340. Mount Shasta: Vortex to Lemurian Civilizations and Inner Earth Cities - Reuben Langdon

Kara Goodwin: [00:00:00] well, thank you, everybody. Thanks for joining. Welcome to the meditation conversation. I'm your host, Cara Goodwin, and we're recording this with the conscious awakening network. So whether you're here with us live on zoom, or you're watching on YouTube or on the conscious awakening network, I Langdon.

Here with me. Welcome, Reuben.

Reuben Langdon: Hi, Kara. How's it going?

Kara Goodwin: It's going great. I always love spending time with you. I'm going to give a little bit of an introduction here as we get started. Uh, Ruben Langdon is an acclaimed actor, filmmaker and renowned stunt performer who has seamlessly transitioned his passion for storytelling into the world of consciousness exploration with a career spanning both Hollywood blockbusters and groundbreaking projects relating to consciousness and spirituality.

Reuben has a unique [00:01:00] perspective to reality. I'm continuously inspired by Reuben's creativity and ingenuity as a multifaceted artist and thought leader. And it's just a blessing to be with you, Reuben. Um, in case anybody's new to your story, can you start by talking about your journey from stunt performer and actor to becoming a leading figure in the field of, of consciousness exploration?

Reuben Langdon: Wow. Uh, well, thanks for that awesome intro. Um, yeah, I, I started, uh, let's see, when did I start my, my exploration in to stunts and, and, uh, sort of the action world and, um, uh, TV movies. I moved to Japan when I was 19 and, uh, reluctantly. I joined some modeling agencies out there, uh, be just so I could put food in my mouth.

Uh, it wasn't really something I was wanting to do. If you could say that way, it was just something that I could do to easily [00:02:00] make some money, uh, because there was a starving, I wouldn't say artists, but a starving, tourist, um, just trying to, uh, uh, emerge myself, uh, in the Japanese culture and, uh, soak it up because I had a passion for learning Japanese and martial arts.

And, uh, let's see, it was about, I don't know, six months into my modeling career when I got a, uh, an invitation to go to an audition for a TV show, which is sort of like the Power Rangers and that veins by the same folks out there in Japan. And, uh, I ended up booking the role of, uh, Mack Wendy, uh, I always call it, uh, the, the originality back then it was, this was in the, uh, nineties, mid nineties.

So it was a McDonald's and Wendy's the ultimate American hero. Um,

Kara Goodwin: Oh my gosh, that's funny.

Reuben Langdon: So they, uh, [00:03:00] combine those two, like, okay, Mack Wendy, he's our exchange student from New York. He's coming to help the, uh, help the Japanese guys beat up the, uh, the monsters. And, uh, so that was my role and it was a six month, Yeah. Uh, about six months to a year sort of, uh, I was a regular, not all the time, but I would pop in whenever they needed help.

I'd pop in and help fight the bad guys. And, um, and realize that I could, uh, do acting, which I was turning, which I was enjoying much more than modeling. It was more challenging than just, you know, walking and smiling. Um, and, uh, and using, you know, the language, learning the language. So I really learned a lot.

Of Japanese very quickly because I had to immerse myself in the scripts and learn how to read and um, and then act properly and make sure I knew what I was um, uh, You know reading or the scripts knew what I was going on to make sense of it all [00:04:00] and then um, And then I was doing martial arts. So I was doing my passion of martial arts, but in this different way Um, and I, I always say I would feel super blessed cause it was my, the first day of shooting was my 21st birthday.

And it was like a, um, a gift from the God, so to say, because, uh, I was on set doing my thing and I'm like, this is amazing. I'm going to do this the rest of my life. And, um, And for quite several years afterwards, to some extent, I was, you know, putting on suits, doing martial arts and acting and fighting for a good, you know, 20 years almost.

Um, after that, uh, from, and then moving into, you know, the stunt industry and in Hollywood and to motion capture with the video game work and then, uh, on Avatar. With James Cameron as Jake Sully's main stunt double and doing various roles as the Na'vi. So always moving, performing, fighting, uh, it was, [00:05:00] uh, a big, a big, uh, part of my journey.

And, um, and then it was while I was working on Avatar when I sort of had a UFO sighting, um, and that changed my, Paradigm rocks my world and redirected me into this other direction of, uh, exploration into consciousness and ETS and, uh, spirituality. And, uh, and I had a little bit of that with my martial arts background, uh, and, and, uh, studying in Japan and, you know, meditation is a big part of, uh, uh, the martial arts exploration.

You know, there, there's always a, an emphasis on finding the balance of the inner and the outer. Uh, and different martial arts, like Tai Chi and Qigong and Pagua. And there's other martial arts that sort of focus more on that work. That wasn't really my interest. I was more about, you know, I just want to look cool and kick ass.

So, uh, but I made that shift. And as I started understanding the, [00:06:00] the value of, uh, more exploration into those inner practices and how it correlated with, uh, Consciousness exploration, uh, then I, I changed my emphasis and started doing breath work and more internal, um, internal martial arts. So that's, that was, that's a super rough nutshell of beginning to now.

We can go into any details you want.

Kara Goodwin: Yes. Well, I thank you for, for giving us that background and I do want to encourage anybody. You're welcome to ask questions. If you want to raise your hand, feel free to do that. Um, I was, I'm curious about, you know, that's about the evolution, the evolution of your work and your beliefs, um, because things have changed so much and they're changing so fast and I've, you know, I love your work and, and I've noticed, you know, just the evolution and, and, um, how things change.

And I noticed this within myself too, you know, the things that I'm focused on change [00:07:00] from. Year to year moment to moment. I don't know. Um, so, um, are there things that you can share about what's become kind of less of a focus compared to a few years ago or more of a focus?

Reuben Langdon: Yeah. So, you know, the, having that sort of visual E.

1. or UFO experience, you know, at that time I couldn't say it was E. T. or not, but sort of going in that direction, assuming that that was, that was the direction of what, what I was experiencing was E. T. related. So I started really diving into that E. T. exploration and trying to unpack all the information that I could and digest as much as I could from different, uh, sources.

And in the beginning I was, uh, more focused on the evidence based stuff. So, uh, like I, I produced in 2013, I produced this citizen hearing on UFO disclosure, which is a free now on, on YouTube. Um, you can just type in UFO disclosure, citizen hearing. [00:08:00] And, um, and that was a five day mock congressional hearing in, uh, sort of, um, In Washington DC sort of an activist movement to push Congress to do the right thing and And hold official hearings which they finally last year started doing So that was really the beginning was just trying to figure out the nuts and bolts like the physical the the spiritual part was pretty much You know, I had a little bit of, uh, you know, I was doing meditating and, and Qigong and that was when I was starting my internal journey more going in that direction.

Um, but I was still fascinated with this external idea of ETs. And then of course, uh, I started then talking to channelers and there and what they were bringing through and the different entities that they were bringing through. And then having tons of interviews and conversations. My show interview with Ed, uh, is now three seasons.

And, uh, now I'm doing the membership and the podcast. [00:09:00] So it's like a weekly thing. And, uh, just always constantly, um, exploring, exploring, exploring. And during that evolution, um, Um, I go back to this famous saying that Bruce Lee had, uh, and I remember this and it hit me hard when I was still, you know, in my early career, uh, in Japan, um, acting and doing He said, um, you know, a kick Is is just a kick a punch is just a punch and that's sort of when you first start the martial arts um You you're thinking about the punching and the kicking and you want to do it, right?

And you're like, it's just a punch It's just a kick and then you do a punch a thousand times a day You do a kick a thousand times a day in your training and you're kicking you're punching you're kicking you're punching You're trying every which way to punch and kick and punch and kick and you're learning all these techniques Okay, there's this way there's that way uppercuts and you know roundhouses and this and stuff And you do everything a million or a thousand [00:10:00] times.

And at the end of the day, a punch is just a punch, a kick is just a kick. So you, you go through this evolution and now that I've been that, through that with the, uh, uh, ET exploration. And looking and trying to identify all the different ETS and this race and that race. And what are the archetypes of this?

