379. The Curse of King Tut's Tomb – A Deep Dive with Mark Anthony, JD Psychic Explorer

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Kara Goodwin: welcome everybody. I'm so excited to be here today with the amazing Mark Anthony, JD psychic explorer. And I know that everybody knows Mark Anthony, but I'm still going to introduce him.

Let me get you up here on the screen to Mark. So Mark Anthony, JD, psychic explorer, also known as the psychic lawyer, lawyer is a fourth generation psychic medium who communicates with spirits. He's an Oxford educated attorney licensed to practice law in Florida, Washington DC, and before the U S Supreme court.

Mark travels to mystical locations in remote. In remote corners of the world to examine ancient mysteries and supernatural phenomena. Mark was named a notable graduate by Britain's Arthur Finley college of psychic science. He's an [00:01:00] honoree of spiritual awakenings, international circle of honor, and he received the OMI award for best psychic medium by own times and I spirit media.

He co hosts the psychic and the doc recently awarded best radio show, 2024. By best holistic life magazine. Mark's latest book is the afterlife frequency, the scientific proof of spiritual contact and how that awareness will change your life. This book was submitted for a Pulitzer and has been endorsed by the world's top survival of consciousness and near death experience scientists recommended by film icon, Shirley McClain, and designated as one of the top 16 books about belief in God by pretty progressive.

com. His other bestselling books are evidence of eternity and never letting go. And today we are going to focus our conversation on the curse of King Tut's tomb, which I am super excited about. [00:02:00]So welcome Mark. I am so excited to have this discussion today.

Mark Anthony: Thank you, Kara. It's Egyptology is one of my passions.

And when it comes to King Tut's tomb, who can resist? You have an ancient Egyptian pharaoh, lost treasure, adventure, a curse, and the ongoing mysteries. I mean, it's Indiana Jones meets, uh, You know, um, it's, it's, it's the, the, the real thing. It's the real thing. And I, and I, and, and for over a century, since the discovery of Tutankhamen's tomb, people have been mystified tantalized.

And to this day, there are still mysteries emanating from the tomb, which are confounding historians and Egyptologists alike.

Kara Goodwin: It is so fascinating, and I know I shared, for those who get my, my emails, I know I shared this already, but I remember being in sixth grade social [00:03:00] studies, and we came upon the, the discovery of the ancient pyramids and the work that was done a hundred years ago to, to try to figure out what was going on with this, and I was captivated, and I could not by it.

I was really very rarely interested in social studies and history. And so reading like the textbook was always a drag, you know, it was like, Oh, I've got to read it. So I'll read it. But I was, I, it was almost confusing because it was so interesting, but there were so many, there were more questions than answers.

Like there was no, nobody really knew what was going on, but. There were all these like supernatural things that were happening with the, um, the explorers and, and so many things that I know you'll talk about. So when we were talking about it before our last recording, I was hooked. I was like, Oh my goodness.

What else do you know? So I'm so excited to talk about this.

Mark Anthony: Well, thank you. [00:04:00] Uh, you know, before we start, let me give a, a context, uh, of the amount of time that we're talking about. When people think of ancient Egypt, they sort of lump everything together. Pyramids, King Tut, Cleopatra, all that. We're talking about an extremely ancient civilization, and I, I know the archaeologists and the geologists have been working on the Giza Plateau.

And the Giza Plateau is near Cairo, and, and that's where the Great Sphinx is and the pyramids are. And it, it According to Egyptologists, the Great Pyramid was constructed 2, 500 BC, which means 4, 500 years ago, and It now appears that the Great Sphinx is much older than that. And the reason for this is there are erosion marks on the Great Sphinx consistent with [00:05:00] rains from a tropical rainforest.

We do know from from geologic surveys and evidence. That the Giza Plateau at one time was not part of the Sahara Desert But rather a tropical rainforest and that time was after the last ice age roughly 9, 000 years ago So it's like whoa, then there's the other anomaly that the head of the Great Sphinx is disproportionate to the size of its body and the Egyptians were so meticulous in all of their perspective and design and I know the The sculptor, actually, Robert Nyland, he has been working on the Great Sphinx, and he believes, based on his studies, that the head of the Great Sphinx was the Initially a lion's head and that by the fourth dynasty of egypt, which would have been 2, 500 [00:06:00] years ago pharaoh khafre Had the great sphinx head whittled down to resemble his So that's the great pyramids.

Okay Now, that was 2500 BC, Teuton Common lived roughly 1300 BC, and the age of the pharaohs, the first pharaoh was 5000 years ago, 3100 BC. The last pharaoh was Egypt's most famous ruler, Cleopatra. The last person to hold the title of pharaoh was a woman, Queen Cleopatra. Now, Cleopatra Is closer in time to the release of the iphone 7 in in the year 2007 Than she was to the construction of the great pyramid In other words the iphone was 2 000 years [00:07:00] away from cleopatra The great pyramid was 2, 500 years away from her.

This is yeah, and most people don't realize that this is an enormous period of time. And so after the era of the pyramids, which was in the fourth dynasty, um, then the Egypt declined and then it, it reassembled into what is known as the The age of the pyramids is the Old Kingdom. The Middle Kingdom was a resurgence of Egyptian power.

Then there was a decline there. And then around 1500 B. C. Egypt emerged as a superpower. And they conquered an empire. Which stretched from modern day Libya all the way up to to modern day Syria Along the whole basically whole southeastern section of the mediterranean And that's known as the new kingdom and king tutankhamen lived during The height of the new kingdom's [00:08:00] power, roughly 1300 B.

1. So I just wanted to give a bit of a context there because, you know, people think like, you know, Julius Caesar and Tutankhamen knew each other when there was 1200 years between them.

Kara Goodwin: Well, and it is easy to like lump. You know, ancient Egypt all together. It's really interesting that you bring up Cleopatra because what was her partners name, Anthony,

Mark Anthony: Mark Antony.

It's funny. It's like, yes. So we have Mark Antony talking about Cleopatra and it's funny because, you know, people are like Mark Anthony, like, uh, like, you know, and, and I used to always get Cleopatra jokes. Now I get Jennifer Lopez jokes. Okay. So. So either, uh, Cleopatra's boyfriend or J Lo's ex, that's how you remember me.

