304. Grief & The Sacred Process of Pet Transitions - Maribeth Decker

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 Hello, and welcome to the Meditation Conversation, the podcast to support your spiritual revolution. I'm your host, Kara Goodwin, and today I'm joined by Maribeth Decker. Maribeth is an intuitive animal communicator, medical intuitive, and energy healer, and she's the founder of sacredgrove.com where people and pets heal and connect.

Kara Goodwin: She works with pet guardians who dearly love their animals yet. Face tough issues. She uses her intuitive animal communication and energetic healing skills to address animals', physical, emotional, and behavioral issues. 

You're going to really love this episode, particularly if you're an animal lover. And I know many of you are. Recent guests like Reverend [00:01:00] Karen Cleveland and episode 2 81. And Lisa, totally an episode 2 91 created a lot of chatter as listeners expressed how much they love that content. I always love to hear from you. So thank you so much to those who did let me know that. And in this episode, we talk a lot about dealing with the transition of our pets out of this life. Which is such a difficult and important time. And we also share stories about how pets who are about to enter our lives, have shown up in dreams. And Mary Beth shares ways to help further develop your own intuition to deepen your connection with your pet. So we'll dive into that in just a moment. First, I want to introduce you to a fantastic service. I've started using that. I'm really excited about. Quantum upgrade delivers a high frequency quantum field into your life to harmonize your energy balance, your body boost performance and shield yourself from harmful EMF frequencies. It's a scientific researched back way to bring much Nieto [00:02:00] quantum into your life. I've really noticed a difference since I started using this. It's simple to use, but it's not so easy to explain. So use the link in the show notes and get your free seven day trial to feel it for yourself. I'm so excited to experience the cumulative long-term benefits. That we talk about in the recent episode that I had with the CEO and founder of quantum upgrade. So use the link in the show notes and try quantum upgrade for yourself and now enjoy this episode 

Kara Goodwin: So welcome Maribeth. I'm so happy to be with you today.

Maribeth Decker: I am very excited to be here. Thank you so much, Kara.

Kara Goodwin: why don't we start by talking about this intuitive work with animals. how did you get into this?

Maribeth Decker: I love this story. I've told it so many times, but it's just so great. the bottom line is my animals, my dogs, I had dogs at the time started communicating with me, and,I had decided do,[00:03:00] Some massage, I start to learn massage, and then took some, courses in energy healing, including reiki and, somewhere along the way, my dog Timmy showed up as I was cooking dinner for the kids and he had passed. So I gotta be very clear about that.

And he's sitting in my room and he looks like he's there. It's not like

Kara Goodwin: And okay, so you're seeing him with your physical eyes, just like when he was 

Maribeth Decker: Yes. Yes.and I don't, that doesn't ha I wish it happened. I think I wish it ha it would happen more, but

Kara Goodwin: you're like, like, be careful what I wish for. I don't know. Do I wish for that

Maribeth Decker: Yeah. I dunno. It's a friendly dogs I love. Yes. But it was like he was sitting right there looking at me. Thank you for making sure I'm clear. Andhe's such a cute guy. He had one ear up and one ear down, just

like when he was alive. Big grin, tongue out. And I, my eyes went from the stove to the dining room and I said, Timmy, and then he was calm.

Kara Goodwin: Wow. And how long had he been gone by that [00:04:00] time?

Maribeth Decker: Oh, let's see. He'd been con, let's see who was in the house by that time? Let's see. Oh, probably a couple years.

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Maribeth Decker: been a while. And so I really attributed to the energy work that kind of opened something up for me. And maybe they, I believe that probably many of our animals have been waiting for that opening. And I just got to have that with him. Can I also have to say this about that split second connection I knew he survived death, I know I've known this to be true for many animals that I've contacted. Um, he was happy, he was delighted and thrilled, and took the time to come back and tell me all this.

Kara Goodwin: Oh.

