324. Guidance on Quantum Journeying: An Enlightening Q&A on Spiritual Liberation - Isabella Greene

 [00:00:00] Hello and welcome to the meditation conversation. The podcast to support your spiritual revolution. I'm your host, Kara Goodwin. And this is the recording from the Encore Q and a session with Isabella green. You can hear the first live stream and episode three 15. And while we loved that live stream, we didn't get to as many questions from participants as we were hoping. 

So this is a chance to focus on those. And we had some amazing questions. So you're going to get so much out of this episode. 

There's a lot of wisdom and nuanced insight in what Isabella shares. And there were times that she would say something and I really wanted to kind of pause what she was saying and get a highlighter out to somehow really highlight. What she was saying, because it was so important. 

For instance, her perspective on the shadows that arise during the breath work. 

So just really look for these. There are so many [00:01:00] gems in this episode, you're going to get a lot out of it. Isabella has some fantastic events and offerings coming up, so be sure to check out Isabella green.com . And that's green with an E at the end. I can't wait to see her at the Sedona Ascension retreat next week. You can use code meditation to get 10% off if you'd like to join that. And she also talks about a retreat that she has coming up at the end of may. 

So if you can get out to Sedona and see her life, I highly recommend that. And now enjoy this episode. 

Kara Goodwin: Hello, everybody. So nice to have you all here. Thank you so much for joining.

I hope everybody's having a wonderful Tuesday. Wait, it's not Tuesday for everybody. Is it Patty? Oh, for some people, it might be Wednesday already, right? You're joining us from the future.

Okay. So I know we will have more people rolling in here. So we'll kind of, we'll get [00:02:00] started. I just want to welcome everybody. My name is Cara Goodwin, and I'm the host of the meditation conversation. And we are live streaming this beautiful live, live streamed Q and a with Isabella green for the conscious awakening network.

So we've got some people joining us here on zoom. We've got others watching the streaming on the conscious awakening network and on their various platforms across. YouTube and Facebook and all of those great platforms. So welcome, everybody. And the purpose here today is to follow up from the last time it was last month that we talked with Isabella and get started.

we're going to start with Isabella, just maybe reminding us a little bit or introducing us a little bit to your work. We went into a lot of depth in the live stream, so people have access to that recording, but just a [00:03:00] little introduction on, on leaving the trap and then also what we're doing today.

Isabella Greene: All right. So first of all, Kara, thank you very much for hosting this. I don't have my own platform at the moment. And so this is really, really useful for myself and everyone who wants to listen. And there are so many questions that I receive. I receive more emails and comments. on all platforms that I could even read, let alone answer.

So having this container is really helpful. we have somewhere around a hundred people who sign up for this experience. And so we have less than a minute per person, 30 seconds per person. And, so once we get to the questions, we're going to get to the questions, like. In a second so that I can cover as much as I can.

I would like you to keep the following in mind. This is not to give a personal reading or a personal explanation of your dreams. This is something [00:04:00] that everyone can benefit from. So I would like to invite you to, first of all, keep your questions short and to the point because Kerry is going to be the one reading them.

so that we, uh, to the point and I can answer straightforward and keep the questions to, the point of exiting reincarnation. And, for one, with one exception, for those of you who are already doing the cosmic cobra breath and who might have questions about what happens or what's happening with you in that while you are doing this practice, this is the only exception that I would like to make is to describe and discuss in your personal experience right now, because I think everyone can benefit from that.

 especially those who are already doing the practice or who are considering starting the practice. So, that's kind of And the kind of [00:05:00] information that is useful for everyone, but, I released my book, last year, early last year, and it really took off, the subject of Exit to Reincarnation wasn't even on YouTube, for like nine months ago, now it's everywhere.

And so it seems like, we tapped into the idea that everyone was sitting on for a long time and then now we suddenly got permission to talk about it. And so people are coming out and speaking about it and considering and asking questions and questioning the whole reality and everything. And so this is.

I feel this is my contribution. I feel that my purpose is to lead you out of the mundane and into exploration. I meaning to explore, and question things and find your own path as the [00:06:00] spiritual kindergarten is when you say, Hey, I'm going to mimic what you did. What did you do? Teach me that. I'm going to mimic that.

That's spiritual kindergarten from my perspective. We want to reach the level of mastery where you pay attention to what someone else did and how they, arrived where they're at and how, Others arrived at the same goal because we are all really focusing on the same space of liberation and freedom getting out of the whole structure, the matrix, the limitations of the human, humanness that we're stuck in right here, um, how others did it and then figuring out your own path.

This is the mastery because you. are unique, and your path is unique. So take all of the answers, take all of the practices, play with them, experiment [00:07:00] with them, and find your own path, and that's, that is the path that's going to work for you. So I wanted to start with that, and I think we're ready for the questions.

How, how does it look on your end there, Kara? Yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: we've got some great ones coming in. And I, and thank you for saying that too, because I, I feel that was really evident in your book as well, that you were like, I'm still evolving. I'm still evolving my theories and my understandings, and I'm still trying to kind of piece together what I understand.