And how does that influence this and hybridizations and Zetas and Draco and you know, the whole lot, um, at the end of the day, it's just, they're just ETS. Um, You know, it's, we overcomplicate things. Um, and that's part of the journey, you know, is to really dissect and understand and, and get into all the nitty gritty, but really at the end of the day, what matters is just the basics.

So, um, unconditional love, uh, compassion, um, forgiveness for, to others and, uh, and doing the self work. Like at [00:11:00] the end of the day, it's just comes down to that. So you can go into all these rabbit holes that you want, but, um, it really simple as best.

Kara Goodwin: I love that. You know, something I don't hear you talk about.

I know your work pretty well. I am actually in your membership group that you mentioned. Then I've been in for, I love to support your work and I get a lot out of that community. Um, you don't talk a lot about Bigfoot and I want to know why, what, what's your beef with Bigfoot? No,

Reuben Langdon: you don't have

Kara Goodwin: a curiosity about it or I've missed it.

Reuben Langdon: You probably missed it. I do have a curiosity. I actually am talking to a couple of people who channel Bigfoot. So we're, we'll, we'll have those guests on soon. Um, but

Kara Goodwin: projecting into the future then I guess.

Reuben Langdon: Yes. Well, my last, you know, we didn't get into the Bigfoot conversation as much as I would like, but my last.

Two weeks ago, my guest, uh, Matthew Bueno, he actually [00:12:00] really, um, encouraged me to explore the Bigfoot because he's had many interactions. We talked, I think we talked briefly about it a little bit, but, uh, uh, he calls it the Makia, Makiada, I think is in, in, in, uh, his tradition. That's what they call them.

That's

Kara Goodwin: right. I did hear I, cause I, I listened to pipe. I'm not all the way through that one, but I, I do now that you're saying that I do remember it. So I take that back. I have heard you, but please continue.

Reuben Langdon: Yeah. So, you know, I've, I've had, um, Sort of one big foot experience with Matthew. Um, we were in, in Shasta.

Uh, he's got a, uh, a song that he sings for them. He had drum. He's, he's amazing. Just, uh, we did, he does sweat lodges and just an amazing, uh, sort of medicine man, shaman. And in, in, in his tradition, I think it's Lakota is his tradition. Um, and He, uh, brings through the energies of, of the Bigfoot, the [00:13:00] Maquillada through his drumming.

So, um, whenever we do C5s and he's there, I'm like, make sure you, make sure you do, you know, bring, bring them in and we want to bring that energy in. So definitely I, I, I love their energy. Um, but yeah, it's, it's just something that it's not. I guess I'm more because I started on that galactic path of going out into outer space and thinking about ETs and the different races.

So it was not a, on my radar as much. And then now that I am with my research sort of coming back to earth, so to say, um, we're, uh, they're definitely on my radar. So I'm looking forward to exploring more of, of, of them and who they are. And my understanding based on the, uh, Bashar material, but it's sort of, Uh, other material starting to support this is that they are us in a sort of parallel reality in the evolution, which is a different version of Earth, much like sort of the Lemurian story and other [00:14:00] stories where, uh, and fairies and these types of other things where there was sort of a, split in evolution.

So, uh, there's a template overlay on top of earth that, um, we can connect to. And we are, as we're going through this Ascension process, we are moving, um, uh, closer to their frequency. So the bridge is being built in a sense. So in certain energetic spots on the planet, uh, out in the woods, and that's why you always sort of see them out in the woods is those.

Uh, those portals, those, uh, ley lines and those energy vortices are more conduit congruent for, for bringing that inner, those phases in. So that's why they kind of phase into our reality and then they're gone. They're in and out.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Cause it seems like they can just disappear, like appear out of thin air and then disappear and people think that they see them go through portals and things like [00:15:00] that.

Well, it sounds like, but you ha you did have a sighting. Yeah. Yeah.

Reuben Langdon: Well, uh, I had a hearing, let's say, um, so during our, um, our, um, ceremony we were doing, we were, this was when I was filming this, uh, project around the crystal skulls. That's kind of went away. But, um, the, uh, we had, we had bill in the skull there and we were in this sacred spot in, in Mount Shasta.

And it was interesting cause as we're walking to this spot, um, Which is actually going to talk later. It's going to be that spot is going to be, uh, one of our go to spots in our workshops for, um, the limbering life expo coming up. But as we were walking there, there's still snow on the ground. So you couldn't see on the ground, but there's apparently there's a, uh, a mandala, I think on the ground.

Anyways, we walked in it. You could literally feel there was like a, uh, And I'm not super energy sensitive. I'm just, this is, you know, the energy sensitive people. Like I still have not, I [00:16:00] never felt anything from the crystal skull. And I know a lot of people are like, Whoa, you know, they get blown, you know, we call it skull Alaska.

They're getting blasted by the skull and going, you know, going nuts. Um, so I, you know. Several years hanging around Bill and that I never never felt that but um, but this time we walked into this area And it it was like going through There wasn't fog, but you could feel almost a physical tangible like shift in Energy as we walked into that area and I remember going.

Oh This is this something just we just walked into something different here and it was really unusual and then we start the ceremony Matthew's beating his drums and then we're hearing knocking in the trees They like to knock on wood on the trees like duck duck duck duck like kind of like a woodpecker sound um, but Uh, matthew goes.

No, that's that's the macchiato Uh, they're out there and then I could hear breathing. [00:17:00] Um heavy breathing like, um, You Kind of like an old man, like, uh, that may be a little congested,

or, you know, a bigger, heavier set person might have a little whiz, whiz, whizzy kind of breath. And I could hear it. I'm like, Oh goodness. Okay. Let's stay focused. So that was my first experience of, I guess, kind of having them close enough to experience that. Um, again, I was filming, so I didn't really, I wasn't too you I wasn't able to sort of go in inward and feel their energy and all that stuff. But I just, I love the stories. Matthew's got great stories, other people and their stories.

Willow, who's going to be one of our guests at the, um, uh, limiting life expo. He, he's had some, he has some fun stories with them as well. So.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. He's got all kinds of stories. That's so cool. So that was in Mount Shasta. Yes. And you're going [00:18:00] to have your Lemurian Life Expo. Is that Lemurian Life Expo, right?

Yes. That's what it's called. Yes. Yeah. And. So I'd love to know I maybe you want to talk a little bit about why Lumeria like why that's the focus of it. Why Mount Shasta and you know, tell us about what the event will be like.

Reuben Langdon: Yeah. So during my exploration on my show, uh, you know, I've been. Gone down many rabbit holes, uh, talking with many people.

And I kept getting this poll and this call to go to Mount Shasta. Uh, the, the, there's several channelers and, and people in that area that, uh, I that, that I kept getting suggestions to, to interview, uh, like Ca Adams and, um, brige and Jules with the Stargate. And then Aile, uh, also was on my radar and he. He does a lot of work up there with Pregreet and Jules.

He's not far. He was in the Bay Area. So he, he takes trips up there. So,

Kara Goodwin: and you, you do a lot of work with Heather too. Who's up there now. Yeah. [00:19:00]At

Reuben Langdon: the time I didn't know Heather. Yeah. Okay. So Bill was, uh, staying with Heather, um, and, uh, doing Crystal,

Kara Goodwin: sorry, Heather Taylor. Yeah. Yeah.

Reuben Langdon: Uh, and she's, uh, one of the producers on the event.

And, but at that time I didn't know her. And, uh, so things were sort of. Uh, this was after COVID had hit, everybody's trying to figure out what, what's going on. Um, you know, at that time, this was 20, summer 2020. So there were riots in Portland. There were fires across California, uh,

Kara Goodwin: forgot about that. Oh my gosh.

You're right. Wow.

Reuben Langdon: Yeah. And we were just trying to, everybody was, uh, um, trying to figure out life, you know, what are we doing here? By that time, I kind of knew things were a bit. The virus was not really what they were telling us. So I had enough information on that, uh, for the trip.

So I wasn't afraid of going out, you know, that I think at that time we were still kind of in lockdown. Um, [00:20:00] but I, I hopped in my car, drove, started driving up north with my buddy, Steve. And, uh, and the mission was sort of, okay, we're gonna, we're gonna go meet Bill and do some skull stuff. But at the same time, I want to get, I want to understand and find out more about this story of Telos and Lemuria.