Kara Goodwin: Oh my gosh, that's so funny. So in your studies, in your exploration of, um, Egyptology, what can you tell us about what has been [00:09:00] discovered in King Tut's tomb and Howard Carter and Certainly. And all of all of that mystery.

Mark Anthony: Well, first off, um, the reason I explained the timeline is Tutankhamen had nothing to do with the pyramids.

The Giza Plateau is 300 miles north of where Tutankhamen was buried in an area they call the Valley of the Kings. And to date, 63, uh, tombs have been located in the Valley of the Kings. And, you know, it was the new kingdom and And what's, what was really sad is that, um, in the gosh, there's so much here to talk about, but, uh, the, the Valley of the Kings was excavated by modern archeologists beginning in the mid to late 1800s and tomb after tomb was found fabulous tombs, but they had all been plundered [00:10:00] by grave robbers thousands of years ago.

And what happened, Kara. Was archeologist. Um, in fact, um, one of one of my favorite guys of all time his name was sir flinders petri I love his name sir flinders petri and he he started training a whole new generation of archaeologists to employ the scientific method Be very meticulous and they kept finding a symbol It's called a cartouche and and you'll see hieroglyphs and then there's an oval shape around it Whenever there was an oval shape around around Egyptian symbols, that was the name of a king and they kept seeing They found this this beautiful glass cup with the cartouche of a king Tutankhamen and they found this in the valley of the kings and what's known as a cache in other words They found an underground chamber.

It wasn't a tomb. It was like a storage room and a workhouse That the laborers [00:11:00] of the new kingdom were working on as they're making the, the other, uh, tombs for the Kings in the area. Then in another cache, they found a piece of cloth with the name of Tutankhamen again. And this one was in conjunction with his queen Ancestor Namin.

So, so. What happened was archaeologists realized there was a missing pharaoh that they couldn't find and but by 1900 1902 Nobody had found anything with toot in common. They figured it was all tapped out except for one man Howard carter Now, Howard Carter is also one of my favorite people in history.

He was already a distinguished archaeologist he actually found the the tomb of Tutum of Thutmose IV and I hope we get a chance to talk about Thutmose IV because that's going to be really cool And [00:12:00] he was obsessed with Tutankhamen. Everyone else was telling him, oh Howard, you know, it's pointless, it's probably mythology, you know, it could be a misinterpretation.

But he met a British aristocrat by the name of George Marleno, um, Herbert, In other words, Lord Carnarvon and Lord Carnarvon was an armchair archaeologist. In other words, he liked studying Egyptology and he also had suffered from chronic health conditions. So, in the brutal English winters, he would go to Cairo.

And to Egypt and he would, you know, he would explore Egyptian, uh, tombs and artifacts. And he met Howard Carter and Carter said, I believe I can find the tomb of Tutankhamen. So Lord Carnarvon funds this. Now, um, I wish we could get a show of hands. How many people here have seen Downton Abbey? Okay. [00:13:00]

Kara Goodwin: Patty, you guys can if you, if you've got that react button, you can raise your hand there if you want to, but

Mark Anthony: now we, we, you know, I, I like period film pieces and I love Downton Abbey Howard, excuse me, Lord Carnarvon lived in high Claire castle, which is where Downton Abbey was filmed.

Okay, so every time we see Downton Abbey, that's Highclere Castle in England, and all the scenes in Downton Abbey are filmed in Highclere Castle, except the ones involving the basement. You know, where the staff sits and they eat their breakfast and lunch, that was filmed at a TV studio. Why? Well, according to rumor, It's off limits because it houses the Carnarvon family's private Egyptian collection.

And to this day, the eighth Earl of Carnarvon, Lord Carnarvon's great [00:14:00] great grandson, still lives at Highclere Castle, so it's still within the Carnarvon family. Meanwhile, back in Egypt, Lord Carnarvon starts funding Howard Carter. And let me tell you something. Um, an expedition of this magnitude was not cheap.

You had at least 100 laborers, you know, had to have a foreman Howard carter was living in a nice house not far from the valley of the kings. It was expensive But this was the heyday of the british empire and you know, he was a wealthy aristocrat then came the dreaded world war one Well, and

Kara Goodwin: can I ask a quick question?

Yeah is um is So the pyramids at this time, during this exploration, they're just dormant or are there like local Egyptians who, who are using them or are they just kind of out in the desert and nobody is interacting with them?

Mark Anthony: Oh well the pyramids, um, archeologists were, were studying them there. There's Egyptologists who are interested in different [00:15:00] aspects of Egyptology, and there's a group of Egyptologists who've always been working, you know, since the last 150 years or so.

Um, at the Giza Plateau, but the Valley of the Kings is 300 miles south of that. And the Valley of the Kings, that was the new kingdom. Okay. The, the pyramids were constructed at least 12 to 1300 years before Tutankhamen and 2, 500 years before Cleopatra. Right, right, right. Okay. So at the Valley of the Kings, um, Um, Carter is is looking, looking, looking.

He's got this huge team. World War One breaks out. Um, they had to stop excavations for a while because, you know, the, uh, um, you know, the war was going on and Egypt was was one of the areas where battles were happening. Luckily, none of them happened near the pyramids or or the Valley of the Kings. Long story short, it's now 1922.[00:16:00]

Lord Carnarvon's in financial difficulties because all the British aristocrats took a huge hit because of World War I. He want, he's pulling funding. Carter begs him one more season, one more season, and reluctantly Lord Carnarvon agrees.

Carter was not an easy man. At age 48, he was a confirmed bachelor, whatever that meant in 1922. A lot of speculation about his personal life, um, but he was a very quirky and eccentric genius. He had an obsessive personality. He was absolutely brilliant, but he never had a college degree. He started in Egypt as a teenager working on tombs and drawing.

He was an artist drawing pictures of tombs, learned how to read hieroglyphs, learned everything from on the job experience, working with people like Sir [00:17:00] Flinders Petrie and Theodore Davis, and some of the greatest Egyptologists of all time. And He was rude and abrupt to people that he considered ignorant.