What a good guy, but I don't think that's abnormal. I think that says a lot about animals in the afterlife. Wow. I love that. it's it's amazing how difficult it is.[00:05:00] to have a pet pass. if you're not an animal person, I think that people think like, oh, your dog died. You know, oh, that's too bad. But, you know, it's not like it was a person. Yeah. And it's so, it can be so heartbreaking.

I remember when my Lucy, my dog Lucy, died about five years ago, And I just was amazed at how much space she took up energetically, because my house isn't tiny. It's not like I live in a one bedroom studio or something, and we're always tripping over each other type of thing, but. I just felt like she was missing everywhere.

Like everywhere. It was January and I had to open the windows because I just felt like I had to, like I needed stuff to move in. I needed, like, I just needed. Air to come in. I just felt so, almost so much like [00:06:00] pressure in reverse, I don't even know how to say it, but it was just like, she just took up so much space and it was, energetically, and it was like, Like it.

I've lost a lot of pets, you know, just because I'm middle aged and I've always had pets and it's just so heartbreaking. So what a gift that he came back.

Maribeth Decker: I know exactly what you're saying 'cause we lost, um, we had five two cats and three dogs last year, and three of them left two dogs and a cat left within five weeks.

Kara Goodwin: Oh my 

Maribeth Decker: So,um, I say don't ever tell anybody, you know,get over it. It's just a dog. It the kind of relationship, those of us who have with our, that had that with our Our animals. It is so spiritual. It's not funny. There, there is a connection that although we strive for it with our humans, lovely people,

we get [00:07:00] a, we get that connection so much more often with our animals.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Right, right.

Maribeth Decker: The, yeah, the joy of being together. The joy of, Just hanging out, watching 'em to do fun stuff, doing fun stuff with them.

Kara Goodwin: . Yeah. It's really like, it activates a different part within us that is difficult to reach. Any other way.

Maribeth Decker: That is true. That is true that because I believe that, they exhibit many times. It feels like unconditional love

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Maribeth Decker: we strive for that as humans, but that doesn't happen very often, or as often as we'd like. Okay. We try, we do,

 animals do a pretty good job of it.

Kara Goodwin: Right. 

Maribeth Decker: Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: So tell us What do you mean by animal communication?

Maribeth Decker: Thank you for asking. Um, for me. It is a telepathic connection between my, I will say, my mind and [00:08:00] the animal's mind. And when people hear that, sometimes they think that it's all words. But if you think about the brain takes in information and. Processes it in many ways. So you can hear, you can see, you can smell, you can touch, you can feel. So for me, the telepathic communication can include all of that, and so that somehow we can send information and we can receive information it's not coming through. Our open eyes generally ,not for me. it, there's the brainwaves, what one might call it some, there's an electrical connection you could call it as well. and so it's receiving and sending of information, without using cues from the physical world, like you don't have to look at 'em, you don't have to touch them. I work with somebody who was, when I started, she was in Switzerland, she's now in Thailand [00:09:00] and her dog is in Canada and I am in Virginia, the US

Kara Goodwin: Oh wow.

Maribeth Decker: So it doesn't matter 'cause we're, and now she and I are talking over Zoom, but you can Sure. I am not talking to the dog. Over Zoom.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Maribeth Decker: we're doing a telepathic connection.

Kara Goodwin: And so what is that like for you? You mentioned all the different senses and that it's not necessarily like words, but how would you receive communication from, let's use that example of the dog in Canada, um, with the owner in Thailand. So what is that like? What, how does that change from your normal thought patterns when you tune into that dog?

