354. The Awakened Way: Embracing Divine Guidance - Suzanne Giesemann

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Kara Goodwin: Welcome to the meditation conversation, the podcast to support your spiritual revolution. I'm your host, Cara Goodwin. And this is a big, big episode. What a dream it is to have Suzanne Gusman. As today's guest. Suzanne is a powerhouse as a spiritual teacher and medium.

And in my humble opinion, she is quite magical. 

Her appearance on this podcast is proof of that. And you'll hear me share about the amazing way this all came about at the start of the interview. Suzanne Gatesman is a spiritual teacher, author, and medium recognized on the Watkins 2022 list of the most spiritually influential living people.

Commander and aid to the chairman of the joint chiefs. She is a member of She is a member of the visionary evolutionary leaders. visionary evolutionary leaders circle. Suzanne shares the awakened way, a path to living a consciously connected and divinely guided life. And [00:01:00] created the bless me method of connecting to higher consciousness and the sip of the divine meditation. And we'll talk about these during our episode. Her gift of multi-dimensional, communication has been verified by noted after life researchers. Her messages bring not only hope, but healing and love that goes straight to the heart. And I hope that through this episode, a strengthening of your own connection to your spirit Suzanne's book. 

The awakened way is full of inspiration and practical advice for connecting with your spirit team. And you'll feel yourself shifting into that perspective, through what Suzanne shares and the light she emanates. check out Kara goodwin.com. Where you can get a free 10 minute meditation. And if you want support for your meditation practice, I have a 21 day online program to help you develop your own practice. And there's also the healing hearth membership, where you can get live online assistance with your questions about meditation and life. And you can also get a [00:02:00] personalized recorded meditation slash energy transmission to help you get through whatever challenges are showing up in your life. 

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Hello, Suzanne. I'm so honored to have you here today.

Suzanne Giesemann: Well, Kara, I've been looking forward to this, so thank you for having me on. Thank you. So I wanted to just start quickly by talking about how it even came to be that you're here, because for me, this story is just, it goes to the heart of possibility and a lot of the, the intuition and working with divine teams that you teach. Um, and it all came about very organically and by surprise for me.

Kara Goodwin: So, um, I, you were a speaker at the Sedona Ascension retreat, which was in the [00:03:00] spring of this year that we're recording in 2024 and I was promoting this event. I was planning to go, but I was also promoting it. And I saw the flyer about 5, 000 times because attaching it to things or sending, you know, messages or whatever, for whatever reason, I saw this flyer over and over and over again.

And every time there was a woman in the picture who jumped out at me, And it was you and, I have friends who were speakers on this flyer. I knew many people on this flyer either knew their work or was friends with them. And I didn't remember coming across your work before, but you just kept jumping out.

And I'm like, why do I know this woman? Or why? And I'm searching through my calendar. to try to figure out a rational reason as to why you kept jumping out. And I couldn't remember why that would be. So, but [00:04:00] I had you in the back of my mind. I signed up for one of your workshops in the, uh, during the retreat, just because I'm like, maybe I'm supposed to take her workshop, you know, set for some Yes. The, my team want, yes. my team is wanting me to pay attention to her. So. You spoke on the second day or the first full day and, um, got, I think you got a standing ovation and you were like, wowing everybody. Everybody was like right there, locked in with what you were saying. There was a big surprise even for you during your presentation where you were about a client and an experience that this woman had, and then she's.

I don't even know how you realized she was there, but you're like, wait a minute, it's you. And she was in the front row. She's like, that's me. If I could interrupt your story just long enough so we don't lose that magical moment. I had been awakened, you're using the term team, by my team of guides in the middle of that night before the keynote presentation. And they said, [00:05:00] you must include two slides about this specific woman in your talk, right here in the talk.

Suzanne Giesemann: And I thought, okay, sure. I have so many stories. I'll do that. Because they're telling me. I put it in. And she ended up in the front row. I didn't, I'd never met her. We only did a zoom meeting or phone meeting. Yes.

by phone. And so when I put her slide up on the screen that I'd been told hours earlier to put up there, she raised her hand in the front seat.

And I'm like, who is this woman? What is she doing? And she goes, it's me. And I went, So that was magical Oh my gosh. That was magical. And your, your presentation was incredible. And I'm inwardly talking to my team, like, okay, if there's any way that I could. Have Suzanne on the podcast, you know, set it up for me. I'll, I will be brave and I will invite her, but help make it easy for me. um, so you finish your talk, get a [00:06:00] standing O my friend, I was there with a few friends and one of my friends was, Was like, I think I'm going to go get something to eat.

Kara Goodwin: And I was looking forward to the next speaker. I mean, for months, I'd been looking forward to the next speaker. And so it was, it surprised even me that I was like, okay, I'll go with you. And I'm thinking, oh, but I can't go and watch the next speaker. And I was like, but I think I just need to kind of like integrate what I just, what I just watched or for whatever reason.

And so I went with her. And we're taught, we order, we sit down outside and, and my friend is talking about how she wants to take one of your classes because she thought that might be the next right step for her. And she's going into like some shifts that she wants to make in her life. And she goes. Well, there she is.