He hated stupid questions. I mean, he was just, he was not easy to be around and he lived in this house, not far from the Valley of the Kings. And his staff, his Egyptian staff, they were used to him being short and rude and curt. And so it's November 4th, 1922. Carter knows he's running out of funds. The, the excavation season is, is coming to a close.

And about two weeks before, he'd been at a bazaar in, um, in Cairo, and he bought this canary. And he had this golden cage and this little yellow canary, and he used to calm him down. He would sit there and listen to the canary chirp and sing to him as an [00:18:00] Egyptian staff liked it. And he named the canary Bulldog.

And one of the Egyptian, his Egyptian butlers said, It is now the mascot of the expedition and they started calling the the expedition of the golden bird and he said inshallah, which means Allah God willing, um, this bird will bring us good luck and we will find a tomb filled with gold. So, Carter gets up on November 4th, 1922, the birds, you know, singing to him and he drives out to the Valley of the expedition.

And that meant one of two things. Either somebody had been killed, maybe by a cobra bite, or they found something. And the foreman ran up to him and said, You have to see this. There was a step, a stone step in the [00:19:00] sand. And they began to uncover it and there was another step in another and 16 steps led down to a passageway Feverishly the team cleared it away.

And then they came to a doorway and carter's heart almost Stopped. It was a perfectly sealed tomb that had never been found before in the Valley of the Kings because all the other tombs have been plundered. So all the doors have been flung open and Carter was examining the cartouches. It was the name Tutankhamen.

He knew it. He found it. Couldn't believe it. Meanwhile, according to legend Right about the same time back at his house his egyptian staff heard this horrible shrieking sound and they ran into the parlor where the Canary's [00:20:00] golden cage was and a cobra had gotten into the canary's cage and devoured the The canary.

Now the Egyptian staff, they were Muslims and not supposed to believe in things like this, but there are also Egyptian and they knew that was yet was the Cobra goddess of ancient Egypt, who was the protector of the Pharaohs. And this was a very evil omen.

Kara Goodwin: Wow. Oh my goodness. See guys, this is why. This is, I think, where we left off when we were like, we should record the episode.

And so we started talking about like, psychic mediumship. Um, oh my goodness. So this was the, First omen.

Mark Anthony: This was the first omen. So Lord, um, so Howard Carter, two days later sent a telegram [00:21:00] to, to Lord Carnarvon and let me read you what the telegram said. to Lord Carnobin from Howard Carter. Six November 1922 at last have made wonderful discovery in Valley, a magnificent tomb with seals intact, recovered same for your arrival.

In other words, um, they they covered up, they sealed up the tomb and hired armed guards to to surround it. So Back in those days, you didn't just hop on a plane. You had to take a ship So lord carnavon and his daughter lady evelyn now for the downton abbey fans I think you know lady mary who was played by michelle dockery.

Everybody likes lady. Lady. Mary. She's tough and all that I'm, pretty sure they based lady mary's character on lady evelyn because when you look at pictures of her And and her personality so it took until november 26 and [00:22:00] then You Um, Lady Evelyn and Howard Carter arrive at, at the tomb. And after clearing the, the, um, opening the first door, there was a passageway that was about 30 feet long.

It took an entire day to, to clear all the debris. And then they came to a second door and it too was sealed. And I want to read you. What happened next and this is from the from howard carter's book the tomb of tootin common So bear with me for one second because I want this to be verbatim as to what happened there

Carter made a small hole in the upper left corner of the doorway And he inserted a candle to test the air and what happened cara is [00:23:00] air from the tomb came out. Nobody had ever breathed this air for 32 centuries. And it oddly carried the light scent of oil and perfume.

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Mark Anthony: Then Carter described what happened next.

For the moment, an eternity it must have seemed to the others standing by, I was struck dumb with amazement. And when Lord Carnarvon, unable to stand the suspense any longer, inquired anxiously, Can you see anything? It was all I could do to get out the words. wonderful things. Then Carnarvon and Lady Evelyn looked through the, the, um, hole in the door and they were flabbergasted.

Everywhere was the glimmer of gold. They saw [00:24:00] chariots, a throne, beds, furniture, jewelry, linens, model ships, alabaster lamps, game boards, chests, statues, food containers. They couldn't believe what they saw. So, um, to, to make things quicker, cause, cause when I give this lecture, normally it's a couple hours. Um, Howard Carter assembled the team of the best Egyptologists and he got the best photographer of the day.

Harry Burton got them all there. And then they had to wait until February until the, the team arrived. And in the meantime, Lord Carnarvon was just loving, um, loving all the, uh, uh, Publicity he was getting and this became the biggest news story in the world reporters from everywhere flocked And carter couldn't stand them and their stupid questions.

He hated the way they were calling toot and commenting king tut It was [00:25:00] like oh abomination, you know and and um And but see carnavan loved the attention and he loved the media and he was real savvy with the media and so until until lord carnavan Who was having some financial difficulties, sold the exclusive rights to the tomb story, to the times of London, and in a flash, he cut out all the other media outlets worldwide.

Now the media was really ticked, but then. And then came the lawsuits in December of 1922. The Egyptian government was trying to seize possession of the tomb. And so now there's legal battles. The media is having a field day. They're all angry, but then they actually opened the tomb in February of, of 1923.

And some fabulous things started coming out. Well, [00:26:00] the reporters that were denied access, they found their angle. An unscrupulous reporter was interviewing everybody connected to Carter and to, and found out the story about the Cobra, the symbol of the Egyptian Pharaohs, the protective goddess, Wajah, eating the tomb's mascot, the Cobra.

And so they printed a story that said in the tomb, they found a plaque which read death will slay with his wings. Whoever disturbs the rest of the Pharaoh. Well, it was total fake news. Okay. That, that never happened until. April,

April, um, hold on, hold on. April 5th of 1923, Lord Carnarvon drops dead.

Kara Goodwin: Oh wow.