Maribeth Decker: I don't, I never know how it's gonna come through. so I'm open for what comes through easiest generally for me is probably emotions and physical symptoms, like the feelings that come in the body. But there are also visuals that may come through if you ask a question. I ask a question,[00:10:00] how are things doing? How are you doing with your, he's living with her aunt and uncle and I see the shore, I see the dog walking by the shoreline and very happy, and I find out that they live by a lake and I feel the happiness and it's like, yeah, I tell this woman, he's happy, he's doing well with them. Other times I will hear words, uh, some visuals. Let's see, what else? and I'd say feelings. So usually it's feelings, visuals, words, and sometimes it's a knowing. I think a lot of people have experienced that, where they just know something to be true,

and they can't explain it any other way. So that's another possibility.

That and comes through pretty often with me.

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. . Yeah. so can anybody do this, I guess is the first question 

Maribeth Decker: yes. Thank you for asking. if you heard my story when I told you that I, the kid, I think I was in my, late forties or early fifties. So I [00:11:00] figure if, my joke is a naval officer, retired naval officers can do it. Anybody can, because people wanna text about that. And I'm a retired naval officer. Uh, but more truly, We are all wired for telepathic connections. Uh, it's just tuning in and figuring out how to receive and notice what we're getting. And the other part is I believe our animals are already doing it. have you ever had your d dog or cat just stare at you?

Like, why don't you understand what I'm telling you? I can't

yell it any louder.

Um, so the answer is, that was a long answer for Yeah, we, you can, yeah, you can learn

Kara Goodwin: so how would somebody go about, learning about how to do this?

Maribeth Decker: I, you usually find somebody to help you learn somebody who's already doing it, like I teach at the Uconnect class. And, you put in a situation where you get you received [00:12:00] information. for your logical brain. 'cause your logical brain has to come on board or else it's always saying, you made that up. You already knew that. That's ridiculous. So you That's my way of, teaching. You have to bring in stuff for the logical brain, and then you do practice with either your own animal or with other people's animals, usually. Usually you have to do that in a group setting, and that's why There are teachers out there, me included, that teach people how to connect with an their animals or connect with animals in general. so it's practice and knowledge, and then you can begin to get trust in yourself.

Kara Goodwin: That's great. What would be, do you have any like basics or low hanging fruit? If somebody wants to explore this?

Maribeth Decker: Yes. Thank you. Yeah, I do. What I've noticed is there's like a Really useful equation that works for for a lot of people. and this isn't the sharing of [00:13:00] it, so I will try to talk about listening, but the sharing is if you can visualize in your brain, like of memory, it doesn't have to be eyes open, something you wanna share with them, and then, You imagine that they're really getting it and you also maybe will think the words and then you'll have an emotion. And that is a great tool for sending I, I can give an example. my, my dog, Stella and Keyboard, they would rush the front door when people came in, they wanted to greet them. What I started to do is say, I, in my mind I would say we need to give people a little room and I show them they need to walk up the stairs to get in the house and I showed Stella and Tibor that it would be great if they jumped on the couch and it, now I'm picturing Stella jumping on the couch 'cause we're couch dogs on couches are fine.

So we're kids. And, um, Then the feeling of, oh, thank you so much. Now I can bring this lovely [00:14:00] person in. So I got the picture in my mind. I imagine I'm sending it to her. I'm using some words and I'm using emotion. I don't know, I'm putting my fingers up. I don't even know how many things it is. the way I knew that it worked, She would do it, and then she would look at me directly in the eye with the speaker and like, I did good, didn't I? I'm like,

Kara Goodwin: Oh

Maribeth Decker: did. You're on the couch. Thank you so much, Della. and so look for, and actually look for something that tells you they got it, whatever it might be.

Kara Goodwin: Hmm mm.

Maribeth Decker: Okay.

Kara Goodwin: I love that.

Maribeth Decker: And the receiving is the, is actually a little bit. Harder for a lot of us because you have to maybe ask the question and let your imagination give you that very first piece of information, however it comes in, and trust that's real. no matter what it is, I'll give another example. 'cause I think the examples are very fun. And useful. [00:15:00] this was a client I was working with and we, they wanted to know what the dog's, what are the dog's favorite things are. All of a sudden, I got quiet and I feel like I'm eating something white and chewy and it's sweet and it's not too big. I start describing it. In my head, I'm thinking, this is a marshmallow. I don't know. I have never met one dog that loves marshmallows. I said, and I just, so I described it, they said, marshmallows. I said, yeah, my dog loves marshmallows.

