333. Achieving Inner Peace In Times Of Outer Chaos: A Framework From A Modern Mystic - Michael Massey

Kara Goodwin: [00:00:00] Welcome to the meditation conversation, the podcast to support your spiritual revolution. I'm your host, Kara Goodwin. And in this episode, I'm so delighted to welcome back longtime friend of the show, Michael Massey. Michael's the resident modern mystic on the podcast. And in this episode, he talks about the great uptick in humanity's consciousness that he's witnessing at this time.

We talk about how this is showing up and what it means for the future. And we'll get right into that in just a sec. I just want to quickly mention something I'm really excited about.

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Michael Massey: It certainly 

has. 

Kara Goodwin: It's so 

good to be with

Michael Massey: it must have been about late. I know, it seems at least six months, I think. Has it been 

that long? 

Kara Goodwin: that can't be right, but

Maybe.

time is like nuts right now. It's goes so fast. 

So 

have I

not, I don't think I've had you on since episode 300 [00:02:00] and I know this week I released like

over three 30. So 

yeah, that's 

Michael Massey: Wow, you've been busy. 

Kara Goodwin: know it's been wild.

Michael Massey: Crazy. I know. So 

what's been going 

Kara Goodwin: oh my gosh, just, it's just nonstop. It's, but all great. it just feels like everything's +accelerated and I don't know, but I got to see you not very long ago in Sedona.

Michael Massey: that's right. You're out 

here in Sedona. And for the Sedona

Awakening Conference, was that? 

Kara Goodwin: Sedona 

Ascension retreat. 

Michael Massey: Ascension 

Conference. 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Yeah. And that was amazing. 

Michael Massey: It was, we got to spend some good time together here in Sedona. And I, had I just arrived back in Sedona perhaps when last 

time when we recorded 

300? 

Kara Goodwin: I think so. I think you were in Sedona by then.

Michael Massey: Okay, it's good to be 

back here. 

Kara Goodwin: I 

Michael Massey: And, yeah. And we had a good 

time [00:03:00] together for sure. 

Kara Goodwin: And so we thought today we would just do a little bit of the state of things. And, as we're recording this, it's the end of March 2024. 

And 

Michael Massey: Mm hmm. 

Kara Goodwin: how have, how's the year been going? What are you picking up on? And what do you see for. The near future.

Michael Massey: Okay. you said the key word. I think you did. You say accelerating. Everything's are 

Kara Goodwin: yeah, it feels that 

way. 

Michael Massey: Yeah, it definitely does. Certainly time is a sense of things. Part of that. of course, just getting older, as they say, the older that we get, the quicker time moves until, at the end. It all, the whole lifetime is just a 

flash, right? And it's all over so quickly, by the time we reach the end. And it certainly just, it, it's amazing, as we progress along this path. Now, [00:04:00] there's this year itself, so it can be marked like things, it's just a complete uptick in terms of the cycles. It seems like things that used to take a year, take a month, things that used to take,a month, take a week, or, a day.

And, so I've been experiencing that in a very delightful way through the course of 2024. Now, for those who have tuned in along the way, last, the last two years we've talked about, some gates opening and that we're accelerating the cycle and layering in a new operating system for humanity, which,I was calling the Trinity based operating system, but the movement or the evolution we as a species are going through in terms of our own consciousness.

Which is graduating as a species like from being [00:05:00] two 

to three. 

Kara Goodwin: Mm hmm. 

Michael Massey: And, this is really the evolution out of duality into looking at, being able to look at things in a non dualistic fashion.and this operating system which, has fully, The doors opened for it in 2022, it layered itself in into 2023, and then this year in 2024 has just been operating and adjusting to this new operating system.

And it's a substantial upgrade. And,personally, and as I've been going Through this, it's almost waking up in a very natural way, that childlike wonder of [00:06:00] experiencing each day and the world around me. In terms of looking at things with fresh eyes. And when we have fresh eyes, because we're having a new experience of the same things.

that we might have been having, but being able to see them in a new way, it makes for a really just a delightful experience of not know, of, yeah, not knowing, but having a positive expectation of what one might encounter on a 

day to day basis. 

So that's what, that's what I've been experiencing here in Sedona, and then I'm witnessing this, it, in my network of the people that I interact with, across the country is in their own way that they're all experiencing, an uptick as well with various [00:07:00] different levels of awareness of what's 

actually happening. 

Kara Goodwin: Mm. Well, it's interesting because you talk about, that you're noticing things that, maybe used to take a year, take a month and so forth. do you have any specific examples to help people to that a little bit better from your perspective? Mm hmm.

