since the early 1800s, [00:26:00] is it so fringe? 

Amy Lansky: Yeah, well, you know what? It didn't used to be French. in this country, in the United States. So, um, yeah, so I can go a little bit into, into all that. But, um, I just got to say, you know, there's a, I mean, first of all, homeopaths are the ones who actually came up with the idea of a placebo controlled trial, because everybody was very skeptical back in the 1800s.

But, uh, but, you know, there's a lot of homeopathy is done on farm animals, and now even on plants. Um, so, um, yeah, and babies and things like that. You know, it's not, it's just not placebo. And after you've had an effective remedy, you kind of, you're kind of, you're convinced, but, uh, Yeah, I and I had a similar thing with my dog.

Got this [00:27:00] tumor on her, on her, her paw, like, you know, where it's hard to heal. It was like a day before we were going away for weeks and had a house sitter come. I took her to the vet and he says, Oh no, you have to have this removed and put a coon. I said, there's just no way I can do this. And I, I gave her a different remedy and I gave her a ton that one day.

And then within two weeks, It had healed, the fur grew back on, I came back from the vacation, I sent this image to the vet, I said, look, what happened? And they went, they just, it was like in one ear and out the other didn't seem possible.

Kara Goodwin: So back to the, like the historical. So, uh, what happened was, um, the, the first homeopath started coming to the United States around the 1830s. And they opened, you know, medical schools. Cause in the early days, all homeopaths were [00:28:00] doctors. and in Europe still, uh, most homeopaths are doctors. So, uh, and in India, especially where homeopathy is major in India.

Amy Lansky: So, um, and. In fact, the first women's medical school was a homeopathic medical school. So it became really, really popular in the United States. And it was the medicine of the elite really, because there were all these epidemics, uh, in the 1800s and homeopathy was the most successful treatment. So a lot of doctors started becoming homeopaths.

So this was very alarming. And the, um, the AMA was formed around this and they basically. went into a battle with the, with the defectors, right? And they banned them from medical societies. And, um, Yeah, I mean it was happening but homeopathy was still used a lot. I [00:29:00] mean there is McKinley, President McKinley erected a statue to Hahnemann.

It's still there in Washington D. C. in 1900 and dedicated it and he wanted, and um, so a lot of famous people used homeopathy, um, uh, especially in the late 1800s. It was the medicine. In World War I there were still homeopathic medical cores. Um, and in the 1918 flu epidemic, They, the homeopaths had a really fantastic record of treatment and like there was a hospital outside of New York City where like they had virtually no deaths from, from the epidemic, you know, so, um, so then what happened was, is that the pharmaceutical industry started [00:30:00] burgeoning and they went after homeopathy as well as, uh, what was called eclectic medicine, which is similar to naturopathy, sort of everything grab bag and went after chiropractic, uh, osteopathy, every alternative form and try to get rid of it.

So by, um, World War II, most of the homeopathic medical schools are all of them because they heard we're about 20, including some. Some that were very famous, the Hahnemann School in Philadelphia, were converted to allopathy. And so, there's this history of animosity, the research of people like Luke Montaigne,

 you know, he was banished. He lost his laboratory in Europe, had to go do his research elsewhere. Um, and he started talking occasionally at homeopathy conferences. Um, this happened to a couple other scientists who ventured into this area of the ultra dilution.

So, um, [00:31:00] You know, I really don't know what's going to happen, but it's, it's, I think it's about money and power and territory. And, um, so, and now what's happening, unfortunately, you know, the person, the FDA was created in the early 1900s. And the person who wrote the legislation, I think it was 1938, was a homeopathic doctor who was, um, a Senator.

 and so they in trying, they, they knew that homeopathic remedies are sort of in a different category because they're inherently non toxic because they're of the dilution, at least at a high dilution. And so they had a separate protected category and now the FDA is trying to say, oh no, they aren't protected.

They have to go through the same drug testing as other things, which is impossible because homeopaths These, these pharmacies are small, they can't afford to do major drug tests. So they are starting to try to [00:32:00] remove homeopathic, our access to homeopathic remedies. So, and people in the homeopathic community are very alarmed about this.