Kara Goodwin: Oh, that's great.

Maribeth Decker: So even if it doesn't seem to make sense,

Kara Goodwin: That 

Maribeth Decker: or do you think you already know at trust? Trust what you're getting?

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Mary Beth, I would love to know how did you go from being a naval officer to this work? It does seem to be a leap from one side of the spectrum to the other.

Maribeth Decker: Oh, wow. Yeah. That's a question I've asked as well. I think like all of us there, we [00:16:00] are intuitive and we don't even know it until we do. Can I say it that way,

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm. . Yeah, 

Maribeth Decker: I know right? When I was a kid, I had a spiritual experience, when I was in somewhere in middle school and I asked, God, if God existed and I had a, An experience. I didn't get words. I had an experience that was an absolute yes and it was a loving caring, intelligent energy that responded.

And so I put that away as like nobody wants to hear from it's 13 year old girl supposed to go to class and learn. You're not supposed to tell people this. Just shut it down. I believe that stick stuck with me For me, it was, my sense is that there are certain things that needed to be accomplished in my life before the intuition kicked in.

Again, I think that's the best way I can say it. people talk about bucket lists, so we may have things that [00:17:00] we need to get done. and that is the way I think that I had to, there were some things about being in the Navy that had, that were real important to my soul progress. and when that got finished, when I got an association, there was a certain point where, okay, you got that done, but there is more.

And then the, there is more is when my intuition came back and kicked in and showed up.

Kara Goodwin: Huh.

Do you feel like, um, I don't have a lot of experience with the military, so I just know from like, very surface level, maybe stereotypical things, but I think of like, , I imagine there's a lot of like programming just to keep people in line and so has that been something to overcome?

Like it just seems like, you're always being given orders. There's not a lot of like thinking for yourself, but with this type of work you have to be a lot more open and a lot more in the flow. So has that been any sort of hurdle for you or has that been [00:18:00] pretty natural?

Maribeth Decker: that's really

interesting 'cause I get that some version of that question a lot. Um, yes, there are rules and yes there are commands, at least my experience of the Navy and I think most military folks, I don't know. I hope a lot will agree with me. The more important thing is to get the job done and figure things out.

 especially if you think, now I wasn't on a ship, but here's the thinking. If you are on a ship and water starts coming in and you're in the middle of the ocean, you can't call somebody up and say, could you come over here and fix this, please for me, take it to Jiffy Lube or something. You gotta fix that thing right there and then. So people are, the best of the military for me is that they, we figure out how to get things done. And so there is thinking for ourselves, figuring out how to get things done, how to get 'em complete, how to meet a mission even in spite of difficulties. and please, I was not on ships, but this is the sense I got for them.

So maybe there is, [00:19:00] There may be something intuitive there where you go, what, where do we find a way out of this? What's the best way to move forward? the other thing that the military does, at least for me is I got to travel to many different places outside of the United States, and there was something about opening up my mind to so many different cultures and even cultures within the United States. I think there was an, at least for me, there was an opening of like, oh, there are a lot of ways that this world works,

possibly. those things supported my intuition.

Kara Goodwin: Oh, interesting. Yeah, I love that.

Maribeth Decker: Thank you.

Kara Goodwin: talk to us about animal transitions, because I understand that you specialize in animal transitions. we've already touched on the death process, so maybe we stick with that, but there are of course other . Transitions as you get a pet that's acclimating to the family and or [00:20:00] acclimating to a different family or whatever.

But what have you learned through your work about the dying process?