I don't even know what she's talking about. And, uh, I look over and you're walking up. You also [00:07:00] had left the conference to come and get something to eat. And you also in that presentation talked at one of one of many restaurants in Sedona, right? that's a key point. It wasn't just a conference eating place. This is off campus, so to speak. Exactly. Exactly. And in case I sound like a big weirdo, I was there first. I wasn't stalking you.

Suzanne Giesemann: Oh, I know, I know. But you were saying, I also mentioned something else. What was that? your, yeah, in your car, in your, um, presentation, you talked about how you saw a woman, you were just on a walk. I think it was in Montana in the middle of nowhere. Maybe it was one of the Dakotas and, and a woman, you know, you're on this trail, there's nobody around. And this woman just looks up and she goes.

Kara Goodwin: I just manifested you and been sitting on a bench talking to her team had been thinking [00:08:00] about her most influential spiritual teachers. And you just. Bright, you know, front and center, and then you show up in the flesh. How do you do that?

Suzanne Giesemann: it's, it is, it is manifestation. We'll get into this, but you know, part of the awakened way that I'm teaching. Teach is understanding. We're part of one big web and her team Saw me hiking down that?

trail coming towards her and they said this is going to be fun Let's put a thought in her mind. Who are my most influential spiritual teachers?

Oh suzanne giesemann Because they know we're about to meet it's converging same with you, you know Oh, I want to have lunch, but your friend's team says Invite Karen to come with me to lunch and we need to go here. Your team says, Oh, it's coming together because we're already going to influence Suzanne to go to that restaurant.

And it, and it shows us that we're never alone and we're all connected. And that's what manifesting is, is tapping into the web to our benefit.

Kara Goodwin: [00:09:00] I love it. It's so amazing. And plus your magic,

you're magical.

Suzanne Giesemann: you spoke up when I was there. Yeah, at the restaurant. I did. And I was pretty embarrassed when I sat down, but you were so kind and gracious, but yeah, because I was like, I manifested you and you didn't miss a beat. You were, you were so kind. So, and here we are. So And you said I have a podcast and I have a lot of people that ask me to be on their podcast, but as we all can learn to do with anything that arises as an opportunity, we just go into the heart and we check it out and we try to say yes to everything, but there are times when we're not supposed to say yes, and this was one.

Where of course, I said yes. Well, I'm so, so grateful and so honored. And, um, and, and thank you to my team for helping and for your team [00:10:00] for helping to, uh, to give you a nudge to, to say yes. I really Well, another important point is, number one, you know you have a team, you acknowledge it, you believe it, and you asked for this to happen. You didn't just hope, you didn't just wonder and dream, oh that'd be nice. You said, hey, let's make this happen. And so it's, it.

is a team effort with you as part of the team, with all of us having a team, not just dependent on them, but working together.

And you are the perfect example of how that happened. Also, if I could just ask that later, we talk about this concept I have in the book called snags. That's why my face kept jumping out at you on those flyers. Yes, I was, I just read about snags a few days ago and that is a great example. Yes, we will come back to that. Definitely. So your story is so inspirational of how you got your, your [00:11:00] start. And, um, because you haven't always been this, uh, this psychic medium and this conduit, this spiritual conduit, um, you started with a military background.

Kara Goodwin: And I was hoping that you could just take us. a little bit through your, your journey.

Suzanne Giesemann: Yeah. sure. It's really fun when I, I talk to groups who don't know anything about me. And I. I'd start talking about my background in the military because It's so different from who I am now, and yet it's still very much a part of me. We all have different roles that we play at different times. You know, if you go at Thanksgiving dinner back to your family, you immediately fall back into the role of whatever you were to the family,

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Oh

Suzanne Giesemann: or bad.

And so there are times in my life when it's really good to be that very left brained, organized, detailed, Navy commander who I was. I retired with the rank of commander after a full 20 years in the Navy. It was always [00:12:00] my intention to have a full career and to be a commanding officer. When you join any of the military services, there is a progression that is expected and hoped for and to be a commanding officer in any of the services is one of those goals.

So I did achieve that. When I joined the Navy, care of women were not yet allowed on almost all ships. They were only allowed on repair ships, non combatants, and that just didn't interest me. So I took the, the career path that was always serving ashore. And so I ultimately had command of a shore unit, a support unit.

But I also had, I had nine different tours in the Navy. Every one of them diverse, training, administration, intelligence, protocol. And I became somewhat of an expert at protocol because I was so detailed. planning and organizing events and ceremonies. And so I was chosen to be the protocol officer for the head of the U.

S. Navy, the chief of [00:13:00] naval operations. That was a pretty big deal. I thought that was like, boy, command commanding officer and protocol to the CNO as we called him was big, but I had no idea that for my last tour of duty That would be the biggest of all I was working as protocol officer on the staff of the joint chiefs of staff at the pentagon And the chairman of the joint chiefs the head of the whole u.

s military Saw my work and asked me to be his aid. No selection process. No interviews. Just I want you for my aid So I got to fly on air force one with the president. I was standing right behind the The big crowd on the platform for the inauguration Of president bush. This was quite a few years ago junior president bush jr But but uh right off stage so to speak where all the heavy hitters had just walked by You Uh, I flew around the world with the chairman, met with some kings and queens in person [00:14:00] and, uh, unfortunately, but part of the life plan, I was in the, well, it wasn't part of the life plan for 9 11 to happen, but part of my life plan to awaken me to tragedy was I was.