And, uh, and it's, that's when you start diving into Mount Shasta history, that's a big part of, of that area. And, and that, um, the energy in the mountain in Telos is sort of this idea that there's a inner earth crystal city, uh, that humans or Lemurians, ancient humans still live, which sounds so fantastical.

And, uh, and it is, it is quite fantastical, but, um, Uh, as you dive into it, you realize, oh, that they don't mean like physical humans like us, this is a, again, going back to that sort of template overlay of like the, the Bigfoot, this is an alternate [00:21:00] timeline reality where, uh, human evolution went a different path and they're sort of in a, in their version of earth in a sense.

So if you go digging into the mountain, you're not going to find this inner city. Unless maybe you hit the right spots and you're in the, you know, vibrationally, you're a vibrational match for what that's, Energy, uh is around that city and then perhaps you can experience that and that's what that's what a lot of people Come back with so people go to the mountain to meditate or uh hiking and then they you know, there's tales on my show I had uh, lol johnson who who Claims that he actually went inside.

He was invited inside the mountain, you know, was that an actual physical invitation, which he perceives it as, but, or was it more of a meditation, you know, astral projection? It's hard to say. That's where these things get a little, a little dicey went with the, the technicals [00:22:00] and the exacts. I like to keep it very abstract.

Uh, And that way we can all instead of yes, this happened. No that happened. Let's just go with it Yeah, let's say astrally. Let's say astrally it happened. That's not hard to um to imagine and And many people make the same claims Similar claims of having connected with these tall, uh, mostly Caucasian looking people, uh, about, you know, seven to, you know, seven to eight feet tall, nine feet tall, and, um, And they all, and there's this inner city of, uh, sort of run on crystals.

Um, and they're very advanced in their spiritual evolution and they come from this timeline known as Lemuria and. So I got, as I was meeting the different channelers and talking to different people in the, in that [00:23:00] area, uh, I was, that story was sort of unfolding for me even more and more. And then diving into more of the galactic, uh, um, beings that come through the channelings, uh, through the other people that I've had on my show, they all speak of this.

this ancient time where humanity, uh, was a little more, there was more, more of a feminine energy. It's sort of before the fall. If you hear those stories of, you know, the fall of humanity, the fall of, uh, uh, Babel and these types of, um, heavier, uh, stories in our, uh, in many different texts. But before that, There was this more feminine oriented energy that was more coherent and sort of peace on earth was, is, is the way the story goes.

And many, uh, cultures talk about this from the Maya to the Hopi, uh, and then many, um, sort of Polynesian cultures, Hawaiians, um, the Maori, and others have [00:24:00] the same tale of this ancient land, uh, Mu, uh, this continent, uh, sort of positioned in the Pacific that existed, and that is where people lived in harmony.

And, uh, Uh, and then you can go so that's in the sort of the ancient text and cultures and passed down through story Uh and indigenous teachings so that you have all this sort of correlation of that Uh, and that's this what telos really represented Um, was this idea that when Mu was, was, uh, sort of full going, there was, it was not just one big city.

There was many different colonies all around this continent and, uh, they were very connected, interconnected with trade and, uh, it seemed to be a very peaceful civilization. And they were very telepathic. They were more sort of fourth in my show. We talk about different density levels of consciousness fourth density fifth density Different than [00:25:00] dimensions a lot of people talk about the 5d Uh, you could probably correlate fourth density with the fifth dimension So if people are familiar with that idea of the 5d that that's pretty much it Probably where the, these, this civilization was existing in, they were very much heart centered and, um, interacting with each other from, from the heart.

So, uh, very peaceful and, and trade and all that stuff was happening. So, uh, they sort of, uh, this group, this Telosian group and many others, uh, sort of caught wind that, Cataclysms were coming, that shifts were happening, um, that the, the fall is coming basically. And they were in a sense warned and took refuge into the lava tubes of Mount Shasta.

Uh, and I'm sort of paraphrasing a lot of different, Storylines, a lot of different people sort of share this story in their own unique way and the details might be, uh, a [00:26:00] little different based on the different people. I'm just sort of the collective body of evidence that I've been able to tap into. I'm sort of summarizing that, um, and giving you that story.

But. So it's my understanding that the telosian group went into the mountain the cataclysms began um so they just stayed inside the mountain and then using crystalline technologies They developed their spiritual Aspects of themselves. So in a sense they they continued on this path of evolution from 5d onward so they uh, um in a sense You Became their own, uh reality their own sort of timeline separate from from our reality Uh on earth and that time that was sort of when the that that fork in the road happened for them um And then you hear tales of Of Shambal, uh, and the a gartha [00:27:00] networks like, uh, from Tibet and, uh, Machu Picchu, you know, where these civilizations sort of disappeared, the Mayan civilizations, the ma where did the ma where did the people from Machu Picchu go?

So the, these are all, from my understanding, um, connected to this network of, uh, spiritually evolved civilizations or beings or groups. Uh, communities that were able to, uh, hold the frequency while the frequency around our frequent, you know, what we've been sort of observing from our history is sort of, uh, a different version of history in a sense where they were able to hold that frequency and then stay there now.

So there's still. they're still thriving, the civilizations, they're still doing their thing. There's they're contacting with extra terrestrials or extra dimensional forces, um, and energies, and there's trade and, um, uh, spiritual, uh, sharing of [00:28:00] spiritual, uh, evolution. Um, and. So this idea of Lemuria that I, I'm, I'm very excited to sort of dig into deeper around Mount Shasta and bring people to that is, is one to share the story.

Um, and because it gives us sort of an idea that there was something more than us just, You know, evolving from this dark place where, you know, uh, we all came from apes and whatever, you know, the traditional story is, this is sort of a, a different, uh, version of our history, uh, which may resonate with people, may not, whatever, it doesn't matter.

Um, but it's a different, it's, it's an option. It's a different version of our reality that we can, um, we can, uh, choose to explore and then find out, okay, what, what are the, what are those aspects of that society and that reality that. Perhaps we can integrate back [00:29:00] into this because it's my belief that we all have that Memory that collective memory in our dna.

We're part of that Lineage, uh, all we have to do is reactivate those sort of turned off dna, uh switches and Turn those back on and then uh, and then explore and have fun. Why you know, why not if it's If it if it doesn't resonate that's fine But if it does there's no harm in going down this path and exploring, um, these old ways in a new way, if

Kara Goodwin: that makes sense.

I love that. Yeah, that's great. I do want to remind everybody, you're welcome to raise your hand, or you can type a question. If you have a question for Ruben, you can type it in. If you don't want to come on and ask yourself, um, Ruben, I know that you've had some magical experiences yourself in Mount Shasta.

We talked about Bigfoot. I know that there was also, I remember a story of, um, [00:30:00] Somebody like when the car got stuck in the snow, and I'm in so it's not really around telos, but it does seem to just highlight the magic. I know Judith was saying in the, in the chat to she loves Mount Shasta and can't wait to go back, but.

So maybe she's also, you know, encountered some magic there. I've never been there. And, um, and I would love to come. I'm, I actually, our family vacation is during that time. So I won't be able to make this one, but maybe you'll do it again.

Reuben Langdon: We hope to, if this one's, if this next one's successful, we're planning to do it yearly.

Kara Goodwin: Oh, good. Good. Um, but it seems like this really magical place. I don't know. Do you feel like sharing that the story of the the port?

Reuben Langdon: Yeah, it's it's I'll try to do a short version. Basically, I this was our this was a couple years ago. One of our last rounds. We were Uh, filming this, uh, project with Bill and the Skull.

And, uh, Steve and I, another road trip back [00:31:00] to Shasta. We were kind of doing this, uh, pretty regularly at that time. And we arrived, uh, pretty tired. Uh, so Steve ended up staying back. Um, but I, that, it was literally, I think, the next day. The day we arrived to the next day, we arrived pretty late in the next morning.