Maribeth Decker: Oh my goodness. so much. I think I'm gonna talk. First about our own grief, we humans,I rewrote my book piece of passing, when I realized that the transition processes wasn't when they were literally dying. It actually for us, that started when we got that tough diagnosis. Or we saw that they were really declining, like intellectually, we all know they don't live as long. But then you get the physical reality of it, and that's where our grief starts and our what ifs and our imaginings, and how are we gonna fix this Starts, so one of the things I do tell people, Is to remember that they didn't, the animal did not hear the diagnosis. And that's something that you are dealing with. I am not even making it smaller. [00:21:00] It's huge. But if we spend more of our time being there and enjoying the, enjoying our animal and enjoying. are just enjoying whatever there is to enjoy with them while they're still in their bodies. That is a good place to be. Um, I would joke that the animals say, I'm not dead yet. 'cause we could

 into the grief and the sorrow and the whole thing. And here they're saying, I can only walk five feet, but let's go take a walk. And, so where are you gonna be? You gonna be in your grief. Are you gonna say, okay. Yeah, let's go out. I talked about Stella. I would say, every day with Stella is a good day. So there's a mindset that we could bring into it along with our grief will bring a lot more happiness through the process. There were a lot of modalities that people could look into these days that weren't around anymore. So [00:22:00] I do talk about that too, because if you can keep them comfortable and happy and enjoying life, that is worth looking into whatever it might be. and then at some point, You notice that you're probably moving into the hospice place where you're just keeping them comfortable until it's time. and that you can always ask them if to let you know when they're ready. sometimes you'll just have that knowing. So I, some people choose to euthanize their animals. Some people choose to let them. find their own route out. But either way, you can keep an eye on 'em and listen to what they're sharing with you. I had one woman whose dog was getting pretty close and wasn't ready yet. She said, just gimme that look. And she said, one day she woke up and the dog looked her in the eye and she says, I just knew was ready to go. So we did a good transition.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Wow, that's, it's so hard. Oh 

Maribeth Decker: Oh, yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: can you share. Some myths [00:23:00] that might get in the way of enjoying those senior years.

Maribeth Decker: I had talked about this myth at the beginning of our conversation, but I wanna say it again, the myths that once they're gone, they're gone. they're not exalted enough to survive death, like humans are Like, they don't meet the criteria. and the other. Version of that I heard was that, that their energy just, the energy of who they are just floats up and goes back to creator and and the who they are, doesn't exist anymore. I have not found that to be true. I've been able to contact animals. they do survive death. And there is a personality there.

There's a, I would say a soul. for me, that's a truth. There's a soul. There's a energetic. Being that survives death. So that's a big myth.

I hope more people,

just go,and it causes so much grief. another thought about that is that, I don't think I've talked about this one too much, but they go over the rainbow and all they [00:24:00] do is play and have fun. I have met some animals who decide to do some good work in the afterlife, which is pretty interesting to me. sometimes helping other animals who are transitioning and, sometimes helping their people who did intuitive work here on the planet. They almost beca became One of, one of their guides or helpers, things like that. there may be more to the afterlife for our animals than we usually believe is possible.

Kara Goodwin: Hmm.thank you for that. And it's interesting to think of it from the relationship perspective that we have with them and like sole purpose, their purpose and our purpose. And. Because it, for some people, like you've alluded to this, where it's like, we try to do this with people, but it's so much easier with animals.

and of course every person is unique. So there are some people who just, they don't really pay attention to animals and they're probably not listening to this episode. So,but, um, [00:25:00] But if there are plenty of people I think, who do gravitate to animals and find it, like you say, it's so much easier to have that loving relationship with animals.

I see hilarious like t-shirts and bumper stickers all the time where it's like, tell your dog I said hi. You know? It's like, what? What does that say? That just says so much. Like, I pay attention to the animal. And second our people, And so what kind of teachers are they? If we're oriented in that direction where it's like, maybe it is hard to connect with a person, but then this animal comes in and it, the barriers are different and the person can let down their barriers, and maybe that's a stepping stone for kind of opening them up more and exploring more of

the inner workings of their love and their heart and their acceptance. that's huge.