In the last aircraft in U. S. airspace on 9 11, everybody thinks the president was the last one in the air. No chairman and his staff, as we have been on our way to Europe and turned around after everybody else had been grounded. So walking up to our office building, the Pentagon, seeing it burning this big gaping hole in the side where we, uh, had just left hours earlier, not the side that was hit, but the Pentagon was life changing for everybody to be part of 9 11 was life changing, but to be up close and personal like that and the, the, the experiences in the ensuing days, that's what started me asking questions that I had put aside.

The spiritual [00:15:00] questions. Why were some people in the wrong place on that day? Why, why do some people die young? And is this life all that is? All that there is? But I didn't find satisfactory answers at that time. I did, however, realize life is too short not to live your dreams. Because there was another Navy commander who was killed on that day.

He was two weeks shy of retirement. And my husband and I had dreams. We wanted to sail off into the sunset on our sailboat and cruise around the world. And I thought, I'm not going to wait. And the day I was retirement eligible, 20 years of service to the day I retired. And the very next day we set sail. 

Kara Goodwin: Wow. 

Suzanne Giesemann: dream. 

Kara Goodwin: Wow. And so you sailed for a while.

Suzanne Giesemann: Yeah. It's failed sail for two years. Went up and down the East coast till I got enough [00:16:00] experience and was brave enough to say, let's head East. And we left the East coast of the U S and cross the Atlantic ocean in our sailboat with our little docks and, and, uh, Yeah. And then ended up in the Mediterranean, which was always a goal, a dream, but that's when life caught up to me.

Um, I hope I'm not talking too much on 

Kara Goodwin: No, please. I mean, this is all really important foundational, you 

Suzanne Giesemann: the way through the Mediterranean. We stopped at a. Navy base in Italy and there were books in English I was so excited because I didn't have kindle in 2006 Which this was and it was like fill a bag with books for a dollar So i'm grabbing all these paperbacks and one of them was by a medium named james van praag Who is now a dear friend of mine, which is just amazing because at the time I was like Oh, i've heard of these people called mediums.

I think I heard of james van praag and it was what the afterlife is like Well, that'll be interesting and I [00:17:00] started reading it And I thought, this sounds crazy to me, these things about what people, people, I can maybe believe that we survive death, but, but the fact that we do things like he's describing in the afterlife, my military brain was not ready to accept that.

So this is what's so important Kara, that prior to me becoming a medium, I had no idea there even was an afterlife. So, many people are under the misconception that you have to be born a medium. I am so grateful for this amazing connection I've opened up with the spirit world, but I had no idea beforehand.

So it's possible for anybody to develop it. That was a side note. Well, we sailed on from Italy to Croatia. I, I just set that book aside. I didn't want my husband to see that I was reading this crazy stuff. I see now that it was a setup for me to open my mind to possibilities about the afterlife because it [00:18:00] was while we were in Croatia.

We didn't have cell phones. We didn't have email access unless we went to these things they used to have called internet cafes. But we got a message when we checked our internet that we needed to call home. It was important. That's all it said. And it turned out it was the news that my stepdaughter, Susan, my dear husband's My beloved youngest daughter had been struck by lightning and killed.

And everything that I set aside on 9 11, everything I basically ran away from by sailing off into the sunset, could no longer be ignored. All the questions I asked then, and I got no answers, were I needed answers. Why do people die young? Why are some people in the wrong place at the wrong time? And ultimately I found those answers, but it came after returning home to [00:19:00] the funeral and seeing Susan's body.

In the coffin and just knowing Kara, that's not her. Maybe this spirit that I've read about in James Van Praag's book is real. And if so, and I knew it was, I just knew it. I was raised also with no religion. So I have, I'm starting fresh, which is actually a blessing. And I said, I'm going to find you, Susan.

I'm going to connect with you. And I know your program is all about meditation, Kara. I began that week, 2006, sitting, didn't even know how to meditate. It was pretty new for the mainstream in 2006. It is mainstream now, even though I hope more people will learn to do it because it is transformational. And ultimately through the daily practice of sitting and saying, Susan, reveal [00:20:00] yourself to me.

I know you're here. Where are you? Show me. Okay. That was my goal. It wasn't find peace, find love, find joy, find connection. But that's what happened. And I found Susan And so much more.

Kara Goodwin: And about how long did it 

Suzanne Giesemann: Oh, 

Kara Goodwin: before you finally heard that, Hey, Suzanne from Susan,

Suzanne Giesemann: know Yeah, that's what I heard and I I hesitated for years to tell people how long it took because I didn't want to disappoint people It took me three years So that's where not military discipline, but commitment came in I was not gonna stop because my soul which I discovered in meditation knew she existed and Years later over a decade later Susan told me that I wasn't supposed to come to you right away.