And this makes a lot of sense to me right now. Allow it to be an evolution rather than like a fixed hard and fast like no 

Isabella Greene: There's there is no fixed hard and fast in spirituality. First of all secondary I want to thank everyone who is on this call who joined my group exiting reincarnation.

You guys have been My facebook group exiting reincarnation You guys have been submitting Posting material that has [00:08:00] expanded my own awareness and also made me question or ask more questions and I'm learning a whole lot and I'm learning a lot through these interactions, through your questions, through the interviews that I'm giving, through what the hosts are asking.

So it's a constant, constantly developing, path. And the more we share in that way is The more we grow. So I appreciate everyone with your ideas, with your posts, with your, with the information that you bring to me, with the questions that you bring to me. So let's go on with the questions on care. Thank you very much for your assistance.

Kara Goodwin: Yes, absolutely. So Francesca, we're going to start with you. her first question, why do we need to become conscious and decide to not leave the trap? Sorry, and decide to leave the trap or not while we're still alive? Can we not gain knowledge, consciousness and make decisions out there? 

Isabella Greene: Well, while you're out there, that's already too late.[00:09:00] 

That's my perspective. I've seen that, and you can hear that, in all the stories of near death experiences, that once you're out of the body and you are pulled into the cycle that is the next level or the layer of the astral plane, the astral dimension around Earth, that's where the soul goes, by definition, right at the moment of when the body let go, that's, that's it.

You, you really are trapped, caught into the next level of the cycle. So figuring it out now and teaching yourself now. How to consciously direct your spirit form. That is, the key of my teachings. Learning how to go out of body at will, so you can send yourself to the dimension that you prefer. You can send yourself where you want to [00:10:00] go and not be just vacuumed into the dimension that is the extension of the earthly incarnation cycle.

This is why. You want to learn, it's kind of exercise in the muscle of going out of body. So when you die, you technically are out of body and you already have the skill of operating that non physical self. That's the answer. Okay. 

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. She also asks, is there a way to know for sure that we are completely out of the trap or still 

Isabella Greene: in it?

Well, if you, if you didn't do anything in this lifetime and you jumped into, the astral plane where you are interacting with the beings that are telling you you have to come back, and reincarnate again, you're in a trap. If you have, practiced or practiced, get past that dimension, and you [00:11:00] are experiencing the complete liberation from the limitations of all systems, then you're out of the trap.

Thank you, Francesca, for your questions. 

Kara Goodwin: Okay, Scott asks, In your experience, what are the gods and goddesses, particularly Vedic ones? Are they handlers, part of the reincarnation trap, do mantra based meditation techniques that use their names, like TM, keep us stuck here?

Or are they aspects of a higher vibration form that can aid us out of the trap? 

Isabella Greene: I think that the original Deities, the original beings are non terrestrial beings who were here on earth plane for whatever reason and Some of them were teaching humanity What to do with themselves like Krishna was sharing Kriya Yoga and different techniques and even the breathing techniques And, given the guidance to the humans, how to, transcend the whole human [00:12:00] experience.

So the original ones were the benevolent beings. And I believe that they came from outside of the earth plane, to assist humanity when that was possible back in the day. but the ones that you encounter in the reincarnation cycle and during the near death experiences, I posit that those are the handlers posing as these beings so that you will believe what they have to say to you.

That's my answer. 

Kara Goodwin: I'm curious, with that, with the mantra, do you see that being, are we going deeper into a trap if we're using these mantras that invoke these? 

Isabella Greene: I think the mantras have a vibration as far as I know, as far as I understand that the mantras have a higher vibration and the mantras, help you elevate the frequency while you are in this [00:13:00] dimension.

So I don't see anything wrong with the mantras. Okay. 

Kara Goodwin: Could you tell for someone who practices the yogic breath in the morning or evening every day, will it be effective to wake up kundalini after some period of time practicing? 

Isabella Greene: Yes, if you do, the idea here is to do it every day. That's the only requirement.

I recommend doing it in the middle of the night, but I started doing it in the morning first. First three years, I did it first thing in the morning. When I didn't get to first thing in the morning, once in a while, I did it in the evening. But in the evening, because you're tired and you want to sleep and that, that doesn't really, I don't know, do much in the evening.

But it's better than nothing. So, I recommend doing them in the middle of the night. But if you do it consistently, technically it might add a little more time, like during the morning [00:14:00] hours, the sun is bright, and your inner chemistry in the brain is already so, is already awake, so you're not really Utilizing the chemistry that's available to you internally, like your DMT production that happens in the middle of the night.

You're not utilizing that if you're doing it in the middle of the day. Same, if you're doing it in the morning, same as if you're doing it in the evening, because your brain is still in beta, and it is something that is not conducive to your, to the fullness of your experience. This is why it's good to do it in the night.

But if you continue doing it, consistently, consistently, every single day, you will just extend the period of time, until you have, the, um, desired result. Unless you start doing it in the middle of the night. But it's good to do it every day, regardless of what hour. Beautiful. 

Kara Goodwin: how do we bypass the [00:15:00] handlers?