Um, 

Kara Goodwin: Interesting. 

Amy Lansky: home, homeopathy started making a comeback in the seventies. Because there were a lot of hippie doctor types who were starting to learn about it and they went and started studying it and practicing it and then it started and then there was schools forming and it just has grown since the 70s, um, uh, here in the United States. Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: so, with that history of, you know, the, the defense of mainstream against homeopathy, all of your, uh, time that you've been in this homeopathic world and, and being a prominent voice within it. It did. Have you found that within your own experience that there have been any like witch hunts or, or have you been on the [00:33:00] end of any of that? 

Amy Lansky: Um, kind of, not terribly, but, um, I mean, first among my friends. You know, I was, you know, embedded in the whole world of Silicon Valley. My husband and I have both PhDs in computer science and we were, uh, I mean, I lived there from 77 until I left two years ago so we know all these people and some people just couldn't, They thought I joined a cult.

They didn't understand, you know, um, some people would try it like closer friends, you know, and it will go to a homeopath, but they just don't understand it that really they just think it's like going to another doctor and. whatever they're supplying. Right. Um, so, uh, it did shift our perspective [00:34:00] of reality in a fundamental way, both of, you know, our whole family, my husband, and And we started hanging out with different people.

So we did sort of drift from the high tech world, but we were still like, we had the party house of Silicon Valley in the eighties, our house. And we were in nerdy rock bands and we did. We just had a wonderful life there, but Silicon Valley itself has changed. It's not the place it was back then. And it's overtaken now by, it's just all about money now.

And all the hippie glory days of the Bay area are completely gone. And the whole Bay area is essentially Silicon Valley now. So, um, so yeah, it just didn't fit us anymore for various reasons. We decided it was time to get out. 

Kara Goodwin: That makes sense. and then [00:35:00] you have your other book, which is Active Consciousness. So I really enjoyed this book as well because it is exploring. The, the etheric, the spiritual side. Um, and I can completely understand how an interest in homeopathy then cascaded into active consciousness. But, um, tell us about this book and what made you want to write it. 

Amy Lansky: Yeah. And I'm just. finished the like, I hope last draft of my third one too, which goes along these same lines. I think I'd say in, in active consciousness that just, I was after, it was about the time that impossible care came out, that I started being interested in, um, this idea of higher dimensionality, higher dimensional space.

as being an explanation for psychic phenomena and homeopathy and all these other kind of weird things. [00:36:00] And I wrote this paper called consciousness as an active force, which somehow was got very popular and it was, somebody even published it in a physics journal, even though I couldn't understand a single word of anything in the rest of the physical.

So, um, but it was basically saying, um, Thatthere's multiple realities, like our, our, our reality we're perceiving in three dimensions is one of many possible trajectories through four dimensional space. It sounds complicated, but I think I make it pretty understandable and active consciousness.

So it began with that, and then, um, I started learning other types of stuff. And then the other thing that's very strange is that Steve, my husband Steve, uh, did some research.

Kara Goodwin: this. Yes.

Amy Lansky: There's this guy, um, Dean Radin, who [00:37:00] was the chief scientist of the Institute for Noetic Science, which is in Marin, and, uh, and I just through this through weird circles of synchronicities, really, we got to know Russell Targ, who does remote viewing.

In fact, Russell Targ's daughter, who sadly passed away, and I both went out with the same guy in grad school. And, uh, and, um, so, and then Steve implemented some of their experiments at

Kara Goodwin: Isn't that wild?

Amy Lansky: this research lab. Uh, it was a presentiment experiment where, like, uh, I can describe it briefly where they would, um, you know, attach electrodes and everything to people and then show them randomly.

pictures of either disturbing things or calm things. And then if it was a disturbing thing, they'd hear a disturbing sound as well. And of [00:38:00] course, once they saw this image, all their, their readings got wacky. But what was amazing was that it started, It would start before they saw the image. 