Maribeth Decker: I think Yeah, it is. I think that there, there's always a gift in our animals particular. Beings [00:26:00] coming to us. I think it's, maybe that's another myth somewhere along the way is that it's just to have the coincidence when we pick 'em up. it's just random, but I don't believe it. I believe they picked us as well as we picked them. and that there is a gift. And there I think it is both ways. 'cause I think I, I believe we both have a sole purpose. And we're there for them and they're there for us. and my dog, Stella was, um, very good. I'm gonna say this on the podcast, at supporting my husband during,during a lot of years in our marriage.

And, um, when she came back to me, she said, and I felt, um, Chastised, but she says, I think you're grown up enough to be a good wife now. So I'm okay

Kara Goodwin: oh,

Maribeth Decker: I'm like, yeah, I've done a lot of work about, compassion and caring and

 for the guy. yeah. I'm glad that Stella, who,

Kara Goodwin: To have that reflection.

Maribeth Decker: yeah. So she was there to keep the connection. I hope, please don't judge me

Kara Goodwin: N no, of course, [00:27:00] of course. We're, I mean, it's actually, it says so much that not only have you done that work, but the vulnerability and the ability to own and be responsible for the version of you that, was that, that's, there's a lot of maturity in that,

Maribeth Decker: thank you.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Maribeth Decker: but the dog, the dog's like, yeah. Yeah. You're okay now. you can do it. I, you don't need me, 

Kara Goodwin: yeah.

Maribeth Decker: there with you guys. So that was

lovely. 

Kara Goodwin: That's beautiful. I love what you said too about, their role in finding us, because I remember with the dog that I have now, so my Lucy that I've mentioned earlier, had passed away and we waited a couple of months and, came back from vacation. It felt like it was the right time to look for a dog, and we're like rescue dog family, so we don't.

Yeah, you too. so I didn't, don't have like a breed that I, look for or a breed or whatever. So I was just like working with my, like the, with [00:28:00] spirit from a spiritual side saying like, can you make sure I get the right dog? Like, help it be clear to me who is supposed to come into our family and, One night I had a dream.

I can't remember if it was a dream or if it was just a visual, kind of like as I was falling asleep and I saw this dog with a black and brown face, and I was like, oh, interesting. Okay. Black and brown face night. I. I don't remember if I wrote it down or whatever, but I remember as soon as I got up the next morning, my kids were eating breakfast and I was like, you guys, I dreamt about this dog, this face, and it was black and brown and they're like, maybe that's gonna be our next dog.

I'm like, maybe, who knows? Well, then we did go on vacation and my daughter and I, while we were on vacation, we kept kinda looking at the . The rescue sites to see what was available and I was originally trying to find this dog and then over time, you know, it's like you just look at a few dogs and then it's like, oh my God, look at this dog.

[00:29:00] It's so cute. You know, it's like I just, back to the three D reality and, So I put that aside and was really like looking at the descriptions of these dogs and the pictures of these dogs and like whittling it down from what was available. And there was one kind of like big, I think it was, it was a lab mix and it was blonde and so we had, when we came back from vacation, we were, we were sort of zeroed in on her 'cause we weren't able to get a lot of information about, we thought she might be at this one adoption event.

And so I go in and I'm like going directly to the person I'm asking specifically about this dog. And they're like, oh, the foster family is gonna keep that one. So meanwhile, the rest of my family's off looking at the other dogs that were at this adoption event. And my son had gone to one dog, was like, mama, look at these.

And my daughter was off at another one. Look at these. And my husband was another place and . And all of a sudden, I was, there was one dog that, and it was black. It had a [00:30:00] black and brown face, but I didn't even remember about that. It was just the right sort of size and it was being quiet and it was super cute.