Isabella Greene: Well, there is a whole thing about that in my book, but, you don't. Unless you have, unless you have trained yourself to go out of body and learned how to handle your non physical form while you're still alive so you can handle it at the moment of death in the same exact way you do not bypass the handlers you're going to face the handlers that's the part of the reincarnation cycle that's the part of the whole astral plane where the soul by definition by easy setup of the system goes once your body lets go of that soul Okay.

Kara Goodwin: Wonderful. Thank you. I want to know where my son is. He died in 2015. I can feel him when I focus, but there must be more, any 

Isabella Greene: advice. I can't answer where your son is.

Kara Goodwin: Okay. Francesca had [00:16:00] one more question that I like too. Quantum travel. How can we protect the body without leaving it unattended slash empty, which would allow entities to 

Isabella Greene: enter? Right. So that's a great question. A lot of people ask that question.

But the, the thing is. You only bring entities back if you're astral projecting. Astral dimension has an array of spirits that, love to follow you back into your body or mess with your body if you're in the astral plane. If you bypass the astral plane, so there's a difference between going into the astral dimension, astral projecting.

Also, all of the things, ayahuasca ceremonies and stuff, they all take you into the astral dimension. So, once you are in that dimension, you are open to spirits jumping into [00:17:00] your body. So this is why I always preach, and I always recommend that you go into You bypass, you learn how to quantum travel, you come out of the top of your head like a rocket and you end up in the space of primordial field, the void if you wish, and that uh, Does not have any entities that is going to follow you or attack your body.

And simultaneously, your frequency is so high when you were there, you come back into the body. Anything that might've crawled in, which it usually doesn't, but anything that might've crawled in, you drop back into the body with. Such level of frequency from the fabric of reality itself, the spirits, the lower dimensional spirits, they can't sustain that.

They just get evaporated from that. So this is why I say, do not astral project, [00:18:00] go quantum travel. Hmm, that's 

Kara Goodwin: beautiful. Thank you. Okay. 

Isabella Greene: Is there a God? What is that question right there? Uh, 

Kara Goodwin: Oh yeah, here.

Is there a God? It seems that I'm learning that we are in a simulation overruled by the demurge. And when I look at all of the trauma that happens and has happened in the world, children abused, war, etc. It seems like it's all just the demurge creating and feeding on loosh. 

Isabella Greene: Correct. Correct. That's the system.

That's the system that's set up on this planet. This planet has this system that does not have any interest in the well being of its subjects right here. It is called the matrix. The matrix is set within the dimensions that have the consciousness of feeding off of its subjects. And so that's what we have happening here.

Is there a God? Definitely, but not within this [00:19:00] dimension. There's a higher consciousness that you can Connect with and attain connection with and experience, but you're gonna have to work for that to reach that level. Going to a institution that was put there for control like a church is not going to take you there.

looking at the, book or, or, the picture of someone who was an ascended soul is not going to take you there. You need to work on it to experience, the state of divinity, and it's possible through They use like kriya yoga, kundalini yoga, breath, and, the cosmic cobra breath takes you right there.

You don't have to, you don't have to believe anything. You will experience God eventually if you keep doing that practice. Just that breath work and [00:20:00] meditation alone. That's enough. Mm hmm. Wonderful. 

Kara Goodwin: Okay. how likely is it to become an earthbound spirit using these methods? 

Isabella Greene: I don't understand this question.

I think 

Kara Goodwin: maybe when you pass away, how there are like maybe ghosts 

Isabella Greene: or Oh, that? Okay. that's called a disincarnate. And so if you, didn't go That being vacuumed into the light, the simulation of the light that we have here, that's the, the white tunnel thing, if you, in the end you didn't go into the higher dimensions because you didn't learn how to do that, now you have an option of backing off and just bouncing around the earth plane, a lot of these non, um, physicalized, disincarnate souls attached to the next host, and that kind of gives them an illusion that they have [00:21:00] extended their stay on Earth, but that's a miserable existence, and so, it's not, it's not something that we want to even consider as an option for ourselves, you don't want to be a ghost bouncing around Earth plane, I, Encourage you to learn the practices that will take you to the space of freedom, liberation for your soul.

Return to the essence of your true self as, as this. Spirit, rather than just be stuck within the earth plane, bouncing around. What difference does it make whether you have a physical or non physical form? You'll just be, subject to the same uncomfortable rules very similar in the non physical spirit world around Earth plane, which is full of wars and, and, demonic entities and lower dimensional spirits and primitive spirits and they're all going to harass you, same as, same as what we have in the Earth plane.

So [00:22:00] why do you want to do that? No, I don't recommend doing that, but you can, sure. Okay. 

Kara Goodwin: I, it sounded like, she was wanting to not have that happen, but, Okay, Samira asks, when I do the breathing work to quantum jump, I do astral project. How to do 

it 

Isabella Greene: properly? Hi, Samira. Nice to have you. How to do it properly, you will learn at my workshop that you're coming to in May.