Kara Goodwin: I love so much. This experiment comes up a lot in my world and almost to the point where it's like, is that an urban legend? Did that actual, is that, 

Amy Lansky: we 

Kara Goodwin: that

Amy Lansky: inspected it. Why 

Kara Goodwin: I'm like, Oh my God, her husband was part of this amazing 

Amy Lansky: not? In fact, he said nobody inspected his code better than this because it had to be incontrovertible. I mean, it's like a microsecond or whatever before, but they, you know,

um, 

Kara Goodwin: the symptoms, like, let's just say sweaty palms or whatever it is, like, increased perspiration or something or brain activity, but it was happening right before the image showed up. I mean, just 

Amy Lansky: Yes. 

Kara Goodwin: that.

Amy Lansky: so, so we start, you know, I started learning about all of that. And then I [00:39:00] started reading the writings of Gurdjieff and Rudolf Steiner and the energy bodies and stuff like that. And I just realized I had accumulated all this information. So that book, Active Consciousness was my attempt to weave it all together and unify it under my model a little bit, and then also, uh, tied into how does manifestation work.

Because you're basically choosing which path into the future, which trajectory through four dimensions you want to go in. So it's, it's like my grand theory. It's very, um, it's, it's, there's a lot of information in that book and maybe, but I, I, one thing about my writing is somehow I'm able to take really complicated stuff and simplify it.

So, uh, that was true in act in, uh, Impossible Cure. I'm not sure how much I succeeded in [00:40:00] active consciousness. Uh, so, uh, and I guess, can I talk a little about my third book? Uh, so I'm hoping it'll appear early next year. We'll see. And in a way, it's, it's, it's delving into both subjects again. So, um, it's divided into two halves.

Um, the first half of the book is my view. Of all the energy bodies, what their functions are. I was, I was really influenced by Huna, which is, uh, a form of knowledge based, based on Hawaiian shamanism and their views of the energy bodies and what their functions are and stuff. Uh, but I, you know, it's informed by many teachers.

So I have, it goes into all of that and why we are here on planet earth and, What our purpose is reincarnation all this [00:41:00] stuff. So that's the first like say third of the book The second two thirds of the book are is a guidebook to many Healing modalities. It's not like in depth like my first book it's just like describing all these healing modalities and which part of this whole physical, etheric, astral, mental, causal bodies, all our bodies, what they primarily focus on.

And then it gives guidelines for given your symptoms or whatever you're experiencing, what's a good place to start to explore other therapies. And really my purpose is, is that I, I predict, we'll see that, you know, conventional medicine is sort of going down the tubes. Um, and We're going to need to be able to heal ourselves or we're going to need other tools.

And, um, [00:42:00] so, uh, that's sort of one of the underlying premises of the book is how to heal. Although I have a whole chapter on the physical body too. And a lot of alternative therapies are physical. Like I view herbalism as primarily a physical body thing, but it's using tinctures and stuff. It's not an energy thing.

thing, or even chiropractic is people perceive as it's, I think, largely focused on the physical, but they understand, chiropractors understand that there's the energy body and it's going deeper. I view homeopathy as an primarily etheric medicine, but it can also, the etheric body rests between the physical and the other higher energy bodies.

And, uh, so it's can stretch both into the physical and to the higher bodies. Same with acupuncture. Um, sound, I've used sound therapies, the sound [00:43:00] modalities that are becoming popular is also an etheric medicine. So, uh, so that, that's, that's a brief outline of what this book's going to be.

Kara Goodwin: exciting.

Amy Lansky: yeah, yeah. I'm hoping Steve thinks it's my best one, but we'll see what other people.

So, but my most popular book is impossible cure and it's been translated into many languages now and, uh,

Kara Goodwin: It's amazing. 

Amy Lansky: yeah.

Kara Goodwin: had the, uh, the inventor of the Harmonic Egg. Have you heard of the Harmonic Egg?

Amy Lansky: it's the harmonica. 