It was like, okay, let's go do this thing. We're going to go to the, uh, there's a part of the mountain, I think it's called Onyx mountain. And there's like a crystal Lake or something. Anyways, there's, um, uh, Onyx. Um, depositories of, uh, where you can literally find these, uh, amazing. Onyx crystals. And that sort of the mission was to go there.

We were going to take the long way around. Uh, we found out there was a skull cave, um, on the other side of the mountain. It's like, yeah, let's take the skull to the skull cave, you know, and then let's go on the mountain and, and, and get some B roll and, and just explore. So we're sort of doing this journey.

It was myself, uh, Heather and, uh, her [00:32:00] husband, Ben. Yeah. Uh, who are both, uh, part of the producing team for the, um, uh, Luminary Life Expo. And, uh, and Bill and his, uh, ex wife now, they're back together. I don't think they're married. Maybe they are.

Kara Goodwin: They did get married. They did get married.

Reuben Langdon: All right. Sweet.

Awesome. Congrats to them. Um, so they, uh, uh, and they were in the car with the skull. So we're just driving around doing this thing and, uh, it's getting late. We're running out of gas. We're Um, the nearest gas station is quite far. So we were like, okay, let's see if we can take the short way home instead of going all the way back around the mountain because of the snow initially.

And this was, I want to say late May. So late May, my TV, my, it's my Apple or something. I don't know what's going on. Um, so, uh, we were starting to go try to go the short way back home because we were low on gas and time. And it's getting dark. And [00:33:00] we're going through these snow bunches and it was a four wheel drive, but, um, some places, the snow was really thick and we're kind of getting stuck.

I'm like, okay, can't go this way. Let's back out. I had my drone. I popped it up and I was trying to get, see if there's a clear way. And we ended up, um, trying this one way and, um, And, and some, some of these snow patches have been kind of floored it, and we would be able to get kind of like glide on the top and get through it.

Um, but this one, he, he went and we went about halfway in the middle and then it just, It just stuck. And then he tried to put in reverse and then it stuck and then front and back. And we were, and then we were sinking because the snow was melting like, okay, well maybe we'll, but anyways, it was, it was fixed.

We were stuck and we were trying to dig the car out with sticks and stuff and it just wasn't happening. So, uh, We kind of hunkered down and we're like, okay, what are we doing now? [00:34:00] It's getting late and there was no reception So we couldn't make any calls. So we were just trying to figure it out and Ben said well, I volunteer I'm gonna go get I'll try to find a signal and see if I can get help so he takes off and then We're all you know, sort of hanging out just In the car telling the story, several hours have gone by been still not back and we're like, we're starting to get worried.

So Heather and I

Kara Goodwin: was just wearing like jeans and

Reuben Langdon: yeah, he had

Kara Goodwin: something, right?

Reuben Langdon: Yeah, he had like holy jeans and a, and a hoodie and a t shirt, uh, and it was below freezing by this point. Um, And, you know, we, even though we had a little bit of gas that we would turn on the car, warm it up and then turn it back off, you know, just to stay warm in the car.

Um, and, and it was okay. We had like water and we had supplies, so we weren't going to starve to death and die or anything like that. But, you know, it was a [00:35:00] little scary, you know, for Cath to, it was not, uh, um, It's something that she's used to doing, getting stuck in the middle of a mountain. Uh, uh, you know, so we're, we're, we're, it's, we're in the middle of nowhere.

We've have a magical crystal skull in the trunk and, um, and a bunch of Onyx that we just grabbed from Onyx Mountain. And we're like, unload the Onyx. Maybe we're not supposed to take it, you know, like unloading the Onyx. Trying to see if that'll help us get us on loose. Uh, so Heather and I, it was like, I dunno, by one o'clock in the morning or something, Heather and I said, we need to go look for Ben.

Like he's been gone a long time or, and we need to get a signal ourselves. So we go and we're walking for about two hours. Uh, and then we get to a place where there's a split in the road and we're like, okay, did he go this way or did he go that way? And, and we're trying to, you know, like Heather, calm down.

She was. Quite worried about ben and I you know did a mountain lion get him, you know, what's going on? There's all kinds of things. So [00:36:00] I said tune in which direction do you think he went and uh, she said well, maybe left maybe there I don't know. She couldn't tune in. She was too scattered and I was like, okay.

Well, let's go left. So we went left and um, and then uh, there was some some signal Uh, I think an owl signal is, and I said, yeah, let's, let's go back because by this time we were now thinking that Kath and, and Bill are going to be worried about us now, you know, we're adding to the, to the worry factor. So we decided to go back.

And, uh, as we're walking back, um, you know, the whole night, Heather's like seeing, hearing things in the woods and she's used, you know, telepathing, all these different things. And then I see out of the corner of my eye. Uh, a quick flash, which for whatever reason, uh, cause I, I've, I'd seen a fairy before in, in, in big bear actually, uh, at the, uh, I have God, you, I think I told you that story.

Kara Goodwin: [00:37:00] Well, I saw them with you at my CE5 when I was with you, we, we, all those, um, the woman who does the sound bowls.

Reuben Langdon: Yeah. They were

Kara Goodwin: behind her. Do you look tall? Yeah. Do you remember? But they were all behind her. Oh

Reuben Langdon: yeah. Little flash. I remember my eyes were closed and I remember seeing flashes and stuff.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

That was, that was amazing. So that

Reuben Langdon: kind of energy. Right. So I'm, so I see that corner of my eye and I'm like, Ooh, very. And I stop. And Heather's like, Oh, she was kind of surprised that I saw it too. She was seeing them. Um, and we stopped right there to sort of, See what was going on I have night vision goggles that I carry for c5s and I pull them out and i'm like trying to see You know look for the berries and then all of a sudden our phones go off We're like messages are coming through and we're like what?

Uh, and it was just this one literally this Five, six foot radius spot on the road where we had reception. It was just like a tiny bar. Um, and if we hadn't stopped there and we just [00:38:00] walked through it, wouldn't, it wasn't, wouldn't have been enough time to, for the signal to catch in. So we're there and we're like, Oh my God, we got reception.

Great. So we started making calls. Trying to get ahold of Ben. We weren't able to, but, uh, we were able to call for help, let people know where we were and, and then we got ahold of Heather's daughter who said Ben had called, um, and tried to get some help. Um, and it was actually Matthew, Matthew, who was on the show a couple of weeks ago.

Um, and he had, apparently he, he was coming to, to help, but then he got stuck in the snow. So he went back, something like that. That was kind of what, it was hard to get. here, it kept breaking up. So we're like, okay, whatever. At least they know we're stuck on the mountain. And then, uh, apparently the Rangers, they don't come until the morning.

They don't do work at night because it's too dangerous and they'll get lost too. So we were like, okay, well at least we, we let people know. Um, we [00:39:00] still don't know where Ben is. Okay. Let's, let's just go back to the car. Cause otherwise we're going to. Um, uh, just make people worry. So we went back to the car.

Um, Heather's still kind of upset because she doesn't, she's not able to, to know where exactly where Ben is, but she's tuning in. She's like, okay, he's okay. He's okay. And then. I go back out again to that spot. So it's another hour plus hike to get to that spot and I'm running there now trying to get reception again.

Um, and then I make a call and by this time the sun's coming up and, uh, Steve answers, uh, I'm able to get ahold of Steve. And then I'm telling them our situation and he goes, yeah, hold on. Hence the phone. And then, uh, Ben's voice is like, Hey, Hey, Ruben, how's it going? I'm like, what, where, where are you? And he's like, I'm, I'm here with Steve.

I'm like, how did you, okay, we'll figure that out later. And, um, he's like, yeah, I'm going to, we're going to get [00:40:00] shovels and we're going to come and get you guys. And I know where you're at. So, uh, Ben and Steve came to our rescue. Uh, apparently, uh, Matthew did, uh, come, start to return back, but then Ben called Matthew and said, uh, Hey, Matthew, I'm where you were just at.

How Ben knew that? I don't know. Ben said he saw these tire tracks and for some reason he just knew those were Matthew's tire tracks. I'm like, how do you, okay, whatever. And that place where Matthew got stuck, we sort of looked at it on Google Maps, and the way the only it was a, um, 12 hour walk or more, 16 hours, I think, from where we are to that spot, we've mapped it out.