And if you are doing the, if you are doing the, cosmic cobra breath, you're going to learn. How to go out of body. It's a natural side effect, properly and not into the astral plane. How you know the difference? Do you even know the difference? The difference is that you are, experiencing yourself standing in the same room looking at your body or in the dimensions around Earth plane or locations that are similar, that are all a part of the astral [00:23:00] plane and there is speed.

There, meaning you move from one, one point to the next point with a certain speed. You experience the movement through space. That's astral projecting right there. returning to your body, you experience returning to your body, your float out of the body. That's astral projecting. That's something you don't want to do.

Okay, 

Kara Goodwin: wonderful. We have. when, so once you die and are in the astral, are you trapped? 

Isabella Greene: Yep. Yes, you are. And there is a, there's a great chapter, by the way, in Yogananda's book that I finally, I finally got myself to, and that's where his guru, Sri Yaktasvara, Resurrects, so to speak, and shows up, and he tells about the structure of the matrix pretty much in that, chapter.

He doesn't tell about, he doesn't call it the matrix, but he says that Earth plane hangs [00:24:00] surrounded by the astral realm. And we cross incarnate back and forth, going back to astral and then back to earth plane and blah, blah, blah. And so it's a little lighter in the astral plane and it's called the heavens, but, that's that.

It's a part of the, entrapment system around earth plane because it still has the same rules. It's a little bit lighter and more pleasant, but it's still the same rules as what we experience within this. reality judgment and punishment and, not good enough and have to pay off, the karma.

But the truth is, the longer you're on Earth, the longer you're in any space experiencing action doing something, the more karma you have. So we're not really paying off. Anything that's like the credit card, it's set up the same exact way as the credit card debt. Huh. If you're making minimum payments every month, every incarnation, you just make minimum payment, your debt keeps growing.

That's the same [00:25:00] exact system. And it's ironic how that, credit card system is set up exactly the same as the karma system too. 

Kara Goodwin: So that's in, You were talking about Yogananda, is that an autobiography 

Isabella Greene: of a yogi? That what I just said about karma is what I said. In the autobiography of the yogi is where Sri Yukteswar describes the astral plane with all its rules and the cross, crossing over from astral to earth, from earth to astral, from astral to earth, to earth to astral, is a plane of the karma.

Okay. 

Kara Goodwin: I was just wanting to be clear, because I want to go back and read that, and he's got several 

Isabella Greene: books. So Chapter 43. Okay. In, Autobiography of the Yogi. A lot of information in there that, supports what I've experienced, what I put in my book in very simple words. And very simple explanations, but I was, I was jumping out of my chair, reading that [00:26:00] book.

I read in that chapter saying, wow, that's, he's saying he's confirming what I observed or experienced or what am I am suggesting just through my own exploration. 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Beautiful. Okay. Miroslav asks, will this planet ever be free? Will souls who stay here ever be free? Hi 

Isabella Greene: Miroslav! I don't know about that because there is it's specifically set up to run this system.

So I think as long as you are within this dimension, then that dimension keeps existing. And it keeps running the same system that, it was set up to be. So I don't know, there is the whole idea of the new earth or the split reality where we have the fifth dimensional earth. Is that from my perspective, the fifth dimensional earth is in the astral plane, right?

Or right on that [00:27:00] Within that kind of periphery, so it will be a little better, but there is still going to be some sort of a matrix, system there, too. I think everything past, 6th dimension is where, we start experiencing more liberation. So will this planet ever be free? Okay, you can s Stick around for another million years and find out, or, or you could do the practices now and find out and, and if it is free in, in half a million years, then you will know and you will be released, but you can get released much sooner if you do your practices.

That's all that's required. Not much is required, not much else you can do really. So Miroslav for being on this call. Beautiful. 

Kara Goodwin: are you familiar with Michael Newton? Patty's asking if that No. His work aligns at all. 

Isabella Greene: Okay. I have no idea. I don't, I'm not a reader. I started reading, autobiography of Yoga Yoga's [00:28:00] Autobiography of the Yogi after people started asking me if what I teach and what I share is create yoga, and started asking me about the yogic practices.

And I, I knew yoga practices, but I didn't know where they come from. And so that started. In 2023, between 2014 when I started going into, the quantum field of information and 2023, so nine years, I did not read anything at all. So everything that I put in my book is based on my personal experiences, my own spiritual exploration.

So that's the answer. 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah, so interesting how it does retrofit with things that have been out like autobiography of a yogi is 100 years old, you know, so it's like, yeah, the fact that you can go back and be like, wow, oh my goodness, this is what and Michael Newton's, his work is interesting, because he does hypnosis and talks about life between [00:29:00] lives and things like that 

Isabella Greene: through fascinating.

Okay, yeah. And I'm being told by David Icke's followers that what I teach, actually, David Icke himself wrote that what I teaches is straight out of his books and I've never read any of his books. So it's, it's really a great validation on one hand. On the other hand, it just shows that there is a universal truth that a few different sources are tapping into sort of different ways.

And I'm one of those. Right. 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. That's amazing. Juan is asking for confirmation that it's the technique of exiting that determines whether you enter the astral or outside of the astral? 