Kara Goodwin: device that uses sound frequency, light frequency, color. It kind of looks like, well, it looks like an egg. An egg slash spaceship you go in there. I think there's like a zero gravity chair in there and you just are 

Amy Lansky: Oh,

Kara Goodwin: all these frequencies. Um, there's sacred geometry in there and it was built with sacred geometry. And, um, [00:44:00] but I mentioned it when I was interviewing Gail Lynn, who was, is the inventor of it. I was like, you're describing what it's doing, it's reminding me of homeopathy because she talks about, um, with tones, I think we were talking about tones, but you know, with frequency that when we get a depletion, when we're having symptoms, one way to look at it is there's a frequency that's missing.

And so there might be a tone, there might be a sound, there might be a color or a frequency of light that will. Kind of come in and fill that gap and help to make us whole from an energy perspective. And I'm like, it reminds me a lot of what you have written, where you're talking about the, the homeopathic remedy, having a frequency, having like, and it, and there's a gap in our frequency.

And that's why that I always get this word wrong, but you, you mentioned it, the simulum. Simil, 

Amy Lansky: the minimum. [00:45:00] It's the, it's the remedy that's similar to you.

Kara Goodwin: that, that a way to think of that is like the frequency is, is missing you. And the similimum, um, lots of M's there, hopefully I had 

Amy Lansky: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: um, is, is offering that frequency. And it's, 

Amy Lansky: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: it's kind of about with. The, the second two thirds of your book where it's like, here are all these different modalities and some might be more appropriate for what you're experiencing than others, but a lot of them are working on that same model of like, you know, how do we get this completion? You know, what is your body trying to tell you it's missing?

Amy Lansky: Yeah. I'm really lately. I mean, the past few years, I'm very interested in what I call astral body therapies. They're basically, deal with your emotional [00:46:00] self. So things like the Sedona method, uh, where, you know, a lot of our physical diseases are really rooted in some emotional thing and that we need to release it.

So now if I'm not feeling good, the first thing I think is I don't run to get take a remedy because I view it is very powerful. Um, I don't want to do it unless it's necessary. But the first thing I think is What's upsetting me? What happened? You know, how can I clear that disturbance, that emotional disturbance out of, and there's a lot of various tools to do that.

Um, 

so I'm always learning new stuff. I'm not, I'm only in a kind of an expert help me out, but I love to learn new stuff, but I'm very cautious because, really, I once went to one of those sound bowl concerts, you know, the, the bowls, I was just so affected by it.[00:47:00] 

You know, so I think I'm maybe hypersensitive, but I could feel some effects in me for a few days after that experience. because I don't know what in my antidote, the remedy, I'm, I don't know. But, uh, just because it's not physical doesn't mean people shouldn't take them seriously.

Right. It's not just like nothing. Uh, yeah. And the same thing with remedies. They're very powerful. People think, Oh, I can just keep taking it or whatever. It's not like your dog. I wanted to say that dog story, animals, especially children too. They kind of know I've had my dose. I don't need more. I think your dog knew that, you know, your dog knew.

No. Cause sometimes repeating too much can cause a problem. Right. So, uh, your dog knew I've even had people say if it's the right remedy, the animal just like actively wants it. It will [00:48:00] like, you know,

Kara Goodwin: It's fascinating.

Amy Lansky: yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: on the, you know, in the theme of consciousness and, and weirdness, you know, that's kind of the, uh, keyword that's come up a couple of times. if anything comes to mind in terms of some example of something you've experienced that points to a bigger design going on that kind of defies the logic of our physicality.

Does anything come to mind for 

Amy Lansky: yeah, yeah. Well, actually, you know, I talk about this more in my third book. Um, the phenomenon of synchronicity, um, in particular, which is, I think, related to how homeopathy works. Because what is a synchronicity? Okay, a synchronicity is when two things of similar meaning and you could say similar vibration tend to [00:49:00] occur.

It's like a law of physics tend to occur in the same time and space. So that's what a synchronicity is. Okay. And so like, you know, who devised that word, synchronicity, was like some patient was telling this dream about, and that we related to their problems. And then the dream was about this beetle. And then suddenly this beetle comes into the room.