You [00:21:00] needed to learn a lot more before I showed up. I didn't want you to give up, Suzanne. If she had shown up in a few months for me, I would not have developed my mediumship to the point that I did and have. I know some people who, I have one woman, I have a, an, A YouTube video called actual evidence of the afterlife that shows a full reading I did for a couple named Patty and Dave and brought through their daughter Lauren.

It's, it's a wonderful example of evidence based mediumship. Lauren has been talking to her mom actively. Her mom has established a beautiful connection with Lauren since that reading. Quickly, like within a month. And yet it took me three years. That's because Patty isn't destined to be some spiritual teacher.

She didn't need to open up all kinds of other abilities, but my meditated practice daily for three years really set the foundation and [00:22:00] showed me what's possible and opened me up to, to all kinds of learning that anybody can have through meditation.

Kara Goodwin: and that's what I love about that so much, the whole, everything that you mentioned, the fact that you didn't have foundation for that spiritual connection, you didn't have a background that, Told you that this was possible and the fact that it wasn't, you weren't born born with it. I mean, you were, but like it didn't show up earlier for you, but it also, the fact that it didn't happen at the snap of a finger, of those things conspire to paint the story that says.

If it, if you don't feel like you're connected yet, it just means you aren't yet, but it can happen, it can happen. And, and then you have all these amazing tools that help to break it down so that it takes out some of that mystery of like, well, just sit there and wait for it to happen. And it's like, no, you [00:23:00] have very practical, easy to follow steps.

And we'll, we'll get to that because you've written this book, the awakened way. And you have these powerful stories, so it's kind of like one half is, are these really powerful stories. paint the picture of what's possible, including your, your journey with Susan's death. Um, and also including, uh, Wolf, there's another story, which you have another book about too, but, um, and, and we might, hopefully we'll have time to talk a little bit about that too, because the parallels.

Between him and Susan and are just mind blowing. Um, but the second half of the book are practical step by step, um, Applications. Things that you can apply to be able to open yourself up to this connection. So, so tell us first just about what is the awakened way of living?

Suzanne Giesemann: It is the awareness that we are not only human. And [00:24:00] living with that awareness, knowing that we're part of one big web that we showed earlier. I love that behind you on the wall is like an example of the connection of all the realities. They're all right here, interpenetrated. It's not like the spirit world's out here separate from us, different frequencies, Interrelated all the time, and it's the awareness that love is the healing, creative force of the universe, and the more we express that, and use love, which is a lack of separation, total connection, the more we are the presence of love, the more life flows.

It's so simple and yet we're not programmed that way physically. It's almost like this is some kind of a game where we're going to give you this instrument that's going to block your awareness that you are a soul and your brain's going to get in the way because you're going to react like this out of safety and defense.

But the more you let your defenses nap down and know that you ultimately cannot die and you are not alone, [00:25:00] the more Life flows the easier it gets so the awakened way is coming to know those those principles And living?

with that awareness, which just makes life easier more joyous Not always joyful because you also come to know Being awakened that we are souls That we came here for the whole experience the good and the not so good I don't like to say the word bad or negative anymore because that has a connotation like that's something we have to push away.

No, that's why everybody feels so freaking empty because we're not whole. We push away the not so good experiences when we as souls came here for all of it. When we can roll around in the mud a little bit and say, okay, got that experience, but I didn't push it away. Now we really appreciate. The [00:26:00] good experiences and we can radiate more of that.

So I used to feel really empty. I know I was alone in that. And I would turn to sugar and food that didn't make me feel so good. Happily didn't turn to alcohol. Occasionally a little over shopping. But you know, we all have these techniques we turn to. And they don't fill that emptiness for long. They only make it worse.

Over the long term. So in meditation, I discovered this part of us that never changes. By feeling it. By experiencing it. And then practicing some of the tools from the book like self inquiry. Asking, well, is this part always here? Yes.

Well, how do I access what this when I'm upset or triggered and you start to get answers and this is awakened living and we, we, we get a little clouded over even once we're awakened, you don't walk around and say, Oh, I'm awakened, [00:27:00] you know, just like the humans go to sleep every once in a while.

And we get a, we, we tend to forget. But once you have that experience of who we really are, the part that never changes, doesn't have the ups and downs, that's the relief valve. We can go back to that through meditation and just brief pauses anytime throughout the day. And so the subtitle, I don't know if you're gonna open it all to the bigger Screen on your podcast, but the book is beside me here and the subtitle is making the shift to a divinely guided life That's what it is to realize we are all always divinely guided and our Encounter with each other is just one example of that.

So we shift our focus from oh, i'm only human Oh, this drama is overwhelming to I am human. This is overwhelming And I'm also a soul and have a [00:28:00] relief valve. Let me pause. See, a long answer. 

Kara Goodwin: No, that was beautiful. Well, and as I mentioned, you have these, um, kind of, Well, you talked about the snag and you've got the SIP. You've got different kinds of methods and different ways to think about ways that your seemingly everyday life can become more connected to the soul, the spirit. Um, let's talk about snags.