Isabella Greene: I think so. I think that it is the technique of exiting that determines where you land. the way I see it is that if you know how to operate [00:30:00] your non physical form you learned it Like riding a bicycle, right?

But while you're alive, you're still dealing with returning to the body and dealing with the body in and out of the body But then the body dies But it's the same exact process and the same exact technique. You just wouldn't need to do your breathing because, the breathing would stop. So you get to know yourself and operate yourself as a spirit form or while alive.

And you can operate that In any circumstance, if you are able to do it while you're still alive, you're most definitely going to be able to do it. once the body lets go, it's going to be even much easier actually. All right. Then plus it takes away the fear of death because you experience in the mini death.

Get out of the body, come back, get out of the body, come back. You experience the mini death like [00:31:00] every night. So it's really, it really is a wonderful practice. It has a lot of, a lot of different benefits, but, On this, for this particular subject, that's something that teaches you what to do once your body let go of you finally.

Yeah. Wonderful. Oh, and that was just recently, in a documentary which is coming out in Great Britain, I think this summer, Learning to Die. And that's what they, they are talking about, they had me talk about that too, so, yeah. we're now learning how to, do this, something that has been taught for us to never look at.

Wow. 

Kara Goodwin: I love it. I'm sorry. I'm probably going to not say your name correctly, but John Johnny, asks if there's anything that they can do to prepare for your retreat. 

Isabella Greene: Oh, for my retreat? No, nothing. Just, make sure to, and thank [00:32:00] you for coming to the retreat. just. Show up and we'll take good care of you.

we're going to have a conversation. I'm going to answer your questions. I'm going to teach, I'm going to teach you the, the breath work. We'll practice the breath work. And then, my co pilot Viola, will take us on the cosmic journey right there with her magical abilities to, play with sound and facilitate vibrational, background for us to have our experiences.

And while we're doing, while we have that, I'll also do the energy work, Samira. Samira just had a question, had a session with me, and she experienced something that's very close to, Kundalini awakening, right, while I was doing the activation. And I'm going to be doing this kind of energy work for everyone as a group at the retreat as well.

So we are, preparing a really rich offering for you. And I don't think anyone can handle more than [00:33:00] four hours of that. That's going to be more than enough for you. So I look forward to having you. Yeah. Can you give 

Kara Goodwin: some logistical information in case people aren't familiar with this? 

Isabella Greene: Yeah, they can go to my website, Isabella Green, oh, I could never get that, I could never get that right, that, that thing right there, Isabella Green dot, oh, there, there we go, right, Isabella Green dot com, and under events, there is all of the information and how to pay, and, that's on May 26th, we start at noon, go till Friday.

Four in the afternoon, pretty much nonstop, a very, it's an intensive and it's, it's the, the name of the retreat is Leaving Density. The idea is to facilitate an experience for you that will take you as close as possible to tapping your toe in the possibility of your [00:34:00] liberation as a spirit. So we'll see how it goes.

Oh my 

Kara Goodwin: goodness. That sounds divine. I have a wedding that day, which I'm also looking forward to going to that wedding, but I would love to do that. So I hope 

Isabella Greene: you do it again. Yes. Yeah. I'm, I'm, considering to, start doing this regularly every couple of months. So we'll see. Oh, beautiful. 

Kara Goodwin: Okay, good. So Scott asks, are there different levels of Cobra breath starting with basic and getting more advanced?

And in addition to Cobra breath is shadow work also needed. 

Isabella Greene: Oh, yes, for sure. Oh, that great point. Yeah. So, yeah, there are different levels of cobra breath for sure and different traditions have different, variations of the cobra breath. There is like Sufi cobra breath, there is, Egyptian cobra breath, there is a yogi cobra breath, and I don't know any of that, except what I know.

I just know, I know different variations, and I will share whatever. Options that I know that are available at that retreat [00:35:00] and, that I know of, but good point there because at the beginning of you, once you begin your cobra breath, it is a psycho spiritual, it's a psycho spiritual technique, it's going to show you Your subconscious and it's going to show you everything that you don't wanna look at, and it's gonna come up to the surface.

I cried like a baby for the first three years, but I wasn't doing the meditations or the, and the, practices in the night. I was just scraping, clearing out my, my subconscious and the traumas and all of that. It comes up. You become more sensitive. You become more triggered. You, and for that, being more triggered, being more sensitive, it literally points to where your healing work is, where your inner [00:36:00] work is.

So it's an assistance to you and you also are bathing yourself in the higher consciousness. Once you've gone through that, you are in the higher consciousness. so it helps to clear your traumas without going to much else except observing them and having the intention to release them. So that's a very powerful tool for the shadow work.

that's all I used in my shadow work. And I still do still once in a while by now, by the way, here's the, here's the silver lining, your ups and downs and the wobbles and all that. And the emotional stuff, all that calms down significantly as you continue doing this practice or you continue looking at your, unhealed or your traumas.

the conditioning and then you process it and then you come out of your meditation with a different choice [00:37:00] and you start practicing that and then you observe that reality gets easier, handling things is easier, you're not triggered as much, you're not like this, fine stretched nerve all the time because of all the trauma, because the cobra breath, you're at the beginning of the practice helps you clear your, subconscious space and it shows it to you really, really well.