And Ben said he would sometimes he would jog a little bit to keep warm, but he wasn't running and all the time. He would like jog. Pick up the pace a little bit. So we were [00:41:00] like, there's no way, uh, possible that Ben could have gotten from where we were to that spot in that amount of time. Um, so we, and, and he's, he feels like he said it was a very weird night, you know, he's walking alone and he said he was looking at the stars and some of the stars.

Yeah. Would change positions in some ways it was very just odd the whole the whole situation was odd But for him to get to that space in that short amount of time was just humanly impossible You know, we were like, okay some something magical happened where ben got teleported to that spot where? uh, um Where Matthew was and he somehow magically knew that those tire tracks were Matthew's and he was able to get enough signal to call Matthew and say, come back, come back to the spot where you just said, like, okay, sure, you know, Matthew ended up getting stuck and said, forget it.

I can't do this. We're going to have to go back [00:42:00] and wait till the morning until it's light and figure out a way. So that was sort of this adding to the magic and the mystery of, of what happens around Mount Shasta.

Kara Goodwin: Oh my goodness. It's, it's amazing. I mean, it is so magical. And are you, did you say you're going to do a CE5 at the, at the, We're going to, we're going

Reuben Langdon: to be doing two actually.

The first night will be, uh, sort of just a, uh, a low key. This is everybody's invited. Everybody who comes to the conference. And, uh, it'll, it'll be more of a, just a meditation skywatching kind of thing. We're going to do the next night. We're sort of doing a more intense workshop version, uh, more of what you've been through with the breath work and, and, uh, the connections.

We'll have a smaller, it's a smaller group, so we can do that. Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: Okay. So, um, in case anybody hasn't heard of CE5, they may not know what we're talking about. Um, so maybe let's just start. With that.

Reuben Langdon: Okay. Yeah. C5. It's a, [00:43:00] it's a term coined by Dr. Stephen Greer, close encounters of the fifth kind, uh, which you have, there's different stages of, uh, I think it was originally, uh, J.

Allen Heineck, um, who was famous for project blue book, Uh, back in the day as a researcher worked for the Air Force and studying the UFO phenomenon. Um, so he sort of coined this term of close encounters of the third kind which became a movie and and there's actually Uh a character in in the movie based on on him Um is uh sort of contact, you know, there's Sort of the physical evidence based, uh, or, or sightings, I think a CE, the close encounters of the first kind would just be like a sighting.

Close encounters of the second kind would be some sort of physical evidence left behind, like a footprint or, or a craft print in the, in the soil or, or a, uh, some sort of, uh, like radiation signature that [00:44:00]comes from some of the craft. Um, that would be sec, close encounters of the. Uh, um, second kind close encounters of the third kind is, um, where, where you interact with the beans, um, or they, they contact you and, and you have sort of a, an interaction, uh, and I think fourth, I forgot what the fourth kind, perhaps that, that may be where you're taken under the ships.

Uh, and then the fifth kind is human initiated contact. So, um, so what we, what we do is we kind of sit in a circle and meditation and we use intention and meditation to call, call them in to bring, bring them to us in a sense. Um, and, uh, most, you know, especially nowadays in the early days when I first started doing these, I, I went to Steven Greer's event in 2010.

And started venturing into that world with him. And, uh, it was kind of hit and miss, you know, 50, 50, we'd, [00:45:00] I'd got to Joshua tree and sometimes we'd see something, some most, a lot of times, not whatever. Um, nowadays it's, it's quite often, we'll have some sort of, something will happen. Uh, at night you were there, there was a lot going on that, that night.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. I can testify. Yeah. So I joined you out in big bear for CE five. That was what, two years ago maybe.

Reuben Langdon: Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: Um, and we've already talked about the fairies that we saw and, um, because they're, because LaTal was doing this amazing sound, uh, singing bowls, crystal singing bowls and, um, and you were leading meditation.

And yeah. So a lot of it is actually, and we did breath work, um, like you mentioned, but a lot of it is very inward, you know, with this kind of, and in fact, we have our eyes closed a lot of times. In fact, I was trying to think this morning, I think I've done three with you. Oh, wow. Okay. [00:46:00] And the last one was Suzanne Ross's, uh, that's

Reuben Langdon: right.

You were there.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. In, uh, in the fall. And they had some guides there who were, you know, from Sedona and they, this was in Sedona. The first one was in big bear and they were, uh, so the guides were like, not really doing the meditation so much. They were looking in the skies and they said later, they're like, Are they going to open their eyes because there's like so much going on up here.

And we were all having, well, a lot of us, you know, having like inner experiences, but on big bear, um, I know I had a massive, like visual, it was really deeply moving. And I was like weeping, which is really uncharacteristic. And I've, I shared this, um, only once, I think on the podcast with Caroline Corey. Um, but I.

What I saw this, um, it kind of reminded me, you just, [00:47:00] you mentioned earlier jewels and.

Reuben Langdon: Uh,

Kara Goodwin: yes.

Reuben Langdon: And the Stargate.

Kara Goodwin: They do the Stargate and they make these Stargates that have these like, uh, metal, you know, but they're kind of intricate, but, um, very geometric. And what, and I, I hadn't seen those yet, but then when I did see those, I was like, Oh, that's sort of like what I saw.

But it was this, like these thin gold lines in a geometric shape. And I was like, Weeping and weeping. And, and you guys are like, are you okay? What happened? I'm like, I don't know.

Cause I had no like reference point for why it was so moving for me. I still don't really know. It's still pretty mysterious, but, um, yeah. That was, that was amazing. So, but that was a completely inner experience. And then we were seeing lights in the sky and, and things like

Reuben Langdon: that. So when I started doing contact with [00:48:00] Lisa Royale, who actually used to be part of Stephen Greer's original, um, C5 team, and then she started branching off and doing her own thing.

That's really, when I started understanding the value of contact work in, in a inner healing. Type modality, not just so Steven Greer's, you know, he likes to, to go out and see the lights and talk about the nuts and bolts stuff, which is, which is great. You know, I think that it's a great entry point to the phenomenon and to people who are curious and want to see the, you know, just to confirm that.

That the phenomenon is real and and there is a consciousness connection You can we can sort of make that connection and and call them in but with lisa in her work It's more about the inner journey than it is about the lights in the sky uh, and it is a Um, and what what you soon realize when you do this work is that it is connected the more you go in the deeper You go [00:49:00] in the the more connections on the out you can make um and In you know just studying Basic philosophy and yin and yang and sort of understanding how polarity works.

That's it all makes sense. So It really is this deeper inner journey And then not having expectations or attachments to how it shows up in the in the outside. Um, reality uh, you know the more we can go deep inside and create a safe space for For for us and that's essentially what I see the contact work in is as we're making these connections to these higher dimensional beings in a sense where, uh, triggering traumas that may be stored in our, uh, in our body.

So almost like a psychedelic experience where if you, or shamanic experience where you, where you take a shamanic medicine, whether it's ayahuasca or, you know, mushrooms or, [00:50:00] uh, or, um, Or just going on a shamanic journey through through drum work or a sweat lodge or whatever, you know there's many practices out there for with indigenous teachings and things so Uh, and what they what they're doing is a sense They're trying to help you look at things in your past, you know store traumas that end up manifesting themselves in the physical and that's why we go see these medicine people and these healers to to help us move that energy through and um And when we release that energy, you know, things, you know, our body heals and then things in our life start to go a little bit smoother.

A lot of those things are blockages, points, uh, points of, of, uh, areas in, in our lives that, uh, become stagnant because of a belief, because of a, Uh, many different reasons, but eventually it goes. I think it all goes back to belief. But in the contact work, we're sort of [00:51:00] doing the same thing. We're inviting, uh, higher dimensional beings, uh, and energies into our field.

And it's a, it's a healing experience. Um, but during that process, uh, stored traumas and, and, and pains and things will get triggered and get released. And that's where the fear kicks in. And that's where, you know, a lot of, uh, emotions, um, come through the deep, Deep emotions that maybe haven't been felt. Um, because we're allowing these higher frequencies to come into immerse around us.