You mentioned that before. Uh, what, what are snags? Why are they beneficial for us?

Suzanne Giesemann: They're one of my favorite tools because they're multifaceted. They show us?

that we're not alone. That we're being guided. That we're part of a web. That we're not only human. Because we Use them as a tool to let our team in spirit which includes guides and [00:29:00] our loved ones who have passed That's our team.

It allows them to get our attention When they can help us when they have a message for us when they want to let us know They're around when we're about to make a mistake those kinds of experiences to have higher helpers with the bigger picture Let us know there's a message for us. Can you imagine how helpful that would be?

So a snag is based on having like a sweater that you look down and there's a pull And the thread is sticking out. We call that we snagged our sweater. It catches your attention because it stands out So a snag is when the spirit world uses anything around you at any moment to catch your attention because it stands out.

Normally, if you, anybody watching this right now looks around the room or if you're [00:30:00] listening, look around the room and notice how everything has the same kind of feel. But if you ask the spirit world to snag your attention with something that has meaning for you. Something will catch you as you normally just look around the room.

I was just snagged by a nice Crystal obelisk I have on the windowsill over there of anything that could stand out You get to know what a snag feels like you saw it when you looked at the flyers from the conference I just kept jumping out at you clearly spirit wanted us to get together and we're catching your attention So, okay this crystal caught my attention You The second step, which is very important, is realizing you have a team that's helping you and making that shift to being divinely guided by just saying, Okay, I believe you're here and you snagged me with that.

That's implicit. You don't have to [00:31:00] say it. Why did that particular object just snag me? And now you just listen. Listening includes watching what arises in the screen of your mind. It could be an image. But for me, we have, we're in a new house here for the summer. And we have guests coming next week. And they reminded me, We want you to put some crystals in the guest room over the garage It hasn't been used yet that will make it more pleasant and clear the energy for your guests who are coming So really nice helpful message.

I just got there that I might not have realized If I hadn't had this this is important open requests to the universe Snag me when there's a message for me, right? It's like, you know your cell phone You can put it on silent but a little note. That's what it is. Good one. There's my guides the snags are [00:32:00] Notifications they pop up right and you just kind of glance down and oh, yeah a notification so Everybody listening right now If you like this idea, here's what we do.

Let's set an intention together. Talk with me now from your heart to the spirit world. Even if you haven't yet experienced the spirit world, may my words be yours. Okay, team, my guides in spirit. I like this idea of snags. I am open to being snagged by you with a notification, with a message. Anytime you have something to share with me, catch my attention.

I will do my best to notice I've been snagged, and to ask for the message and hear it, and if it's helpful, I will act on it. thank you. so much. This is going to be fun. And there we go.

Kara Goodwin: Wow,

Suzanne Giesemann: ha, ha, ha. 

Kara Goodwin: [00:33:00] that. I know with me personally, I have, I can have trouble in that listening part where I feel like I want to stay open and then it feels like I start to railroad know, like maybe they mean this, or maybe I saw this, or did you ever have that kind of stumbling block and 

Suzanne Giesemann: sure. 

Kara Goodwin: advice 

Suzanne Giesemann: sure, sure. Yeah, that's your left brain trying to overpower the right brain that is hearing the answer sensing it knowing it already So trust that there is a part of you of your wholeness that knows the answer that you're getting It's actually knows it before it even comes in but go with the very first thing you sense Because that's the right brain that just immediately puts into awareness What the the message is and then the left brain is going to pile on all this second guessing, analyzing, logical reasoning, blah, blah, blah.

Just stick [00:34:00] with the first one and, and feel, okay, that feels pretty good. I might've made that up, but it's helpful. And that's all that?

matters. And then you act on it. Like we said in our intention that we just said right there, like I am going to go out and buy some crystals and I will put them in my guest room.

And I'll see if it makes a difference. And then does it matter if you made it up or not? You know, what is made up stuff? It's, it's stuff that arises in awareness. And it has to come from somewhere. Is it coming from your restricted mind or the more expanded mind? Yeah

Kara Goodwin: I love that. Thank you. Yeah, that, that really makes sense. And, and it's funny because, you know, with your military background, it, I don't have a military background, but I have a corporate background and a very, you know, it focused, um, and. You know, just even through school, through training, it's often like, no, you have to do your research.

You have to, [00:35:00] you know, it's not the first thing that comes to mind. It's, you know, 

Suzanne Giesemann: Yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: you know, take it 

Suzanne Giesemann: get that will really block your connection but you become aware of that So this is a practice and it is a daily way of life. That's why it's the awakened way It's not just something you do now. It becomes a way of life so that for me now, snags are fantastic. They happen multiple times a day. I

no longer need a to do list. I no longer set long term goals because I just flow with my team. They pace me. They show me what to do next. It is, it makes life so much easier and that's the goal. That's the goal. 