You actually going to become aware of a lot of stuff. You will remember things. For example, you know how you wake up in the morning and you don't remember your dream. Right, if you do or you just wake up to do your meditative practice to do your cobra breath at 3 in the morning And you just had a dream and as you woke up, it's gone Well do the breath are you going to remember your dream right there and you're going to remember a lot of other things And that's the benefit of that [00:38:00] because it helps you clean the slate so that you you Emotionally and energetically more prepared to that purity of, everything.

So yeah, great question for real. And for everyone who is embarking on this journey, so everyone who is starting to do this breath work, that's important to know. There you go. Yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: that's a great question. And thank you for the way that you frame that too, because we can, when we start to see these things that are triggering or, you know, terrible memories, or it might even feel like, Oh my God, this is in me.

it can be like, wait, something's wrong. And. I don't like this, but you frame it as this gift and it's showing you and it's guiding you and 

Isabella Greene: and people, some people freak out and they say, Oh, like it's, it's making me worse than I was before. It's making me, I dunno, unhealed, right? No, it's not.

It's showing what you are not able to [00:39:00] see any longer. Because it's so deeply hidden in your subconscious, but it awakens these parts of the brain in you that hold these records and energetically holding these records and it's been shown to you and you can freak out and say, Oh my God, this is making me worse and blame the practice and all that.

And that's a victim right there. Or you can sit with it and say, okay, what is being shown? and what am I gonna do about it? And how do I now prefer to handle myself and respond to these kind of situations and see myself and what kind of relationship I want to have with myself at this point? While I'm no longer a traumatized child, and I don't want to run my, mechanisms that I created when I was six and eight years old, any longer I want to be the conscious human being who knows, and makes a conscious choice about how you want to be.

So, [00:40:00] right there. That's, yeah, that's a side effect of this practice and it's, it's an incredible benefit. So you don't need to do the shadow work before the practice. The practice will make you do the shadow work. Yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: it all goes together. That's beautiful. Miroslav asks if you've visited Shambhala, that is being mentioned in ancient scriptures as a place of peace.

Isabella Greene: I have seen that, but there was a while back, 2013, in 2013, in one of the meditations, when I, mmm, I, maybe 2014, actually, when I just started doing this practice in the middle of the night, I was doing a lot of exploration of places, and I remember this Kind of dark starry road that led to, Uh, seemed like a cathedral, or like the buildings, something, but ethereal, like the, [00:41:00] the space of, like a light city, alright, and that, and, and just floating right in there, and experiencing that incredible level of peace.

I remember, experiencing that. so I did see that once. I wasn't fixated on, that location, but I did visit that one time, that when I just started doing my practice. 

Kara Goodwin: Mm, I love that. Okay, Johnny asks, what are the main differences between quantum and astral realms? 

Isabella Greene: In astral, you have beings, places.

and it, it is a lot like heavenly realm that we hear about, and it's a lot like darker, dimensions that we hear about. Not a lot, that's what it is that we hear about. And It's a lot like Earth. [00:42:00] It reminds you of Earth plane or it is the invisible layer of the Earth plane where you have plant and animal spirits and you have lower dimensional spirits, the dark dimensional spirits, the upper astral spirits, the different levels of spirits that live there, including the discarnate souls or the souls that are in between lifetimes.

and then, that's maybe where your son is, by the way, that lady whose son passed, maybe he is in the astral plane. I'm pretty sure if you did not go elsewhere, then that's by definition where everyone goes. So, that's the astral plane. It is somewhat familiar, if you, if you wish. the higher realms, the quantum realms, The quantum dimensions or the quantum plane that I talk about, I call that the [00:43:00] void.

a lot of people call it the void, the black void, the field of omnipresence, the space of, primordial, the primordial field, the fabric of reality that does not have anything at all in it, or it has sometimes the some consciousness, and that's already If we, if we take it a hierarchy, then let's say that's the fabric of everything and below that, not really below because it's not a space, but if we want to visualize that for our linear mind, so below that is the space.

Um, semi formed beings of the light of the higher consciousness of the places past the six dimension and above. And it's a very different feeling to it. It's completely peaceful. There is no such thing as like [00:44:00] astral wars or any sort of, discomfort, distress. It's, the main difference is that state of incredible level of peace that is indescribable.

and perfection, perfection and peace, if you wish. And there was a question I noticed if I'm going to start doing online what I'm doing in my retreat. That's in the workbook. And, it's just one of me and a lot of different requests and a lot of different, things that are coming on my plate all at the same time.

I'm right now booked, uh, all the way through halfway through 2025, by the way. So, uh, the second book is coming too. And, and, and, and, um. Struggling finding time to write it, but I'm just writing down all of the ideas that are coming in. So, yeah, I am planning to start teaching online, doing pre recorded courses, maybe, or pre recorded workshops that you could [00:45:00] download and purchase on, My website that needs, needs a different website, and so it, it's in the works, yeah.