Mark Anthony: And he had, he was in a hotel in Cairo, and he had been shaving, and he cut a mosquito bite on his [00:27:00] face, and he got a blood infection, and he died. And supposedly at the same time in faraway Highclere Castle, his favorite dog let out a howl and collapsed dead.

And when he died in Cairo, all the lights in Cairo went out and flickered for a few moments before they were able to come back on. So now the newspaper reporters, they were thrilled because, okay, The curse of the pharaoh has struck down the benefactor of the expedition and look when he died even the lights in Cairo went out And but it gets even more intense because then there's the question the victims of the curse lord carnaubin's half brothers Mervyn herbert and aubrey herbert american tycoon george j gold British industrialist Joe Wolf all died shortly after visiting the tomb.

British Egyptologist Hugh [00:28:00] Evelyn White, who worked on the tomb, died by suicide. He left a note which said, I have succumbed to a curse. After visiting the tomb, um, Prince Ali Kamal of the Egyptian royal family, um, Prince Ali Kamal Fahmy Bey was shot to death by his wife of five months at London's Savoy Hotel.

Then Carter's personal secretary and the first person to enter the tomb behind him was found smothered to death at his London's men club in 1929. And then Bethel's father, Lord Westbury, Plunged seven floors to his death from his St. James apartment in London, where reportedly artifacts from the tomb were kept.

He left an alleged suicide note, which read, I can't stand any more horrors. During his funeral, the hearse ran over and killed an eight year old [00:29:00] boy.

Kara Goodwin: Oh my gosh.

Mark Anthony: People were dying, but newspapers about Tut's curse were flying off the shelf. I mean, the stories just kept going on and on. And the thing is, um, yeah.

By 1929, according to the UK Express, 22 people connected to Tutankhamen's tomb had died.

Kara Goodwin: Oh, my goodness. Now, can I ask one clarifying question real quick? So when you said the media got upset and they, they reported this because they found out about the Cobra and then they reported that there was the, the warning in the tomb, but, but that was fake news. Yeah, there was no warning.

Mark Anthony: There was no warning.

Kara Goodwin: Totally made that up. And yet

Mark Anthony: Well, we live in an era where reporters make things up there was a time and I'm not getting political but as an [00:30:00] attorney When the fairness doctrine in the equal time provision where the law of the land you had reporters Like, um, Walter Cronkite, Eric Severide. And if, if one position were stated, then they had to have somebody to, to, um, posing position.

Yeah. That point counterpoint and everything was very fair and it had to be documented. But what happened here was all the reporters were cut out of the stories. I mean, they could take pictures of things being taken out of the tomb, but they, they weren't, uh, allowed to interview Carter or Lord. Or, you know, carnaval wasn't around very long, but, uh, lady Evelyn was, and some of the other, um, archeologists, uh, working on the tomb.

So they were cut out of it entirely. And they were furious. They were, they were furious. And so they made up the curse of the tomb because they heard about the Cobra eating the mascot of, of the tomb. And then when Lord Carnarvon dies unexpectedly, it's like, okay. Now it

Kara Goodwin: is [00:31:00] really interesting how it was like they made that up.

And yet. It was, there were, it seemed like there was a curse.

Mark Anthony: Oh, it gets even better.

Kara Goodwin: Oh, tell us.

Mark Anthony: Oh, yes. Now, the theories at the time, um, novelist Marie Corelli, um, she was like a, um, a romance novelist and, and kind of, I mean, with all due respect, she wrote the trashy novels at the time. She said that the ancient Egyptians coated objects in the tomb with long lasting poisons, lethal microbes, and toxic spores.

And Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who was not only a psychic medium, but also the author of Sherlock Holmes, wrote that the ancient Egyptian priests had conjured elementals, who are non human spirits, to guard the tomb. Then there was another theory that the tomb's contents were coated with radioactive uranium by the ancient [00:32:00] Egyptians.

So these, um, now, now see all the reporters that weren't given access to the tomb. They are feeding on all these stories and pumping this out. Now, the science based theories, lung infections. Pneumonia, malaria, fever, and blood poisoning caused by mosquito bites, and possible inhalation of the aspergillus mold found on dead bodies and decaying grain stored in the tomb.

Okay? Also, there was no antibiotics available at this time. This was Egypt in the 1920s. Antibiotics were not available for another 20 years. In the United States at the time, the average lifespan was 45. So if you're working in a hot and tropical place loaded with mosquitoes and diseases Well, of course people are going to die Radioactivity sir archibald douglas reed who was an x ray technician actually did die [00:33:00] Of radiation poisoning after x raying the mummy of tutankhamen.

We haven't even gotten to the mummy and the treasures yet but the most intriguing Intriguing part of the curse the most The wickedest man in the world who was dubbed, um, this was how he was dubbed in the British press was a guy named Alistair Crawley. And he lived in England and he was a satanist and he dubbed himself the great beast 666 and he invented a cult based on the ancient egyptian gods And he believed that entering the tomb of tutankhamen Was, was an abomination, a violation of, of the ancient Egyptian gods.

Scotland Yard had their eye on him for quite some time. He was a suspected serial killer. He was obsessed with Jack [00:34:00] the Ripper. And he talked about getting revenge for the desecration of Tutankhamen's tomb. Six of the people who died After entering the tomb are linked to alistair crawley and that includes prince Al ali kamel fami bay, even though the prince was shot by his wife of five months Well, she'd been a prostitute and i'm sure the egyptian king and queen were thrilled when their son brought home a british Prostitute that you know, he met in london But the prostitute had supposedly been sexually involved with Alistair Crawley, and he had this sense, Fengali like manipulative abilities, and he got her to murder him in London.

Then Audrey Herbert, who was the half brother of Lord Carnarvon, I just returned from Egypt with blood poisoning and the surgery went wrong and the recently acquitted wife of Prince Ali, [00:35:00]um, Camille, she was actually, um, acquitted by a jury in London is suspected in tampering with his medical treatment.

Then Captain Richard Bethel, who was Carter's personal secretary, was smothered at his London's men's club, where Crawley was a member. Crawley was also known to, to play both sides of the fence sexually. He was a bisexual philanderer, and a known drug user, and possible schizophrenic. Lord Westbury, Captain Bethel's father who fell out of a seventh floor apartment and left a suicide note.