And in that process, uh, we have to look at ourselves in a sense, or look at aspects of ourselves that perhaps we we've been hiding or holding back on. Um, and once we release that, that baggage, so to say, uh, those traumas, Or those attachments to those, whatever created the traumas, uh, then, then [00:52:00]we're able to better frequency match these higher beings and make those connections in the physical.

So then that allows them to show up, uh, in a safe space, uh, so we can have that experience. So a lot of. Contact work is very therapeutic. It's not just about, Oh, I want to go talk to ETs. That's of course, that's the motivation, but when we, when we understand the mechanics and that we are immersing ourselves in this unconditional love, uh, and making these connections, then a lot of positive things can happen.

Kara Goodwin: I love that. I know for me, it was less of a trauma or it felt less of a trauma release and more like a remembrance, although it was like a recognition, like whatever I was seeing, I recognized it on some level, even though I couldn't remember what it was, it felt like some kind of technology or there was some sort of, but it was very, very personal and very like [00:53:00] deeply meaningful.

Um, yeah. But again, just like completely in my inner eye, I feel like though I could, there was a point where I could open my eye, I still could see it, but it did go, you know, it lasted, I can't remember how long, but, um,

Reuben Langdon: yeah,

Kara Goodwin: that was, that was amazing. Um, Judith asks if you have to do a lot of hiking to get to these special spots on Mount Shasta, do you know?

Reuben Langdon: The Mount Shasta, the whole mountain is just such a sacred. There's a, uh, Asara was talking about how, when she first moved there, it's like a 50 mile radius around the mountain that you can feel when you just get into the vicinity, there are specific points all around the mountain where people have done ceremony, uh, and, uh, uh, sacred, um, secret ceremony or healing and these types of things.

So I think where those places are, uh, those energetic, the energy gets built up there. So you, you know, the [00:54:00] portals are a little more perhaps, uh, opened in some places more than others, but I, it's really just that whole vicinity of Mount Shasta is just like a giant portal. So I would imagine, Um, you could, you could do the C5 anywhere.

People all the time are saying they're seeing ships go into the mountain and come out. Uh, and you know, people who live there, uh, yep. Give thumbs up for that. Um, so, and, and same with big bear. Yeah, there's, I, I, I. I do a lot of hiking around big bear and breath work. I like to do my breath work outside and I've noticed, uh, just doing the breath work continuously at certain places.

I've noticed the energy build in those areas. Um, and that's, that helped me better understand, you know, why these specific areas, uh, even churches where people congregate and have intention, um, uh, that they're actually building the [00:55:00] energy in those places. So there's probably an already existing energy there, uh, that many, you know, many, uh, indigenous spots, uh, South and Central America.

And, uh, uh, you know, they have their, their sort of, uh, um, spots to, to do these ceremonies. And then the Spanish came in and built right on top of those places, you know, and then they put the sun in the. door and they're like, see, this is, this is your God too. You know, they, you know, that really think fully understanding, but kind of understanding enough that if they built the churches on these sacred areas, that they'd be able to tap into that energy.

Uh, and that's been going on for a long, long time all over there. So I think there is something about cultivating the energies. Yeah. And in England, London, um, Ireland, I felt those places when I went to Ireland, I think a lot of those stone circle places are, are, uh, are of the [00:56:00] same, you know, these ancient areas built on the ley lines where the, where the veil is thin.

So, of course, when you do contact work in areas where the veil is thin, uh, you're more likely to get a little something than not.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah, I love that. Well, tell, tell everybody when the conferences and details about how they can learn more about it and, and other projects that you're working on.

Reuben Langdon: Yeah, june 20th through the 24th.

So it's going to be happening during the summer solstice, which is another gateway portal, you know, these, uh, we, we did our C five on a new moon. We'd like to, uh, access these portal points. Uh, I, I always look at, you know, this is why, you know, dusk and dawn are so the golden hour is so important. It's during these transitions from seasons, um, transitions like eclipses [00:57:00] or, or, uh, golden hour or, um, uh, moon phases.

These are all, uh, these are all times. On earth where the, the veil is a little bit thinner. So again, we try to, uh, access the, the, these special times to make, to do this work, to, to make the contact work. So, so one June 20th to 24th, we're gonna be right in the middle of the, uh, uh, summer solstice energies, uh, so that the, the, the doorways are gonna be open.

Uh, then we're in Mount Shasta. Uh, so we are already in that sort of portal energy. And then we're. With the intention with all of these amazing channelers and the energies that they bring in, uh, we're really increasing our chances for having some sort of, um, contact, you know, whether it's the, the macchiato, the, the big foot are going to come out and start, you [00:58:00] know, sitting in the auditorium with us.

We'll see, but

Kara Goodwin: I hope so

Reuben Langdon: that would be nice. But for sure, um, you know, we're, we're increasing our chances with that energy, whether you're sensitive to it or not, um, there's definitely going to be a lot of people on the same wavelength, um, connecting in, uh, you know, in Sedona, there's vortices and these types of things too, but, uh, this one specifically, I think, and that's part of the coherence that we're trying to bring through with this idea of Lemuria, uh, because again, that, that has a special energy to it as well.

So that's sort of this focus instead of having a hodgepodge of a bunch of different speakers and different modalities. We're like, no, this is, let's stay focused here. Let's, let's make this about Lemuria, about contact, about bringing back the divine feminine and bringing back this time where there was more, more coherent coherence in, in, in this unconditional [00:59:00] love frequency that everybody, uh, um, um, Used to have already, but we all still have it.

We just need to remember who we are, where we came from. So, uh, the first two days are going to be, uh, sort of conference style.

Kara Goodwin: with featured speakers.

Reuben Langdon: Yeah. So sort of your traditional conference style uh, everybody will be in the theater and uh, every hour we're going to have different speakers and Presenting, uh, we'll also be live streaming the event Um, so if you can't make it you can tune in later.

You can turn in tune in live Uh, but they'll, you know, later there'll be a playback to you can tune into. Um, and then the next two days after that are going to be workshop days. So, uh, all the main speakers, as well as a few additional speakers are, or, um, teachers are going to be coming and offering workshops and that's, it's a more intimate setting, uh, you know, 20 to 30 people to a room and, uh, and a [01:00:00]longer, so the.

So that each speaker has a different, uh, presentation that you're going to be doing so that all that stuff's on the website. So we encourage people, you know, you can just come for the conference and sort of skip the, the workshop, uh, part, but, uh, a lot of the workshops, uh, not a lot. Some of them are going to be offsite where a seal is going to be taking a group to do some gritting.

Energy work with the land to that actual same spot where, uh, where I heard the knocking on the trees. Um, Willow is going to be taking people out to Ferry Falls, um, which is called Ferry Falls because the ferries are prominent in that area. A lot of people have sightings and connections with the ferries.

Um. And then we'll be going out and doing the C fives as well. So lots going on. And I encourage anybody who does come to try to schedule some time either before or after to really integrate those energies and, [01:01:00] and, uh, and go out into the land cause there's so many beautiful spots in and around, uh, Mount Shasta to, to explore and connect into.

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. Elmira, Oh, yeah, sure. Come on. Let me see. Are you able to unmute yourself? Let me see. Yes. Okay. Hello.

Reuben Langdon: Oh, hello there.

Participant: Yeah. Actually, first I want to say thank you to Ms. Goodwin and Mr.

Langdon. Actually, I'm a fan from maybe 11 years ago. I used to follow you on Facebook and also So, um, studying all of your articles that you posted on your timeline and also, um, many things and, uh, you know, also the post about, uh, the, uh, my marching against some of the GMO companies and those kind of things.

Yeah, I'm an old fan.

Reuben Langdon: Yeah, you've been going back a long ways. Thank you. [01:02:00]

Participant: Actually, I was very young. I was 13 years old and I was very young at that age, but I was so curious to study all of the things. And also, I was a fan and I was, uh, you know, my goal was to study more in order to post something on your timeline to get your attention.