The demand came faster than, than, what I was ready for, but I am doing my best to catch up right now. So something to look forward to for those who are not able to attend in person. Wonderful. 

Kara Goodwin: Sonia says in, in Buddhism, Samadhi is enlightenment. Is this the same as the Samadhi that you 

Isabella Greene: described?

Samadhi. It's the same Samadhi all across, the same, the same word, there are different levels of Samadhi, there are different levels of experience, and that's, There are levels where you still have some brain activity, where you still experience these, like, faint presence of your mind. Um, but you are in, in the field of omnipresence, and, um, Your [00:46:00] body is still breathing a little bit, and everything, all the functions slow down, um, but there is still some of you there.

And there is a next level where none of that is present, there is complete silence and you completely dissolve. And there is a next level that I just experienced, in December, where I was Able to, I was able to stop the breathing. And the heart beat and the brain, the mind. So I was able to completely, um, disconnect or completely leave the body and go into that state of Samadhi that is called Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

That does, you don't have any humanness. or self left [00:47:00] in that space. And that is the most incredible, liberated state of freedom. Anyone can imagine peace, silence, perfection, love. No, you cannot describe that. That's the dao, that's the DAO that, allow lousy is talking about and, and aching. And, so there are different levels.

These are the three that I've experienced and that I, I can talk about because that's based on what I have experienced. Um, but the yogic teachings give all different levels of Somali to, it is enlightenment. It is technically enlightenment because you get to see first hand the experience of the fabric of everything.

The fabric of reality, God or spirit or the primordial field or whatever you want to [00:48:00] call it, but you're changed forever. One time is enough to be changed forever, but you don't have to have it only once. I just worked with someone who said he experienced that once and was right in that way for 10 years, but not doing anything to To experience it again, and then it just like wore off, uh, because of all of the earthly stuff.

And that's what's gonna happen, but you can have it every night. Doesn't happen, no, doesn't happen to me every night, but happens to me regularly enough. couple times a week, a few times a month, and that sustains you beyond anything, anything else on, in the earthly plane. So yeah, different levels of samadhi, enlightenment, uh, is the same thing.

Beautiful. 

Kara Goodwin: Anastasia asks, so if this barrier shield exists around, only around planets that are part of a 3D matrix, does [00:49:00] this mean that when the planet moves to higher dimensional frequency above 5D, the barrier shield disappears? 

Isabella Greene: That logically means that, yeah, I would imagine that because, the, that grid or that, uh, some say firmament or, or that glass ceiling around each planet that is within a certain dimension, um, That is only a part of that dimension.

So while you are between three, probably below, but I only know between 3. 1D, right? Third dimension all the way till 4. 9. And, and the fifth dimension is a gray area. I'm not gonna comment on that. But past that, you're not, no one needs. To keep you in that space anymore. So there's no, [00:50:00] encasement of any sort anymore.

Yeah, that's, that's correct. 

Kara Goodwin: Thank you. So for the cobra breathing, is there music that you recommend? 

Isabella Greene: I get the music, from Barry Goldstein. Barry Goldstein is, has fantastic meditative music on his website. And that's all he does. and you can go and look that up. and it's available for purchase.

There are some of his Like you might have like an entire album that is just that. All you need to do is just take that album and play it. And there are pieces of music that he offers that are 15 minutes long, which is perfect for the length of the cobra breath that you're doing at the beginning of your practice.

So you put that song at the beginning and you do in 15 minutes of breath. And once the song is over, you know that you can, can be done doing the [00:51:00] breath. And then you just. And he has these really long pieces of music, as well that you can listen to and compile it together, make a playlist for yourself so that it's a no brainer and, and don't stream it while on, on, on the internet, just download these.

So you have it in the device. So you don't have to have your internet on while you're doing your practice. that's what I recommend and, yeah, his music is, is something that I've been using.

Kara Goodwin: Am I right in thinking that during the Cobra Breath we may experience 

Isabella Greene: thoughts? Yeah, yeah, at the beginning you will experience thoughts, but what what the cobra breath does is If you keep doing it, so just you as you start you will have thoughts Three minutes into you haven't thoughts Six minutes into you haven't thought.

Fifteen minutes [00:52:00] into your brain is so saturated with all of the fluids and the energy that you're bringing into the brain with this practice is that Very often it blacks you out. No more thoughts. So it's It's a technique that helps to shut down the thinking brain. That's, that's another benefit of that.

Okay. 

Kara Goodwin: Wonderful. in what dimension would we find God as in God is not in this dimension?

Isabella Greene: that's, that's the question that is, not possible to answer, because there is no such thing as

God dimension, or, or, what dimension, what, you want me to say, oh, a nine dimension, or eight dimension, a 22nd dimension, or whatever, all these, like, new age BS [00:53:00] stuff bringing us, no, you know, what you, you The experience is the God dimension of like the field of omnipresence. That's what you experienced.

You experience when you're doing this practice and that's it. That's your, that's your final destination right there. 

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. Maya asks, do our relatives Is that 

Isabella Greene: Vaughn right there? Yes. Oh, thank you for joining. I did not expect you on, on this, train of thought at all. Oh, my love to you, dear friend.