It's Crawley was seen in the area and it's believed that he actually threw Lord Westbury out out the window. Edgar Steele who handled tomb artifacts for the British Museum died after complications from minor surgery. Crawley suspected of interfering with his [00:36:00] medical treatment and then Sir Ernest Wallace Budge Carter's friend who had some of the artifacts from the tomb was found dead in bed And both budge and crawly were associates in the london occult scene So now we have a serial killer On top of these diseases and the so called curse of the tomb so six people out of the um, uh 22 That that died under mysterious circumstances are possibly linked You To a serial killer.

Kara Goodwin: Wow. Oh my gosh. It just keeps, it just keeps getting more layered and, and creepier.

Mark Anthony: It really does. It really does.

Kara Goodwin: Oh my goodness. Is Crawley. I'm trying to remember it. Does, does that name have something to do with Downton Abbey as well? Or was there Crawley? Oh, well,

Mark Anthony: no, there was somebody with a name like that.

And then if you're familiar with the Beatles, Sergeant [00:37:00] Pepper's cover, the iconic, where the four Beatles there, and there's all these people. Crawley's pictures on the top row on the left side.

Kara Goodwin: Oh,

Mark Anthony: yeah

Kara Goodwin: Oh my gosh

Mark Anthony: Yeah, I remember paul mccartney saying everyone said the rolling stones were the bad guys and we're the good guys He said we were just as bad as they were

Kara Goodwin: Oh

Mark Anthony: my i'm not saying that the beatles were involved with satanism.

It's just that Crawley has been a, um, a figure in the occult and mysticism scene in England, but, um, certainly very, very negative. And, um, anyway, just thought I'd bring that up, but

Kara Goodwin: wow, that's wild. So tell, what can you tell us about like the, the mummy and the artifacts that you kind of said? We haven't even gotten to that part yet.

We

Mark Anthony: haven't even gotten. So despite the tragedy of Lord Dying, uh, Howard Carter pressed forward and he didn't believe in superstitious tummy rot, as he said to the, uh, to, to the media. [00:38:00] And there were five chambers in the tomb, what they call the antechamber, the annex, uh, the burial chamber and, and the treasury.

And Eventually they got into the, the, um, the burial chamber and they found there was five shrines, um, the wooden and these wooden structures, like big wooden boxes, um, over the sarcophagus. And according to Howard Carter, this was the most challenging and difficult thing because They got in and they had like, you know, less than a foot worth of headroom and they had to very gingerly take these things apart.

So they, um, take the, the five shrines down and then they get to this giant quartz sarcophagus. And so, um, and, and the, the, uh, cover of it was immensely heavy and, and they had to develop these Elaborate pulleys and [00:39:00] winches to pull it off Then they see a coffin inside and when they tried to lift the coffin out it weighed it was like over 400 pounds I'm like, well, what's up with that?

And so they had to be very careful and they opened up that coffin and there was another coffin in there And then they opened up that coffin and then there was another coffin in there. But when they saw that coffin They were like, oh Dear god, it was solid gold

Kara Goodwin: Oh my gosh.

Mark Anthony: It, yeah, the, the innermost coffin was 243 pounds of solid gold.

It is so absolutely beautiful. It's one of the most amazing works of art in the world. And then when they opened that, they saw the mummy, but this linen all over it. And they gingerly removed the linen. And then it was like, [00:40:00] Oh my God. And there on the mummy was the iconic gold death mask of Tutankhamun, which is over 25 pounds of solid gold.

And it is the most iconic and recognizable symbol of ancient Egypt next to the Sphinx and the pyramids. I mean, think about it. When you think of ancient Egypt, you see pyramids and they show up. Um, uh, pictures of Tutankhamen's death mask. And that's also why people have the misconception that Tutankhamen, um, was a contemporary of the pyramids.

I mean, the pyramids were, were a good 12 centuries before Tutankhamen was ever born and, and, um, they just were, were flabbergasted unwrapping the mummy. Took, um, took days. I think it took, it took like over five days to unwrap the mummy. And, but they noticed something very touching. There were cornflowers [00:41:00] laid on, on the tombs.

And somebody loved this, this young man. They discovered examining the mummy. He was about 19 years old when he died. So evidence suggests Tutankhamen probably died in January or February. Mummification takes 70 days, especially for, for a king because they have to remove certain organs and then the body is desiccated in natron and, and dried out and preserved.

And but the cornflowers placed on his coffins were virtually intact. They were dried But they could tell that these were cornflowers and cornflowers are blue and they're really pretty So if tootin common died in january february and he was in tomb 70 days later This would be march and april which is when cornflowers are in bloom So that's how they figure, you know, I mean and this is going on the evidence which is presented Well unwrapping the mummy was was no easy feat And the ancient egyptian priests had [00:42:00] poured all these ungeons and and and potions On the mummy that acted like a glue and they actually had to section the mummy up This is just you know Makes me crazy when I hear this and I know it must have made howard carter even crazier To to have to section up the mummy to pry it.

Um, um out of the coffin. They tried everything They even put the gold coffin in the sun hoping that you know It would heat it up and maybe melt this stuff, and it didn't, and they brought in chemists and everybody to try to figure out how to dissolve this stuff. But when they unwrapped the mummy, they found over, um, they found 125 pieces of jewelry on the mummy.

And they're just breathtaking, breathtakingly, uh, beautiful amulets, um, golden vultures, because a vulture was, uh, the goddess neck bet. You always see on a Pharaoh's, um, you know, what they call the nemesis, you know, the, uh, triangular shaped headdress. There's wadjet, the Cobra [00:43:00] and neck bet the vulture wadjet, the Cobra spits poison.

So Pharaoh's enemies will be struck down by wadjet and neck bet fairy souls between our world and the other side So they looked at vultures and cobras much differently than we might you know We're like, oh vultures are nasty. The egyptians looked at them as very spiritual and um It was just amazing the pieces of jewelry that they found Even each one of his toes had little gold caps on them and the mummy was wearing Golden sandals But one of the most striking things that they found there were two daggers One was solid gold and the other was iron the egyptians didn't have iron they they traded for it from other countries But this iron dagger wasn't rusted.