Michael Massey: this is where

It fits into the principle of synchronicity. And where, under the old model, if you wanted anything, then you efforted. You had to, put in the effort for it. This will always be true. It's always important that we take our own steps. The whole universe isn't going to do everything for us if we're 

not participating. 

Kara Goodwin: Um, 

Michael Massey: but, this, This, this difference from, a personal efforting and under the new model, your priority is, or the [00:08:00] priority is the alignment with the universe and then allowing that universal energy to help with the manifestation of physical reality. And so the closer that we are to our own core alignment, And the truth and authenticity of who we are, then the less effort that it requires in terms of overall energy.

And as, and the more that we're working with the whole universe, then it accelerates that, that manifestation, thus reducing the time and the energy required from a personal standpoint in order to bring about a desired result. And this can totally just be in the, the common mundane things of life.

Finding a job and, or, work or a manifestation of, whatever creative project that one has, is engaged with is that the components of that actually coming in very quickly. And it certainly did the case for me. And, just [00:09:00] even my own return back into Sedona and what lined up for me in terms of, of Incom is It's just astounding the way that it played out and it's the it's like The that closer that we get to send to center the whole universe starts rolling out the red carpet for us

Kara Goodwin: yeah, you made me think of an example in my world,I'm, leading a course right now on sacred geometry and it's a three part course and after lesson one. I had so many people who were like, I'm seeing the geometries in the clouds. I'm seeing the geometries in my dreams. I'm seeing it,in my mind's eye when I meditate and I'm like blown away that it's happening so

fast 

because. 

Michael Massey: you 

go. That's a 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. I can't remember

myself when I started engaging with Sacred Geometry, how long it took for that stuff to happen, but I don't think it was in a [00:10:00] week. I, and like I say, I can't remember if it was that fast, but I'm blown away that it's happening that quickly. So,

Mm hmm

Michael Massey: there's something, there's a principle, also what we call, 

planting seeds. When we're interacting with people, we plant seeds. You're talking about this. I'm just using a little bit different language because it's something that I've noticed also. And then, so you plant a seed, maybe you water it a little bit, but it's got to have time and it'll sprout someday.

And then someone, all of a sudden, the, say the person, they're upon which that seed was planted has a breakthrough or epiphany that might have been from a seed that was planted two years ago, but it finally it popped out of the subconscious into the conscious 

mind, right? 

And now one of the things when I'm, I've been doing this for enough years to, track the length of time that it takes between the seed plant and the [00:11:00] sprout.

and this is where,the, or the acceleration comes back into play is that what, yeah, what wants to, it could take a year or two, now it's just weeks or months, if that, and now you're experiencing what sounds like,your plant, your seeder, and. And it's like you're throwing it in the most fertile soil or something and you're getting sprouts that are coming up within hours or 

days. 

Kara Goodwin: That's, I love that. And what's what strikes me so much with how you've worded that, Is that I'm preparing for again, going back to the sacred geometry course, but I'm preparing for the final course and as I'm doing so, because you can get. Really esoteric with sacred geometry. And so I'm, as I'm

planning it out, I'm like, how far do I take it away from just the, this is the shape and this is what happens in the physical reality and so forth to [00:12:00] like these, higher level esoteric teachings where it's like, I can't prove this. With science, for example, but you can prove it to

yourself. 

But I also know that I might, people might get confused. And so I keep coming back to that when I'm planning it, where I'm like, you may just have to plant seeds and let them know, this may not really make sense yet. 

But let me plant the

seed and 

then, and,

then especially

with this particular group, because they have been like just blowing me away.

So yeah.

Michael Massey: That's awesome. That's fantastic. And that's good to hear. And that's just exactly the kind of thing I was talking about in terms of the reports that I'm getting from people around. That are all describing a similar kind of phenomenon of Wow is 

It's how fast this works 

Kara Goodwin: Are there, [00:13:00] what other

things are you picking up?

I'm wondering about dreams, for example, or anything like that.

Michael Massey: of the things I've noticed is My dreamscape backgrounds are Not as fuzzy As they might as they used to be. I, it's hard to describe that, but yeah, but it's, it's kind of like,the dreams that might have a tendency to be like portrait mode on your phone where whatever's front and center, but the background is just kind of, and now lately though, it's like the whole scene is crystal clear, which is a,which is fascinating.

Kara Goodwin: so I in any upgrades to dreamscape is,Noteworthy. Yeah. 

Michael Massey: Noteworthy. Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: Hmm. 