Kara Goodwin: love that. So who, who have you written this book for? Because it's, you know, we met people who may be listening, maybe thinking, well, I know how to meditate or I already feel a connection, but it, know, it's not necessarily for beginners. So please, please, please. Talk about who you wrote it [00:36:00] for,

Suzanne Giesemann: Oh, it absolutely can be for beginners. It's, it's so beautiful because

Kara Goodwin: just,

Suzanne Giesemann: was guided, for sure. So it, it is for the spectrum of humanity, wherever you are. But really, three categories of people. It's for those who are grieving the passing of a loved one, and want to know they're here and how to connect with them.

It's for anybody who's despairing. about anything and just sometimes once off the planet, you know, I would never have come here. Why, what is, why is my life so challenging? So it's for them because it gives you tools. And the third one is for those who have been seeking and seeking. Awakening for quite a while and just don't seem to get there.

I mean, you can just get there from the information and the tools in this book. It's based on what I call the three E's of the awakened way. Of living the awake and wait, educate yourself. So that has the foundational material and then experience for yourself. Don't just read [00:37:00] about it, have the personal experience that you're a soul and connecting.

And then the 30 is engage. Your team higher consciousness. We call it the a team in the book We're the B team a team is above B team is below higher consciousness And so this is not linear. You don't have to first read it then experience then engage It's a flow read a little and experience a little engage while you go and just,

keep flowing onward and upward 

Kara Goodwin: oh, it's beautiful. So I shared that one of my favorite, one of the snags in the book was Wolf's story. Um, for me and not just Wolf's story in and of itself, which was remarkable, but also the interweaving with Susan's story, they just created this amazing tapestry. And, know, when you want to engage with.

The idea that life continues [00:38:00] after death. It's, it's profoundly convincing this, 

Suzanne Giesemann: It's proof. 

Kara Goodwin: that you 

Suzanne Giesemann: It's proof, 

Kara Goodwin: in there are. Yes. Can you share a little bit about that? And I know you have another book too, just about Wolf. Struck

Suzanne Giesemann: right? It's called Wolf's message. He's a young man. 29 years old You Left a poem and a drawing tacked to the wall of his bedroom day before he was struck and killed by lightning, like my stepdaughter.

Kara Goodwin: by lightning, like

Suzanne Giesemann: my stepdaughter. 

Kara Goodwin: Yes,

Suzanne Giesemann: He left a poem and a drawing that, well, the poem said, the last line of the poem is, It is time for the light of nature to free my soul.

And the drawing in that poem showed the exact spot where he was killed. And we know it was put there the day before he was killed because [00:39:00] his dad was in that room the two days before and it wasn't there. He, I don't want to give away all the spoilers, but I won't. There are multiple aspects of the proof that his soul knew all about this.

And I only had one person in the tens of thousands who've read this story and heard this story. It's also shared in a video on YouTube called Heart Gifts, a presentation I did. Only one person got really mad at Wolf and mad at the story. Well, if he knew he was going to be killed there and then, why did he go there?

He caused his family all this grief. It's the bigger picture and this is what helps all of us when it is your time It's your time and why do these things happen? He has now touched hundreds of thousands of people's lives through the telling of his story and He came back for a reason came [00:40:00] back through me in a reading twice Well many more times afterwards with his story parents, his dad and stepmom, Mike and Beth, he came back to share a much bigger message than I'm still here.

It's all about who we are and why we're here. And his message became my Awaken Way principles. They're not really mine, they're humanity's, but I just happen to package them this way and call it the Awaken way. And I'm so excited, Kara, this is the first time I'm sharing this news on your broadcast here.

Finally, we have manifested what we have all envisioned since the book Wolf's Message came out years ago, filming of a documentary based on this work and Wolf's Message begins this month. 

Kara Goodwin: you're kidding me. 

Suzanne Giesemann: So I hope people will sign up for my email list on my website So you can be part of the [00:41:00] the news as the documentary comes to fruition and where it will air But it's going to be phenomenal.

We were led to the filmmaker and his company Jim spruill is our guy and his team uh are coming from the heart the web itself revealed itself and how that came to be so I'm excited because more people will come to know Wolf's story and The Awakened Way as a result of this film. 

Kara Goodwin: wow. That's incredible And 

Suzanne Giesemann: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: would give too much away, but think it's really powerful that He, there was just a tiny little cell of weather that, and with Susan as well, it's as though the lightning just came out of nowhere. It's not like either of them were in a downpour 

Suzanne Giesemann: That's right. That's right. That's right. 

Kara Goodwin: everybody else was taking cover.

They were in, they were in safety as far as they knew.

Suzanne Giesemann: That's right, a beautiful day, Susan [00:42:00] Storm was 10 miles away, 10 miles, and she was just crossing the flight line, in uniform, on duty, and was struck, and then, and by the way, we didn't share with everybody that Susan was 6 months pregnant with our only grandchild, so, I know tragedy. And I also know how we can all take something that is the worst thing you can imagine and turn it into Something positive for ourselves and others So don't ask why we can ask why we're programmed to ask why when something befalls us Ask what can I do to honor the love we share?

How can I find the silver linings in this? And I found them through meditation and and that SIP practice you mentioned earlier is a three minute sit in [00:43:00] peace meditation For people who make the excuse I don't have time to meditate and I can't quiet my mind That one I just saw the views on youtube of that video are 300 000 now and i've taught it to Thousands in my classes online and in person and people love it Love it.