Carter couldn't figure out how. Nobody could. [00:44:00] Until 2022, the dagger was subjected to metallurgical analysis. Okay, we're talking two years ago. And this iron had high amounts of cadmium, nickel, and troyalite. And this type of iron is not found on earth. It only comes from meteorites

Kara Goodwin: Wow,

Mark Anthony: so it gets even better Okay so the A an ancient document was found in the city called Amarna, which was in ancient Egypt describing a dagger given to Tutankhamen's grandfather as a wedding present And it was an iron dagger which matches the description of the one found on his mummy Now I know a lot of people.

Oh Tutankhamen's an alien. No, think about it In in the the king of the [00:45:00] matani would be in what is now iraq a chunk of iron from heaven falls and hits the earth It's a gift from the gods and anything made from that would be fit a gift fit for a pharaoh So what better wedding present for a pharaoh?

Than an an iron dagger made from the the metals of the gods

Kara Goodwin: Wow. You know, it, it does bring up, and I don't want to take you off track, but when you talk about this, you know, being non earthly material that, that has come and landed from the, you know, for the gods, from the gods, um, it does make me think of the pharaohs that they've, they've, the ones with the elongated skulls and, but King Tut was not.

One of those right

Mark Anthony: there are artistic depictions of him like that and of his Sisters Let me tell you in in my regular [00:46:00] lecture on this I get into his dynasty because that's a whole That's a whole nother thing And I know there's a lot of people saying well, they're aliens. It's like no they weren't

That era in history is called the Amarna era, and Tutankhamen's father was the most unusual pharaoh in Egyptian history, because for whatever reason, he decided to believe in one God. Uh, which was an aspect of the sun that he called the at 10 at the disk of the sun. And of course, the at 10 only could talk to him and his family and his depictions of his father, who was, um, Akhenaten, which means the joy of the sun.

Um, they had these elongated heads and all this. It is believed that we found his mummy, and he doesn't have an elongated head, neither do his daughters or Tutankhamun. We're not sure why, but this was an artistic, [00:47:00] um, expression, and, and, and, like, Egnoten is pictured with, like, female type breasts and large hips and a very, Female like physique whereas pharaohs are always the he man v shape muscle guys Um ignaten and and tutankhamen was also depicted that way from from statues found in his tomb And the question is why would a pharaoh?

Want himself depicted like that? There's all types of theories And examining tutankhamen's family the mummies that we have recovered It appears that you know, you got to realize that pharaohs You Um were considered gods on earth and gods can only marry gods So they were marrying their sisters their first cousins and tutankhamun was the byproduct of generations of inbreeding examination of his mummy shows all types of genetic defects Uh, it appears he had clubfoot scoliosis [00:48:00] Coler's disease, navascular bone necrosis, causing poor blood supply, Klinfelter syndrome.

It's a genetic condition of males who have an extra X chromosome, which could account for the highly feminine characteristics. Evidence he suffered from pneumonia and malaria. He had, um, the gene for sickle cell anemia in his body. He suffered from Frolich syndrome, which is an endocrine disorder that affects males caused by lesions in the hypothalamus.

And he had a severe bone fracture of his left leg. And that may be what caused his death because there were no signs of healing. So it looks like there was a bone fracture. Which could have led to blood poisoning and that that how he died and So he inherited all these conditions or a lot of them And his father appears to have had these as well.

It also appears [00:49:00] that temporal lobe epilepsy Ran in this family and temporal lobe epilepsy Is when you see bright lights, it will spark hallucinations oftentimes of a religious nature. So we have his father who believes the son is the one God that only talks to him. Okay. And, and you start putting the pieces together here and he's starting to see this and I know I'm, I'm, I'm getting ahead of myself and I don't want to get too off track on that.

But there was a lot that led up to toot and common. Um, So i'll stop here and wait for your next question

Kara Goodwin: yeah, well and that plays into it as well because didn't his father's belief in One god which was controversial at the time very

Mark Anthony: very

Kara Goodwin: Did that play into? toot and common Am I saying that right? I always say yeah.

Yeah.

Mark Anthony: Steve Cummins. Yeah. You got it. Um,

Kara Goodwin: and [00:50:00] into him becoming the Pharaoh. And wasn't there something to do with the grandfather as well in there too?

Mark Anthony: Oh yeah. Okay.

Kara Goodwin: Do you wanna take it in this direction, ? We don't have to. If there's better stuff that we're gonna, like,

Mark Anthony: I found that interesting. Well, it, it, it's, it's all really good stuff.

Um.

Let me go back in time to Tutankhamen's great grandfather. He was a young Egyptian prince. Who was not in line for the throne and he was visiting the great sphinx Okay. Now the great sphinx was ancient by this time and the sphinx was buried up to its Neck in the sand and according to legend He had some type of either fell asleep Went unconscious and had some type of vision That the sphinx came to him in the form of the sun [00:51:00] god and said if you remove the sand from my body I Will grant you the throne of egypt.

So this prince brought in Presumably slaves and they cleared away all the sand from the great sphinx and within six months he becomes pharaoh Now, how did that happen? He wasn't even in line for the throne And that meant his older brother and maybe other people had to die for this to happen and he emerges as pharaoh thutmose The fourth interestingly enough.

It was howard carter who discovered the tomb of thutmose the fourth. Okay, so, you know All this. All right. So thutmose the fourth if he had temporal lobe epilepsy could that have triggered this vision? Or the the sphinx in the form of the god of the sun comes and talks to him He called it a dream well between the paws of the great sphinx.

There's this what's called a stele [00:52:00] It's a huge stone tablet, which was erected by thutmose Okay. Now remember the sphinx is several thousand years old by this time and thutmose has the stele erected Which tells the story? Of him having this dream, which, um, which the, uh, the Sphinx says, I'll make you Pharaoh.