Okay. So that was a synchronous because they were in this energy of this frequency, this meaning zone. And so, and then they attracted this, Beatles to that thing. So like when my husband and I went on the road to leave California, we drove the country for seven months and we decided when we went off, okay, we're going to listen to the various weird synchronicities.

that happen. Um, [00:50:00] and you know, these, these kinds of things, once you look for it, they happen more and more. You could, you don't want to go off into like just imagining everything is a synchronicity, but they're always, um, there's things that just seem so unlikely. Actually, something happened last week. a friend of mine in California, her birthday was Sunday and I, I, I went online and I ordered a gift for her.

And just, just like within five minutes after I did that, and I hadn't talked to her in months and she doesn't do email or anything. I always talk to her on the phone. And, uh, and within a few minutes she, but dialed me by mistake.

Yeah. Oh, another example. It's like, if you're really connected to somebody, One time I have a friend in Hawaii [00:51:00] and at one point I hadn't been there in like two years. And I don't talk to her much. She's totally off grid. She also only uses a telephone. She doesn't have even a computer or a cell phone or anything.

And I, we decided to go, we made the reservation. And then the next day she called me and she said, you're coming.

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Amy Lansky: And I hadn't talked to her, seen her in two years. Yes, 

Kara Goodwin: wow. Well, and you taught in, in active consciousness, I think it was when the whole story of how you even met Steve, 

Amy Lansky: yes,

that was, yeah, in my view, like, um, I really recommend your, your viewers read this book called Journey of Souls

by Nicole Newton. 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Yeah. 

Amy Lansky: draft of my third book and I, one of [00:52:00] the people who read a review, a reviewer said, you should read this book. And that book really influenced Steve and I and helped us realize what, why we had signed up to do this, to leave our home.

And we're not young and do this thing and relocate. And so the idea behind that book is that, you know, When you decide to incarnate, you have a specific purpose, you choose where you're going, and then you're given these reminders. Remember, when this happens, when that happens, try to do this. And so like, I think when you meet the person you're supposed to be with, like the message is delivered through synchronicities. 

Uh, so, uh, so we really were paying attention. Here's just one funny one that happened. We were traveling around and we were, [00:53:00] we, um, we're in a hotel in Asheville, which is an hour and a half from Greenville, which is where we ended up coming. And, and we didn't like Asheville. And suddenly we were there, supposed to be there three nights.

The third day, the entire water for the hotel was broken. Nothing, there was no water. So we couldn't flush the toilet. We couldn't do it. There was like nothing. And it was the afternoon of the third day. And we said, Well, okay, let's just this is this city is kicking us out. We don't like it. It doesn't like us.

Okay, so we rebooked and we went to Greenville a day early and then we loved it. It was like, okay, well 

, that certainly influenced us to like it. You know, um, we actually came back and made our final decision, but, um, later on [00:54:00] another trip. But, um, Yeah. So people should pay attention, especially I think when important decisions are going to be made, your job, your loved one pay attention.

Cause I think the information is there. It's like. It's like somewhere, something is beating you over the head. Pick this person, pick that job, pick that city. I don't know. 

Kara Goodwin: I 

Amy Lansky: attention. Yeah. Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: Well, Amy, this has just been so much fun. Thank you so much for being here today. I am just so delighted with our conversation. I appreciate it. Tell people, remind people of your books and how they can find out more about you.

Amy Lansky: Okay. So, um, well, the best place to go now is my new website. Cause my third book's coming out. I decided to make a unifying website. So, um, it's amylansky. com. So, um, it's still a little under construction and the other sites are [00:55:00] still there, but they're kind of old and I built them like 20 years ago by myself as a computer

So this one looks a little more professional. Amy lansky.com and it has my blog and pointers to my books. Impossible Cure and Active Consciousness, although there are sites Impossible cure.com, active consciousness.com. And uh, so, um, I. You know, and there's a newsletter. You can sign up for the new Amy Lansky newsletter.

Cause I used to have two newsletters. Now they're going to be one newsletter. And, uh, so that's still a little bit in process, but amylansky. com is the place to start.

Kara Goodwin: Wonderful. Well, thank you so much. What an honor to be with you today, Amy. 

Amy Lansky: Thank you for inviting me, Cara. So. 

Kara Goodwin: Absolutely. 

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