Even in three minutes a day, you can change your life and find your true self, right? 

Kara Goodwin: Yes, that's beautiful. Were there any parts of the book that you found difficult to write?

Suzanne Giesemann: I would say Of probably Some of the practices because they're such they're so second nature to me now and they flow and they're lovely that Some little parts became tedious Writing it all out and writing the steps because I didn't want it to be tedious [00:44:00] to read I needed to make it so that people wouldn't go.

Oh, this is boring and it's taking too long I'm, just going to set it aside. I want them to be to engage You in the exercises. So that part, but anytime it got like that, I would feel a lack of flow, and I would just stop writing. And I would wait until my team gave me the nudge. Now sit down again. And so it flowed. 

Kara Goodwin: Yes. I imagine there was a little bit of a reverse engineering process happening where it's like, okay, how do I do this? 

Suzanne Giesemann: Oh, yes. 

Kara Goodwin: I can. Yeah. Where there 

Suzanne Giesemann: Well, that's interesting.

Kara Goodwin: just flow,

Suzanne Giesemann: Yeah. I love your, your corporate it term. I never thought of it as reverse engineering, but that's exactly what happened when my husband said to me years ago, you need to be teaching mediumship and I at first said, no, I have too much going on. And then my team started giving me the syllabus.

I realized [00:45:00] there are systems for connecting with loved ones who have passed and guides and angels. Meaning. If you do it this way every time the spirit world knows what to expect and you'll get results So I sat and I said well if i'm going to teach systems What do I do? And I wasn't I didn't realize I was using systems because it's just it becomes a part of your way of being So that's where the bless me method came from the seven steps to connecting with higher consciousness That's in the book and on my website on the gifts page all kinds of gifts there You Is what is it I do?

And military people love acronyms. I've already thrown around several of them in this in this interview, you know, the SIP, the bless me method, and I have many more. And so I came up with seven steps and went, Oh, look, that fits into a beautiful acronym. So we can remember this process and use it. [00:46:00] I 

Kara Goodwin: right. Yes. I, I learned the bless me method live with you in the workshop that I attended and. that was amazing. Yeah. 

Suzanne Giesemann: teach it in almost every class. 

Kara Goodwin: yeah. And again, so practical, as you say, just the, um, simple and not having to take a ton of time, you know, understanding modern living in that, you know, a lot of people want to fit this into their normal activities as well. 

Suzanne Giesemann: I think that's one of the most. 

Kara Goodwin: Oh, sorry. 

Suzanne Giesemann: Okay, well, it's one of the most frequent comments that I get from people that they like the fact that I'm very grounded because I do. I have had that military background and that now I've opened up this other spiritual side, and we all have both. So I hope to model the balance between the two.

It's, it's a beautiful way to live. [00:47:00] 

Kara Goodwin: I agree. It's, it's very beautiful. The balance that I see within you and, and that makes it so approachable as well for, um, a lot of times when we enter into the, this type of work, is this like, well, you just feel it. And then, you know, your team's here and, you know, and it's, it's a little bit, um, wishy washy where it's like, well, I don't know if, you know, Especially when you have a very practical left brain approach to life, like, like I do as well.

So. 

Suzanne Giesemann: Yeah. I teach, uh, I teach two kinds of, I, I teach two kinds of mediumship. I teach personal mediumship for people who have no intention of being a medium, and then I teach standard mediumship for those who want to try doing readings for others. It's an interesting, uh, difference that I'd never seen anybody else do.

I teach online and in person, and. I've had people come up to me and say they learned more in this two day class or in an online class than in four years of studying mediumship because [00:48:00] many teachers just say, well, okay, sit down and do a reading. I want to know how and what and why. And So I've really distilled it down and very succinct and easy to understand language because that's how my brain works. 

Kara Goodwin: Yes. Well, one of the things that I came across in your work too, was I don't think you discuss this in the awakened way, actually, but I'm curious the role of protection, because this is something when you talk about like opening yourself up, kind of lifting into higher realms, but you are expanding your consciousness.

What are your thoughts on protection, psychic protection and things of that 

Suzanne Giesemann: They're not thoughts, they're absolute experience and what I've learned from my guides. In fact, I do a monthly webinar for anybody online. That's usually on a Tuesday night for two hours. And we're discussing this in an upcoming one. The need [00:49:00] for protection comes from the lack of awareness of who we are, which is beings of light emanations of one source.

So that is the light and sure there is darkness here. We are aware of that, but the light overcomes all. In fact, Oh, we haven't talked about this. I have an app called the daily, um, the awakened way app, awakened way app. And I put a fresh message from spirit that I get in meditation every morning onto the app.

And today's message even has, let me pull it up. It talks about what we're talking about here with protection. It's, it's Really?

nice to pull up today's message. And it says, once you begin to notice presence, Of light versus lack of awareness, which is fear. It is quite obvious. Do not fight darkness with darkness.