And, so I was like, what about this one? Like, can we look at this? And so we ended up getting that one. And it wasn't until we took her for a walk around the block, a couple of hours after we got home and I was like, oh my gosh. This is the dog. This is the dog I dreamt about. And would you believe it?

Nobody can remember that I had that dream. They did not even remember. And I can remember plain as day, they were sitting there eating breakfast and I'm like, I told you about this black and brown face. They have no memory of it. And I'm like, Dang it. at least I can know this. I've seen this dog's face before, but how beautiful that you know, and, and I loved that.

I had that amnesia for a while, and it wasn't just like this, oh, this dog looks like, so I'm gonna fit that into. You know, I'm gonna like twist it [00:31:00] and contort it until it fits what, I think is supposed to happen. I loved that it was like this suspended and I got distracted and then didn't realize until later, like, oh my gosh, this is the one 

Maribeth Decker: That is so

Beautiful.

It's so perfect. and I think, things transpire like the lab wasn't available because that she wasn't the right, sorry that she's not the right one for you. I also have a dream that happened for getting my nu if I can share it. 'cause

I love, love it. the night that my, the night before my dog, Tibor passed away and I think his, at that point, his soul had already left the body.

And that's pretty, that's another story, but I don't think that's uncommon.

 they leave a little early.

Kara Goodwin: I had a dream that t I know it's Virgil. Well, there's t

there is Stella.

oh,

Maribeth Decker: then,

uh, our Husky Mitsubishi had passed 10 years previously. I was walking with them[00:32:00] and Stella had already passed. Mitsubishi passed 10 years ago and Tibor is on his way out and we're walking around, there's a bunch of dogs just running all over the place and there's this building that's seems to be some kind of a recovery building, and all of a sudden they're running around and this little brown dog joins them and they're all running around, and I'm like, wow. What was that about? And so kindstory like yours, we started looking for another dog when we were ready. And, the dogs that we thought were so cute were not available. And then there's this guy that is, scared beyond scared.

he's the most anxious dog I've ever met. was something about him finally, and it wasn't the, it was like the second or third time we'd gone and we picked him up and I said, I think this guy's the one. And that was new. and I looked at him after we got home and we made our decision to keep him. And it said, this is the dog that, that the, [00:33:00] that my pups were bringing to me. And, What was so lovely is that newt's anxiety was so high that the people who were fostering him, out on a farm said they didn't think he was ever gonna get home to be home. And Yeah.

 we were meant to be. And it was just, it's been so lovely to have this guy with us.

Kara Goodwin: Oh, I love that. I love the parallel stories here with the dream time and yeah. That's beautiful.

Maribeth Decker: Dreams are good. So a lot

of times animals who've passed will come in our dreams because we're more open.

Kara Goodwin: We're just, we're there already, right? And Right.

Maribeth Decker: okay, so I gotta say, if you ever have a dream of when you're animals who has passed, or even who's still alive, you are having a con real connection with them.

That's not just a dream, that is something real going on. Don't push it away as your imagination. Just say thank you. 

Thanks for coming in.

Kara Goodwin: I love it. Mary Beth, this has been beautiful. Please tell [00:34:00] people how they can connect with your work.

Maribeth Decker: Okay, so I, the best thing to do is to go to my website, sacred grove.com. SS A C R E D G R O V e.com. and I have, I also have email maribeth@sacredgrove.com, and those are the best ways to get to know about me and, see what I do. 

Thank you. 

Kara Goodwin: And you mentioned your book,

Maribeth Decker: I do, I have a peace in passing comfort for loving humans during animal transitions. there is a link on my website, that's also available on Amazon as far as I know, a couple other places, but

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful.

Maribeth Decker: That's good.

Kara Goodwin: thank you so much. What a beautiful discussion.

Maribeth Decker: Thank you so much for this time. it's been great.

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