It's a friend from, still from New York City from like life, life, a long time forgotten. Oh my goodness. 

Kara Goodwin: I love that. All right. Thank you for joining. So Maya asks, do our relatives on the other side remember us or [00:54:00] do they get reincarnated and mind wiped? 

Isabella Greene: It's an interesting, it's an interesting thing, because even when they do get reincarnated, there is some aspect of them that continues to interact with us.

And don't ask me how that works, I don't understand that myself, but I have talked to, souls, relatives, uh, sometimes in sessions, people ask me always, like, what happened to my father? I haven't, I want to get a message from my father, for example, who died like 15 years ago. Usually the souls are pushed back into reincarnation cycle within like three, four, five years.

So they're back in the reincarnation cycle already, and sometimes they tell me this, I reincarnated already, I am this 15 year old boy right now in, I don't know, Idaho, my name is blah blah blah, or they don't give a name and just say I'm, [00:55:00] I'm in this family in these circumstances, but I'm sending great love to my son and here is the answer, to his question or here is the message for him.

And how that works. I don't know, because it's simultaneously that the soul can be reincarnated elsewhere, but still have the love and presence and guidance for the loved ones from the previous lifetime. Hmm. 

Kara Goodwin: Oh, that's, that's fascinating. Beautiful. Do you have time for one bonus question? 

Isabella Greene: Of course, it's a, yeah.

Okay, 

Kara Goodwin: because this is, I think, I think you'll like this. Um, Iwan asks, I recall you saying that there are many realms that have reincarnation traps. Assuming that we were once free slash not imprisoned in this realm, what is to stop us from becoming trapped in a different realm once we free ourselves from this one?

For example, ignore all distress calls from any realm you're able to pick up. 

Isabella Greene: Well, I think that is [00:56:00] something that you as a soul will decide for yourself, because again, when I do personal sessions, this question is often asked, like, why did I come to earth? Why did I, why did I do this to myself?

Right? So, very often the answer that comes is, oh, you wanted to explore? You wanted to have an adventure. You felt that you were strong enough to handle whatever circumstance. You didn't think you were going to get stuck. Or you didn't even have any idea that you were going to get stuck. Or you answered the distress call and you had this notion that you want to go and assist.

So Whatever you decide for yourself as a part of that bigger, structure of your soul, wherever you land after this incarnation, that's going to be up to you. I don't [00:57:00] have the answer to this question, except here's the, here's an idea. The Ascended Master, Ascended Souls. Like Jesus, for example, right?

He had a choice. He had a choice to come in and get out. And he's not hanging out in the afterlife dimension greeting everyone. That's, that's the, that's the handlers, simulating him. But ascended Master Souls, as far as I understand it, have a choice to come in and get out. What we're teaching here, what we're sharing here, what we're learning here, is how to get out.

So, if you have learned how to get out in this, super dense simulation situation, then just Bring that into the next one if you end up in the next one and do the same thing. So that [00:58:00] could be something like a useful tool to have, in case you find yourself in another simulation similar to Earth plane.

Kara Goodwin: I love that. It really brings a quantum perspective in terms of like, are there aspects of us Already who know how to do this too that we can like draw into, you know, nice kind of thought experiments, you know? 

Isabella Greene: Yeah, and if we, if we take it to the next level and say that everything that's happening simultaneously and their expressions of you in higher dimensions and there is, all is one is really the banner for, you know, We are all the same energy made of the same energy the same fabric of reality Then there are all kinds of levels of that right of awareness that we can draw upon into this body vehicle, [00:59:00] but this body vehicle is like a Freaking fortress to get through to right like there's that and you're knocking and you're shaking the bars of your cage and you're trying to get through and it's not working so for it to work even for you to draw upon your karmic gifts let's say stuff that you learned in the previous incarnation um or Stuff that your soul knows as a multidimensional being somewhere else, right?

As you multidim what your multidimensional soul knows as a being somewhere else. Or what's written in the quantum field, that is, knowledge available simultaneously to everyone at the same time. Without any, um, linearity right there, all knowledge available all at the same time in this space that creates and sustains the world.

But to get to it, you need to do some [01:00:00] Kriya Yoga. To get to it, you need to do some Raja Yoga. You need to control the computer brain right here. Uh, the, that. Plugs you right into the matrix, and that separates you from everything that you know as a soul. So, right back to square one. Practice every day, do, do your stuff, and have a strong intention, and approach it from a perspective of curiosity.

Playfulness, uh, ah, what might happen tonight, you know? And just, and just, uh, go ahead and do that. And I think you'll be on the right track then. Beautiful. 

Kara Goodwin: Thank you so much, Isabella. This has been such a rich discussion, and thank you everybody for all your questions. These have been incredible questions and, um, really so grateful to everybody.

Thank you so 

Isabella Greene: much. Thank you for [01:01:00] showing up. Thank you, Kara, for holding space and making this possible. And thank you, everyone, for exploring and being the fellow sovereign soul, ideally, in the long run. Lots of love to you all. 

Kara Goodwin: Thank you so much. Bye, everybody. Bye.