If you basically clean the sand away from me. Okay. Well,

this particular Pharaoh became obsessed with dreams and dream interpretation, and he had a grand viseer. Okay. So he erects this Stele that tells about the dream. We all know the biblical story of the prophet joseph or maybe I mean some people don't they um prophet joseph He was a hebrew and he was sold into slavery by his brothers [00:53:00] Okay and he was brought to egypt and He was working for lord potiphar and supposedly lord potiphar's wife tried to seduce him.

He ends up in prison All right. And in prison, he begins interpreting dreams of other inmates, um, some of which were the pharaoh's servants. Meanwhile, the pharaoh of Egypt is plagued with these dreams, a reoccurring dream, where seven hefty cows emerged from the Nile River, only to be devoured by seven scrawny cows.

Seven plump ears of corn emerge to be devoured by seven scrawny ears of corn and none of the mystics or priests of Egypt could interpret this. Well, Pharaoh hears that there's a Hebrew in his prison that has the gift of discernment and prophecy. So they bring Joseph in front of him and he says, There will be seven years of plenty followed by seven years of famine.

Now we all had to learn that story in Sunday school and [00:54:00] in, in, in religion class, um, you know, Jewish and, and, and Christian people. You remember that story about that? Well, Joseph in Egypt would have had an Egyptian name, which would be translated as Yusuf of Yahweh, Yuya. Okay, and it just so happens that Thutmose IV had a grand vizier by the name of Yuya, and the parallels between Joseph and Yuya are striking.

Joseph was a foreigner from Egypt, according to Genesis. Yuya, whose mummy has been found, was a foreigner of Semitic origin. In other words, Jewish. Um, Joseph was embalmed and put in a coffin. Yuya's body has been discovered. Joseph married the daughter of a high priest. Yuya married an Egyptian noblewoman, Tuya.

Joseph was in charge of food storage, Yuya was in charge of food storage and food [00:55:00]production in Egypt, Joseph was advisor to Pharaoh, Yuya was the governor and vizier second only to Pharaoh, Pharaoh gave Joseph a ring, a gold chain, and a chariot. In Yuya's tomb, they found a gold ring, a, a, um, gold chain, and a chariot, and it gets even better.

Now, the hole in the story, though, is in Exodus 13, where the Moses and the Hebrews took the bones of the prophet Joseph with them when they left Egypt. However, going back to Genesis, Joseph was given the title in Genesis as father of Pharaoh, lord of his entire household and ruler of all Egypt, second only to Pharaoh.

Yuya, his title was the holy father of the lord of two lands. The lord of two lands is Pharaoh. He raised, uh, one of the pharaohs as his stepfather, making him father of pharaoh and Yuya's daughter married a pharaoh making him the [00:56:00] father in law of Tutankhamun's grandfather, Amenhotep III. Whoa! This could potentially, and I'm not saying that it is, you know, because there is, you know, supposedly the Hebrews took the bones of Joseph during Exodus, but the parallels between Yuya, a documented, known, historical figure that we actually have his body, and the prophet Joseph.

Get this Yuya's tomb is in the valley of the kings. That's how esteemed he was But there's no wall decorations Now, why is that if joseph? If you, you was Joseph and he was Hebrew, it is considered an abomination to make depictions of a God. That's why you don't see Jewish art with pictures of [00:57:00] God.

Interesting.

Kara Goodwin: And

Mark Anthony: if Thutmose the fourth, the possible good Pharaoh was obsessed with dreams. And it was Joseph who interpreted his dreams. So then you have Thutmose the fourth, then you have his son, Amenhotep the third pinnacle of Egyptian power. Ammonhotep also worshiped the sun. Now there, there were still all the Egyptian gods.

There are over 3000 gods in the Egyptian Pantheon, but now there was the rise of the Aten. Okay. A T E N. Which was one of the aspects of the god of the sun So from thutmose the fourth through his son amanhotep the third to then amanhotep's son, which was akhenaten The aten becomes the primary god What akhenaten does is he [00:58:00] Invalidates the ancient egyptian religion.

He disenfranchises the priesthood closes the temples confiscates all their money Look the priests were the scribes. They're the ones who ran the government Okay, so overnight and akhenaten basically bankrupts the religion the religious bureaucracy That's been running egypt for 2 000 years. They hate him.

Then he's this You doesn't believe in war, and he will not go to war when parts of the Egyptian empire are being invaded. So then when Akhenaten dies, his nine year old son Tutankhamen becomes pharaoh, and the first thing he does is restore the ancient religion to full power. And uh starts waging war now really a nine year old boy

Kara Goodwin: Nine year old

Mark Anthony: boy, and it just so happens that the grand vizier of tootin common Was um, his name is i a [00:59:00] y And he just happened to be the high priest of the ancient religion.

He was like this All right. So now the pieces start adding up and Tootin common is married to his half sister Anka cinnamon, which is a couple years older than him And then he mysteriously dies at age 19.

And it appears that this fracture in his left leg was the cause of death. Strangely, his mummy had no heart. The Egyptians believed that the heart was the most important organ. They would remove it, especially wrap it up and put it back in other organs. They would put in what's known as canopic jars, these beautiful alabaster jars.

The heart was like, like the brain, the center of the soul. But Tutankhamen's mummy has no heart. Now, why is that? And that's what we can't figure out. Did he die [01:00:00] in battle? Did he die in some trauma? Was this done by the priests of the old religion to to discredit and defame his dynasty? Why is that? Now it gets even weirder.

Tutankhamen's widow, Anka Sanamen, here she is maybe 22, 23 years old

and We found in the royal archives of Amarna, the city that Akhenaten built to the sun, okay? the royal archives We have copies of letters she wrote to the king of the Hittites. The Hittites lived in what is now Turkey. As fate would have it, their capital city, Hattusa, was excavated and their royal archives were found with copies of the same letter.[01:01:00]

A queen of Egypt wrote to the king of the Hittites and said, My husband has died, I have no son. Send me one of your sons that he will become my husband and king of Egypt. The king of the Hittites basically writes back. Yeah, I don't believe it. She writes again Why would I say something of such shame to you?