Michael Massey: I [00:14:00] do notice and then in terms of the reports that I'm hearing from around people is the number of them reporting really potent spiritual dreams. Not that dreams are always spiritual, but they're,

when they get into apocalypse, yeah, apocalyptic type of dreams, et cetera, which is, all like good indicators in terms of where somebody is on at on their spiritual journey.

So it's not let those are generally speaking, or not necessarily, apocalyptic dreams aren't about, The collective, a collective necessarily into the world. Although what we are in is a bit of a collective into the world in that we have so many of us as a collective, we're transitioning from, one, one era to another, one age to another.

And so there is a ending of the old age and the [00:15:00] beginning of the new. And so in this time there it's natural that we have, we live in a time of the fulfillment of prophecies of everything that needed to be accomplished in, in, the, that prior phase or era must come to its completion for us to fully, move on to the next.

And as such, then this is what's percolating this apocalyptic type of,experience, or, thought systems, within 

the collective. Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: the old is burning and your Phoenix is rising.

Michael Massey: Exactly. Yeah. And, for those who haven't been through the death portal yet, that's pretty much how it goes. And it's like, oh no, no, no, oh no, I'm dying, oh no, oh, oh, oh. Wait a sec. [00:16:00] I'm still here. I'm still me. I still exist. I still alive. And,that's what it is. And it's like the, the, that which we are is, will continue to be. And,as a people, we're, like that as well. And the world that we thought we knew is, will no longer be. And, a whole new experience that we, is even beyond what we've imagined is springing forth. And that's pretty exciting.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. I'm curious. I believe that you've talked about the death portal in previous episodes. I know we've talked about it, but. I wonder how clear that is for somebody who's listening, because I'm guessing that there's a chance they'll think of a near death experience or something like 

that, 

Michael Massey: that's a, that's a, that's an example, or probably the best example of transitioning through the 

death portal, yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: but if you, [00:17:00] but is it necessary

Michael Massey: Is it necessary? Ultimately, no. 

what is passage through the death portal? Yes. is physically dying, required? No. That's the thing, is we can die to who we think we are and then be born again, as we truly are. And that's the spirit. It's not really a spiritual death, but it's an ego death, if you will, or a death, where we transition away from what we identify as and where we no longer identify as being the voice in our head, where the, where the observer or the witness to the voice in the head and it's significant in terms of that change.

this is a game changer. It changes everything.

Kara Goodwin: So if it's not a physical death, would it be like a dark night of the soul? 

Michael Massey: Dark Night of the Soul could be the catalyst that leads to this kind [00:18:00] of experience. for sure. and, Other than that, it's a step and a stage along the journey, so we all gotta cross it at some point. It's nothing that anybody can avoid.

Kara Goodwin: Well, I assume there are plenty of people who have avoided it because they,

I love the, 

Michael Massey: delay, that's not, it's not 

avoiding anything, that's just delaying it. 

Yeah, and then they will, and then what happens is the moment when they actually drop the body is that's when they'll cross through the death portal. But we can, this is the whole point of this is that we can go through it before then.

And not 

drop the body. Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: I just

often use that expression. I heard Richard Roar say it, but I think he was quoting somebody else. But, some people get older and wiser and some people just get older. So there are plenty of people on the planet, who are not, Who are avoiding that, 

Michael Massey: Yes. and, but they're [00:19:00] just, they can't avoid it. They're just delaying it. And, so yes, there are many seeds that are still plumped 

in the dirt. 

Kara Goodwin: Mm hmm. Mm 

Michael Massey: Yeah, and, but the way everything is going is what we're looking forward to is there is a coming, event, if you will, where we hit that hundredth monkey kind of thing.

it's that. And we tend to see this each, we're in the time of spring, right? where you might see a few flowers or a couple trees that start to flower. But coming up here, sometime in the next, three weeks or so, there's gonna be that day where all of a sudden it goes 

POW! 

Kara Goodwin: hmm. 

Michael Massey: And, all of a sudden there's phew!

And it's like, all the, everything just flowered overnight. And it happens so fast when it comes. And, that's kind of the thing that's going to happen, or, that we foresee happening here with humanity, is that there's the, the, the [00:20:00] initial awakenings, the early arrivers, etc. then there, there's a trickle more, and then all of a sudden, 

boom. 

Kara Goodwin: hmm. 

Michael Massey: Yeah.

And then there'll be sprouts coming out all over the place. And, oh, what a day. I rejoice in that'll 

be. 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. 

do you have any sense of timing on that? Mm hmm. 