It was so funny. And actually, somehow I could say that I grew up with you and Mr. Langdon, you helped me a lot. Uh, because I live in Iran, and as you know, Iran is a very restricted country with a lot of limitations. And, you know, we cannot search on internet in order to gain information. You know, it is very limited.

And, uh, also the people are also very busy with, you know, You know, repeated patterns, inflations, economical inflation, inflation, and those kind of things. And actually you helped me a lot and I wanted to go you guys to know that these kind of webinars are very useful and I really want to thank you.

Because people like [01:03:00] us that are in those kind of countries, they are always, you know, we want to seek for the truth and we want to learn more, but there is no option. Everywhere is censorship. Everywhere is limitations. And I just wanted to come up and thank you for this opportunity and everything. And I just wanted to also thank you for posting many things on your social media, your Facebook and to, uh, and you know, I understand your effort to make all of the people awake and, uh, you know, you are trying to raise the consciousness and you are trying to bring everyone to the united consciousness.

I also appreciate that and nothing. I just wanted to share that with you.

Reuben Langdon: Wow. Thank you so much. Amura. Thank you. Wow. What a, what a nice treat.

Kara Goodwin: Beautiful. Yeah. Lovely. Thank you for coming on.

Reuben Langdon: Yeah. Talking about that evolution. So yes, I used to be marching against Monsanto and those, and, you know, uh, what was even the, [01:04:00] what was the occupy movement?

I remember those things, uh, my, my evolution has taken me now, you know, and we're seeing the same with the Palestine movement that's, um. It's beautiful that what's happening in the universities around the world, really, even in Europe and England, I know there's a sort of movement to call out the genocide that's happening in Palestine.

But I've also shifted my energy a bit on understanding those types of things. Um, uh, activist movements. Um, I think, uh, at their base, they're, they're quite lovely and it's good to speak out about those things. Um, but so easily, uh, over time I've seen how those, uh, Movements get sort of hijacked or coerced into almost [01:05:00] becoming the opposite of what their intention initially was.

Uh, and I've spoken about this, you know, with the Black Lives Matter and Me Too, and there's just so many movements that start off with really great intentions because of, but I believe it's because of that energy, that sort of fighting, that us versus them energy. Um, it's easy for that. I don't know what it's called a parasite, a virus or something.

It's easy for that stuff to get infiltrated. And then, and then people end up, uh, not, you know, they're so focused on, Oh, you know, let's make the change, make the change, which needs to happen. Absolutely. I'm fully, I'm not saying that that stuff doesn't need to happen, but because they're so hyper focused on the fighting aspect, then The coercion to go to, you know, to, as we're seeing with the fighting with the police and then the violence breaks out and all that stuff ends up getting sort of out of hand and becoming the opposite intention of what it really intended [01:06:00] to.

So it's almost like

Kara Goodwin: at any cost. It's gotta be this at any cost, even if

Reuben Langdon: right. And I saw that when I mentioned earlier, when we were in Portland with the Portland riots and just, um, it just, it's happened. I'm seeing that happen with the Palestine stuff too. I think peaceful protesting is great. Uh, if there is a way to peacefully protest in, in, in.

Not engage in that violence aspects, but it's, it was very difficult because you have so many other interests that understand the psychological mechanics of how us human beings can easily be switched into, uh, into, you know, a negative. So, um, it hurts my heart to see these movements, um, that initially start off with good intentions, get tweaked or get, uh, uh, infiltrated.

Inverted and there and there [01:07:00] are instigators, you know, uh, the january 6th Um stuff, you know, there's there are fbi instigators that go into these movements To intentionally stir it up to create the chaos. So then they have an excuse to go in and make arrests You know, that's been, uh, it's been a common thing.

So, um, it just, I'm reading the

Kara Goodwin: book right now called chaos. Have you read that one? It's about actually the Charles Manson murders. And it is wild because this reporter, like, kept investigating for years and years and years, like maybe a decade or two decades or something. And he, like, he kept going, I know I'm like, Getting into conspiracy, you know, territory, which I don't like, like, I don't resonate with this, but I'm just reporting, like, I'm just following these leads and it doesn't make sense.

And I, and the only explanation is this government involvement, like he's pulling all the [01:08:00]layers, it's. Fascinating, but like every step of the way, he keeps coming back to, like, I don't want to be a conspiracy reporter, you know, but I'm just trying to uncover what's happening. And anyway, chaos is

Reuben Langdon: and I think when we realize that.

As a collective, you know, and we can start to have more discernment Uh, you know, i'm no longer protesting against gmos in that sense My protest now is just don't buy them, you know, just you know, make sure you support local organic farmers And don't give them your money And, you know, uh, uh, yes, you know, the lawsuit that RFK1 was a monumental, uh, lawsuit and it's really shifted the, the perspective Monsanto's, I think they even went out of business or they, they were bought up by Bayer and, you know, their stocks are down, all that stuff.

That's great. That's what we need to learn. That's. The true battle comes in those forms, you know where we can have the [01:09:00] awareness individually and then collectively protesting helps but it's also very dangerous because we're we're inviting in a An energy that can easily get swayed to the opposite. So, um, I I you know, I want it's it's hard.

I want to encourage people to protest but not in that way You know what? I needed it not in a combative or even just be very careful, uh, uh, around the, the so called process. I remember going to an Occupy, uh, meeting. And this was locally in, in LA, uh, back I think was that 2010 ish. And in that meeting I could see, I, I, I remember I walked out.

Because, uh, the, the dis, the, the way the organization and the fighting and the, the, the energy and I was like, this is not, this is not what this, you know, on the outside is sort of telling everybody that we're, hey, we're gonna, you know, we're gonna protest and we're gonna bring awareness to, to Wall Street [01:10:00] and all the funniness with the banksters.

But when I was in the meeting, I was like, this is not, this is more, this is the opposite. This is not right. And I even voiced, I said, guys, you're, you're on the wrong track here. This is terrible. And then they were like, and I'm like, okay, I'm out of here. So that was like the beginnings of me realizing that, um, Uh, uh, you know, these, these protests are being hijacked.

And now we're finding out George Soros is funding aspects of the Palestine protest. And, um, I don't know if you've heard that, but yeah, so it's the same with the Black Lives Matter. You know, they, you know, even if, you know, they, I think these, these the big money and other people are, are really, uh, they understand the mechanics of how to manipulate and take advantage of even when it's not going so called their way, you know, like, okay, the man, it [01:11:00] seems like humanity is waking up and we're gonna, you know, outs the banksters and get rid of the bad guys, you know, that kind of thing.

For them, any, any, it's all an opportunity to create any time, uh, whether it's for, or against their sort of Agenda, they, they're always able to make it for their agenda, which is to create people fighting and separation. So, uh, just don't buy into it. Yeah. Be careful out there guys. We're in some interesting times.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. That empowerment is so crucial to be able, being able to discern and, um, Patty is joining us from Australia. He woke up in the middle of the night. He's so amazing. Thank you for being here, Patty. He's asking if you have any info about a Mount Shasta area, Mount Shasta like area in Australia. I know like Ayers Rock.

I mean, that's like a magical. Rock, right? A magical part of the world.

Reuben Langdon: I'm not familiar with Australia. I haven't been to Australia. [01:12:00] Oh, you've

Kara Goodwin: spent so much time in the Pacific Rim. I'm surprised.

Reuben Langdon: Yeah. I never made it down there. Um, it's on my bucket list for sure. So I, I wish I had some, some answers, but I would say, You know, the, the Australian aborigines are said to be some of the, the most advanced conscious people, as far as, you know, the density, like this fourth density consciousness, um, that they sort of never lost their connection in a sense.

Uh, the going back to this idea of Lemuria and Mu. So I would say just follow them wherever they go and whatever, uh, whatever they hold sacred. To, uh, uh, in their culture as a sacred area, uh, I would say you'll probably, uh, follow them and you'll, you'll, you'll find, you'll find your connections like a Mount Shasta kind of connection.

Kara Goodwin: Have you been to Ayers Rock, Patty? [01:13:00] I can see you.

Paddy: No, I haven't been to Ayers Rock. I know a little bit about it, but not a lot. But it is, uh, apparently it's on the ley line with some of the pyramids in Egypt. And they're going to have a big function there about September, I think. But it's a fair way away.