Do not fight at all. Bring in what is missing and see how that changes things. So I had the experience in the past month of [00:50:00] being awake in the middle of the night lying in bed It was not a dream But it was like a meditative experience that suddenly I felt what anybody would have called evil beings I saw gargoyle like faces coming at me panic and fear But I know I am the light.

This is just an experience I can't die. This can't kill me and the light is love You In that moment, and this takes Awareness. I just said through the fear, you cannot harm me. I love you because anything That's less than the light doesn't realize it's also love. so you just send it what's missing. And I just said, I love you.

And it, and at first, literally, I felt this hand on my throat. And I said, I love you. I just am sending you all this light. And it was like in like the wizard of Oz when he goes, [00:51:00] the wicked witch dissolves. It just, it took all the power away from this. So I don't ever feel the need to put up this Protection.

My guides just grab, grab me and corrected me. I don't feel it from the spirit world when I'm in a crowd of people who don't get who we are. I will fill my aura with light and that's all the protection we need so that I don't get buffered by not positive energy. It's going to flow through me no matter what.

We're all just these porous fields of energy, but it won't stick. But if we are ever afraid, Just send it love. It has to go away. That's the way the universe works. So for anybody who still has some fears and hasn't practiced this enough, just affirm I am the light. I am love and I'm [00:52:00] sending love outward to the world as my innate protection.

Yes.

Kara Goodwin: That's so fascinating and I've had similar experiences where I'm in that in betweeny state and I'm not asleep yet, but, uh, and that's where I get the most. of seeing like energy patterns and things like that. And, but I don't see things as clearly as you like. I don't see forms or, um, I, again, I, I'll see these patterns and things, but I'll have things that ever, it doesn't happen a lot, but sometimes where it's as those, these shapes come together and I'll see like a, you know, a scary figure that has like really pointy teeth and looks like it's, you know, 

Suzanne Giesemann: So you are seeing things, see? 

Kara Goodwin: But it, well, it feels as though, uh, it's. Like I can change my focus. Like I can look at it from a [00:53:00] different or, um, and then it will change. And it's also about like what I think about it. What, like you're saying, like if I, if I'm going, well, what is this? Like, maybe this is a guardian. Maybe it's like keeping away.

things, and I just, you know, maybe it presents like this to scare other things away on my behalf, you know, it's like, what don't I know? I, there are things that I, I don't know here. So maybe it's not the first, you know, like. Scary thing that I think of, but because I don't necessarily see things as crystal clear, like I can, I have some wiggle room to be like, well, I'm not sure that's actually what I'm seeing.

What if I from a slightly, like I bring my consciousness at a different distance. I don't know if that makes any sense, but, 

Suzanne Giesemann: Yes. 

Kara Goodwin: can, it can change form. But 

Suzanne Giesemann: Well, curiosity, which is what you're displaying there, curiosity is very helpful in [00:54:00] any of these adventures in consciousness. And so what part of you is curious? Could it be the soul? And the soul has no fear. So you learn to make that shift between the restricted, frightened human being that's worried about being heard and seeing Doesn't like being scared and stepping back.

My microphone just popped off, stepping back and observing with detachment and saying, oh, isn't that interesting.

That's another phrase that's in the book, right? To take you to neutral and be able to shift and say, I am love and expression here. I'm just gonna send love to this situation and watch it. And then most of the time it just dissolves.

And if it doesn't, bring in some other tools. 

Kara Goodwin: Yes. That's beautiful. Well, Suzanne, how can people engage with you? Do you, you have, you have some courses coming up. You talked [00:55:00] about this project that's, that's on the horizon with wolf story. And, uh, please, how can people find out 

Suzanne Giesemann: Yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: coming down the pipeline?

Suzanne Giesemann: wowee. Well, my website will usually have everything That's up to date, SuzanneGiesman. com and right under the main banner, this a little, has some silly pictures in it, we have usually five upcoming main events. We just announced a cruise to the Caribbean, seven days and 14 hours of time with me in the theater on the ship to Learn tools and talk about connecting and have guided meditations and experience my guides channeling So that caribbean cruises next year a new book on mediumship coming out in october my monthly webinars Another book coming out next spring.

So please, if you go to my website, join the email list and you'll hear about all these things. I also have a weekly podcast that, uh, you can find on my YouTube channel as Well, [00:56:00] as all the major podcast sites. So a lot of busy things going on, but all fun. Joy,

Kara Goodwin: Well, I can't thank you enough for being here. You are, you're so inspirational and you're, you are this great big light, but it's just doing such amazing work here. So I'm truly, truly honored to spend this time with you. Thank you so much. I

Suzanne Giesemann: you're radiating a lot of light. And so, you know, when you get two people together that, that feel that joy, it's infectious. So I hope that everybody today has felt that And I'd like to end with one phrase that is very meaningful and I, and people don't always get it at the level of the soul. You're already whole your soul is not a victim.

Your soul is not wounded. That is a mistaken belief. Our human story, our role gets tumbled around at [00:57:00] times within the story. You may be a victim, but you are already whole and complete. Find that part in you and then the rest will start to heal.

Kara Goodwin: feel that in my heart. Thank you so much. It's beautiful.

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