Mm 

Michael Massey: Uh, no. And we're to start the more we talk about the absolute and it's more, it's impossible to know the timing on that and accept that it just, it's getting closer and closer and closer. And so it, that's one of the things that's changed for me. pretty significantly within the last six months is that this event is in my sphere of awareness, conscious awareness that I, at pretty much all 

times, and so it's, and it's drawing near, so within my spherical awareness, it's like a, it's encroaching [00:21:00] in its orbit.

and other people are seeing it too, and more and more people starting to talk about an event that's coming. And, none of us knows for sure what it's going to look like. but we are getting glimpses of it in our own ways, of what it, of what it's about.

Kara Goodwin: what can you share about that?

Michael Massey: it's a singularity event that's significant enough that it becomes a new, marker in time. So we just, we basically reset the calendar so that there is before this event, and then after this event. It's that significant. Now, if you think about what it would take in terms of a global event for us to actually reset the calendar, it's 

that significant. 

Kara Goodwin: Do you have any indicators or pointers to sort of,it sounds like it will [00:22:00] be really obvious as it's happening. Do you have 

any, like 

Michael Massey: this is, I want to speak to once, when I say it enters my mind, my awareness. So it's entered my awareness as me, Michael Massey, from what is going to happen in 

my lifetime. 

Kara Goodwin: hmm. Okay. 

Michael Massey: you asked about timing. So it, whatever is gonna happen, it's gonna happen within my 

lifetime. And other, it's popping out into other people's awareness.

And I'm able to at least to discern the which sphere, which fears because I can go into a greater version of myself where everything has always happened, but that's not what I'm talking about. That's in terms of its proximity. It's near. And if we're talking about the next 50 years or more, it's still that's cosmically speaking, that's very, very near.

And I don't think it's going to take that long.

Kara Goodwin: So what would be some, I know you've mentioned like the Trinity consciousness where it's no longer [00:23:00] dual, are there other things that you pick up on that would be like a difference for the way that we experience life? 

Michael Massey: Imagine there's going to be an upgrade, there's an upgrade to your basic five senses.you can think, we see a certain spectrum of color. So we're talking about an enhancement of say visual acuity to be able to see more of the spectrum. And,it's almost like moving from a,up to a higher def.

vision. But,the sensory, inputs from taste, smell and touch, all of that enhanced. So that's one way that, that this is all manifesting and it's, leads to a complete renewed joy in experiencing life here on this planet.

Kara Goodwin: Wow. [00:24:00] Bring it.

Michael Massey: I know, right?

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Love

Michael Massey: Yeah, we, 

we continuously upgrade our technology. Yeah, and, now it's, experiencing, the upgrades to, the really the most advanced form of technology that exists on the planet, which is this human body we're walking around in.

Kara Goodwin: Right. The human technology. So tell us what you're working on. What's going on in Michael's world.

Michael Massey: it seems like we're at this really important period of time. And I've been asked a few times over the years if I would write a book or something like that. and so what I've done is, I've assembled the last probably 12 years of my journey intoa new program that I'm putting together and it will,be [00:25:00] released in a book form and what I'm doing is trying to distill, everything that I've experienced down into a framework for, really for, achieving peace of mind.

And, when you were out here in Sedona, and one of the questions with the gals you were out here with too, and it was just a lovely group, and we were talking a bit about the difference kind of between awakening and enlightenment, right? How do you tell the difference? And now this might surprise you, but I'm going to turn to, the wisdom of Yoda.

Kara Goodwin: Okay.

Michael Massey: And, and when he says, you'll know, when you're calm and at peace. And this is one of the things that is, we're actually naturally tend to draw to, [00:26:00] but it's, the people in a room of who's at peace. And who is quiet, who has a quiet still mind. And that becomes, is probably our maybe strongest indicator.

And so what I'm doing is assembling this framework for achieving true peace of mind.

That's my gift to the rest of humanity, is to share what I've learned. because it's a doozy of a journey. to navigate through the mind.

Kara Goodwin: That's beautiful. 

Michael Massey: So I'm excited. Yeah, I'm excited to share this. This is just my piece of the equation. It's not everything, but I hope to give it to you all, and in the hopes that it'll help everyone to find their piece and then contribute that to the whole.

Kara Goodwin: wonderful. That's amazing. Oh, this has just been great. I'm so excited to catch up with [00:27:00] you and I'm excited about the work that it's coming down the pipeline from you and what's coming for humanity. It's all beautiful and exciting, so 

thanks for coming on today, 

Michael Massey: and I, and I, 

Yes, I, thank you for having me, and for everyone out there, yes, the veils are thinning, and be alert. And be aware of what's happening around you, because the magic is 

all around. 

Kara Goodwin: Hmm. Well said.