My husband has died. I have no son I will not take a subject as my husband. I am afraid I am afraid? A queen of Egypt? Afraid of what? Well, not long after this, the Grand Vizier Ai, old enough to be her grandfather, marries her. A subject. He was her subject. He becomes pharaoh. She disappears from history. No tomb.

Even in Ai's tomb, [01:02:00] and he only reigned for about four years, but he had this big elaborate tomb. Oh, by the way, Tutankhamen's tomb was the smallest in the Valley of the Kings. Ai's tomb is, is much, much bigger. He mentions his other two wives in his tomb, but not Anka Sanamen. She disappears. Then, In Tutankhamun's tomb, two fetuses, two mummified fetuses were found.

Both little girls, one died in gestation, one shortly after childbirth. DNA analysis indicates 99. 9 percent probability Tutankhamun was their father. What happened? Why were they there? What happened to his wife?

Now, the king of the Hittites did send one of his sons, but on the way to Egypt, the royal entourage was ambushed And the prince was murdered [01:03:00] touches off a 20 year war between the Hittite empire and the Egyptian empire. And in the meantime, Anka Sonamin is forced to marry this, this, um, grand vizier old enough to be her grandfather.

And then after four years, he dies. And his successor was a general Horemheb. And the first thing Horemheb did. is is have the city at Naughton built the city of the sun where we found the royal archives raised to the ground. He has the memories of Akhenaten, Tutankhamen, I, and obliterated. Why?

Kara Goodwin: Wow. Oh my goodness.

It is so multi layered. And messy and provocative.

Mark Anthony: It really is. And [01:04:00] I realized, you know, we're covering a lot here today and I'm just giving you a taste of, of, of, of the information that's out there on, on the flip side of the coin, let's do something happy for a moment. Um, the discovery of Tutankhamen's tomb changed everything.

The whole art deco movement was influenced by Tutankhamen. Oh, no way. This, um, this right here. Is a piece of artwork that I found at an antique store from the art deco movement. As you can see, it's an Egyptian woman. This was made in France by a company called Vantines and it's an incense burner, incense holder.

Um, and as you can see, she's Egyptian. Egyptian, but also you get the, the beautiful art deco lines. Look at the Chrysler building in New York city that was influenced by Egyptian design. If you go to the art deco district of South beach, Miami, and I recommend, you know, go there. It is so beautiful. In [01:05:00] fact, if you go to the, I think it's the public library or the town hall.

Um, they have walking tours. It costs like four or 5 a person. And they have a docent will take you through the art deco district and you will see the profound Egyptian influence. It affected artwork. It affected movies, the mummy with Boris Karloff. Um, it affected jewelry, design, everything, the whole flapper era, the 1920s.

And you see the women's costumes. Those were all influenced by artwork discovered in the tomb of Tutankhamen. Um, So, so, um, what's really fascinating. Is it appears to me and my theory is that Tutankhamen was murdered is that um He he was very physically ill. He was sickly This is not the type of pharaoh that the military wanted to follow The priesthood of the ancient religion hated him hated his family.

They were sick of them They wanted him out of [01:06:00] the way Uh, perhaps a convenient accident. Um, maybe a chariot accident. I mean, come on, what teenage pharaoh could resist writing in this most souped up? Um, uh created the day and six chariots were found in Tutankhamen's tomb Uh, two of them were solid gold and the others were they could use for daily living War and in the circumstances in the wake of his death, his entire dynasty disappears, his wife disappears, the Grand Vizier becomes her husband, and then he's wiped out of the way by Horemheb.

Now, was Horemheb trying to cover his tracks? Was he complicit in the conspiracy? Um, one we may never know, but the Egyptians did believe that to speak the name of the dead, Is to make him live again. Now, who remembers the names I and Horam had the very possible conspirators, but the name Tutankhamun lives on throughout [01:07:00] the centuries, and perhaps he has attained the immortality.

So desired by the Egyptians. And in that sense, justice has been done.

Kara Goodwin: Oh, that's fantastic. Mark, that's amazing. Thank you so much. I am just blown away and I've, I've learned so much. I had no idea. And we, and a lot of people who are interested in psychic work and spiritual work. Feel a connection with ancient Egypt and so forth.

So thank you so much. Um, as we wrap up here, tell people what's coming down the pipeline for you. How can people get more Mark?

Mark Anthony: Well, I, I, every Thursday I have a live stream show. It's called the psychic and the doc. My co host is Dr. Pat Bacilli. She's been the host of the Dr. [01:08:00] Pat show for over 20 years. And she founded the Transformation Network and people can call in.

I do many readings in conjunction with Dr. Pat helps people understand the full impact. It's, it's a very healing. It's a fun show too. We've got some great guests on and that's every Thursday at 4 p. m. Pacific, 7 p. m. Uh, Eastern, all times in between. But to find out about everything I'm doing, because.

schedule, I'm going to be at the Sedona Ascension retreat. And if you go to my website, if you want to go there, um, it'll show you how to get a, um, um, a 10 percent discount on tickets, but I'm going to be speaking there. I'm going to be speaking at the new living expo at the Edgar Casey association at the international association for near death studies, their annual, their 50th anniversary.

Um, and in Chicago in September and I'm scheduled also, I believe in September at the Omega Institute. So I have a whole whole us tour coming up and other dates [01:09:00] are being added. So I invite everyone to visit my website and kindly sign up for my newsletter and that'll keep you up to date on everything I'm doing, how to find out about readings with me.

And I do lectures on not just on ancient mysteries, but also the science of spirit communication. Healing grief with help from the other side and many other topics as well and when I do my presentations are normally accompanied by very colorful powerpoint presentations, but Kara, I want to thank you for letting me share one of my passions with your audience and for everyone who's tuned in And everybody listening to this or watching this later.

Thank you so very much for tuning in

Kara Goodwin: Thank you so much, Mark. This has just been amazing and I will very likely see you at the Ascension Retreat again in Sedona in March. So, um, thank you so much. Thank you everybody for joining, uh, live and via the [01:10:00] recording and I'll see you next time. Many blessings, everybody.

Bye.