Um,

Kara Goodwin: yeah, it's in the middle of nowhere, right?

Paddy: Exactly. Australia has a lot of nowhere in it.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah.

Paddy: You know, we've got, we've got more area than you guys have in mainland USA, but we've got, we've got about 27 million people, that's all. So they're pretty sparsely spread out.

Reuben Langdon: That's a good thing that those are the places you want to go.

Those untouched places.

Paddy: Well, yeah, there's certainly plenty of those. But there's, you know, I'm just thinking like, you know, there's bound to be, um, something in there. And it's so rarely seen because people just aren't there. We have a thing called the Min Min Lights, [01:14:00] which are out in the middle of nowhere.

And they just. I'll just appear, and they'll hover around and they'll move towards people that are camping. Apparently it gets quite spooky, I've never And there are lines? Sorry?

Kara Goodwin: Did you say there are lines?

Paddy: No, no, min min lights.

Kara Goodwin: Lights, sorry, okay.

Paddy: Just lights, just floating,

Kara Goodwin: you

Paddy: know, five or ten or fifteen feet up above the ground and they seem to move around and they just seem to haunt people.

I know a couple of people that have seen them and they, it gets a bit, um, They get a bit intimidated by them, but there's, like, the Aboriginals aren't all the same. There's a lot of, there's a, there's a lot of, there's a lot of different communities, like probably hundreds, but, um, some of them were very, very warlike.

The Kalkadoons up in the north, um, and then there was another lot in the Palmer River in Queensland that were [01:15:00] very, that were coppery and bigger than any other Aboriginals. So where did they come from? I can't see any, there must have been something done, but I've never seen released any DNA released about them to say where they actually came from.

Oh,

Kara Goodwin: interesting.

Paddy: Because, you know, there's, um, you know, how, where did they come from? That intrigues me, but they could, they look a lot of time, well, some of the, the, um, the natives, they look a lot like, um, Indians. So I'm sort of coloring that like that, but, um, I just, it seems to be a lot of keeping things in the dark in relation to the history of them, like,

Kara Goodwin: yeah, like genealogy.

Paddy: Yeah, they just, yeah, there's, there's been, it would have been a lot of money spent on doing the [01:16:00] research, but the government doesn't want to, or those that control it don't want to release them. Let's go ahead. The, the Calca Dunes, they were very, um, cannibalistic, very well organized, um, but they Yeah, I wouldn't,

Reuben Langdon: I wouldn't want to hang around that.

I definitely wouldn't want to hang around the, the, the veteran ones, you know, the one, one, the non warring ones, the non warring ones.

Paddy: Well, well, well, you're right there, Reuben, because even like the, the, the tribesmen in that area, from other tribes, to this day. They are fearful of them, and they give them a wide berth, they, they're pretty well shunned by, you might say, their own sort of people, but they, it's um, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a different scenario, this.

One

Reuben Langdon: of the things I'm noticing is, um, throughout many of the [01:17:00] indigenous cultures, uh, uh, that I've interacted with in, in North America, uh, Central and South America, there is a, um, as the frequency of the planet is, is opening. And as, uh. You know, us and say the Western world, you know, the, the, the more modern sophisticated, we call it sophisticated.

It's not sophisticated by any means, but the more modern, you know, Western world, but it would just call it that. Um, uh, as we are opening our hearts and we're becoming more. Respectful of these storylines, you know, I think before there was just so much, you know, this is this and you're You're full of this and we don't nobody's paying attention.

But now there's a curiosity that's becoming more and more prevalent throughout the Western world and a respect for the indigenous teachings and their stories. So as we become curious, then they [01:18:00]open up to, to their stories. So much has been kept secret because they knew that if they were to open up that we would misuse the information or make fun of them, or we would, you know, take it and, and, you know, just like the Occupy Wall Street, you know, start out with something good and then it'll get mis misused.

So really, if, if we can continue on this path and I'm seeing it already, I'm seeing many, we'll call them wisdom keepers. The ancient, the more traditional, uh, indigenous communities that have these stories that they've kept them close to their heart, they are now starting to share. They're very, they're still being very selective on who they share with and everything else.

Um, And time and time again You know hollywood has taken their stories and mixed and twisted them and turned them and made them things that they're not So they're reluctant to share but we are entering this time now where they're being told by their Ancestors in spirit form that it's [01:19:00] time to share.

So i've noticed just in the past. Let's say Decade, uh, many, many indigenous are starting to open up to the curious ones, to us who may be, as long as we're respectful to the, to the teachings and we're not going to, uh, you know, manipulate or, or, or add our own, you know, turn it into a religion or, you know, all that stuff that's happened in the past, as long as we stay, uh, pure, then we're going to see more, more stories are coming out.

And more, more, uh, more invite invitation from these cultures to allow us to go in there. So, you know, I think just have an open heart and, and respect and, and we'll, we'll make those connections.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, Patty,

Reuben Langdon: but use caution when you're talking to us.

Kara Goodwin: That's always good advice. It's always

Reuben Langdon: good advice.

Respect, but, uh, part of that [01:20:00] respect is knowing where to draw the line.

Kara Goodwin: Right, right.

Paddy: Yeah, yeah, I think there's a lot of, there's a lot of manipulation being, being done by, um, people, essentially white people just wanting to feather their own nest and build a bit of a power aboriginals have definitely been, Abuse in that way

Reuben Langdon: and they're on guard as they should because, uh, you know, especially during COVID.

So I saw so much terrible stuff happening to to the Aboriginal communities in Australia, um, during the COVID. Um, the, the main part of COVID and I'm sure it's still going on now. Uh, you know, I, I, there's a lot, there's a lot going on in the world right now. And unfortunately, Australia with the new, uh, central bank digital currencies and the digital IDs, I know that's a battle you guys are fighting right now.

Uh, it's coming to the state soon. It's, it's happening in Canada. So hang in there guys. We'll, we'll [01:21:00] get through this.

Paddy: Okay.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. I know with, uh, you know, speaking of, and thank you, Patty, for that. It's always lovely to have you here. Matthew talked about this a little bit in the, so the, the, um, person that we talked about in the beginning of this with the, um, that he's a drum, he's like a master with the drum and you talked about Bigfoot.

Um, but I remember him saying that, that even with you, like when you kind of came into their fold, they were very like. Um, you know, holding your arms a little bit suspicious because, you know, you represented the media and, um, they just had, they personally had deceptive experiences with people who pretended that they were, or they, they, on the surface, it looked like they wanted to honor report their story.

Um, and then when the final product came out, it had been twisted and it wasn't favorable. And so when [01:22:00] you came on, you had a little bit of damage control. Even you didn't even realize you were walking into that.

Reuben Langdon: Right, right. Well, you know, I was just following Bill and Steve and I were kind of doing our own thing, but we noticed that, you know, Matthew and Heather would pop in and then they're gone and we're like, Oh, okay.

And then it really took about five days or so for, uh, for them. And I guess Matthew, what he said is. Spirit told him, Spirit told him that we were okay. Um, and, and he, he, even though on the surface, he's like, I don't know, you know, these couple of white guys from Hollywood. So, uh, but spirit said, gave him a definite, like, no, these guys are cool.

You got to open it up. So, so then he, then he invited us and he's like, oh, you know, okay. You invited us to sweat lodge. And, um, at that time, actually we, we couldn't make it, but we went back. Uh, uh, you know, the second and third time we went back and partook and yeah, it's been awesome.

Kara Goodwin: Oh, that's amazing.

Good. [01:23:00] Well, thank you so much. I've loved this discussion. Thank you everybody for hanging on. I know we were supposed to wrap up at one, but well, half an hour ago, but good conversation. Yes, it was, it was too good to stop. So thank you, Ruben. I love talking to you. I, I can't wait. Wait for the next one. We'll have to do it again.

And thank you for everybody for being here and your great questions. And, uh, I wish you all a beautiful rest of the day. Thank you so much.

Reuben Langdon: Thanks, Kara. Appreciate it.

Kara Goodwin: Thanks a lot. Bye guys.