312. Uncovering Systemic Fraud & Corruption - Roy Coughlan

 [00:00:00] Hello and welcome to the Meditation Conversation, the podcast to support your spiritual revolution. I'm your host, Kara Goodwin, and today I'm delighted to be joined by Roy Collin. Roy is a podcasting coach with five podcasts, including The Awakening Podcast And the meditation podcast.

Kara Goodwin: He's produced and edited over a thousand episodes, including top guests like Mikey Willis, David Icke, Thomas Renz, Sherry Tenpenny, and more. He's founded over 15 companies that were in five different countries. 

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Kara Goodwin: So Roy, welcome. I'm so excited to be with you today.

Roy Coughlan: Yeah. Thank you very much, Kara, for having me on the show and looking forward to this.

Kara Goodwin: so let's start by talking about your path and what led to meditation being such a big part of your journey.

Roy Coughlan: So I moved to Poland about 16 years ago and I set up a lot of different businesses and I started, I was doing kind of real estate and I had lots of syndicates, so I was kind of like 25% shareholder, 30% shareholder, but I was the CEO of all these companies. And [00:04:00] the investors that I got were like the big boys.

Some of them are worth 20 million euro, 10 million euro. I was just after making say the first million from properties in Ireland. and I was kind of looking, okay, if I get all these different projects, I was building apartments and everything, get to maybe 5 million. And then the kinda crash happened and I was actually okay.

I was doing well with my Own business. I was like, managing properties, renovating them. So that was doing well. Then sales as well, like I was doing the real estate side, so when things stopped, it was like the investors that I had, they started losing everything and I thought it would come. Right. They get it sorted

because they fell first and I started reinvesting into, say, like a commercial, so I put like another 150,000 into it saying, Hey, I'll just increase my shareholding.

This will come right.

And 

Kara Goodwin: talking about like 2008, 

Roy Coughlan: it was a bit later, by the time I 

moved across the pond, but

Kara Goodwin: I see. 

Roy Coughlan: Yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: that's time. 

Roy Coughlan: exactly. Yeah.

And so I started,investing more and eventually [00:05:00] I realized these, they weren't actually going to get right. And then I was running outta money and one fell and they all fell and.

Yeah, and basically usually with a limited liability company, it's kind of like, eh, lost it. let's, brush ourselves off and go again. In Poland, you're personally liable when you're the president, and nobody told me that. the solicitors didn't tell me

that, and the accountants didn't tell me that. So I was there instead of making 5 million, I was personally liable for 5 million

Kara Goodwin: oh my gosh.

Roy Coughlan: That's

exactly what I said.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. . Oh 

my goodness. 

Roy Coughlan: and so it was a hard time for me to be honest. 'cause like you're dealing with the bailiffs and everything and no, even prior to things going wrong, I would talk to the bank and I'd say, listen, I can split this side up. I'll do this, I'll do that. And they'd say, grand. And next they'll turn the bailiffs on me.

Like they, their word was nothing like, it was like everything. They were

Kara Goodwin: when you say bailiffs.

like [00:06:00] sheriff kind of thing. I think. Oh wow. 

Roy Coughlan: Yeah,

Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. 

Roy Coughlan: so then, yeah, so then like I was watching like how everything was fairing out. So for example, a commercial property, I'll talk in US dollars just to, even though it was polished lot is, but a property that was like one and a quarter million, they said, this is, valued at half a million.

So the bailiffs, were in cahoots with the valuer, which is impossible for a property to drop like that. And then what they do is they do a flash sale. So they put it up on the screen. So the first, auction is at 75%. The second is at 50%. They put it up on the screen, take a screenshot and take it down.

Nobody knows the auction is there. Nobody turns up. Then they have their own cronies to buy it. The next time. So they're buying a property that was worth 1.25 million for 250,000?

Kara Goodwin: The government essentially.

Roy Coughlan: Well,

Kara Goodwin: Or the how? They're all 

Roy Coughlan: yeah. Yeah, exactly. The city, the, the [00:07:00] banks, them representing each other. So that

was one that had gone on.

But what happened with that one? 'cause I had a bit of look, I suppose a guy that I knew Bought it and basically just took everything off so that I wasn't personally liable. So he got it at

a very good price, better than what they were going to take themselves. But it, it just cleared a decks of one big company and the same guy. it just shows how sometimes you just do things right. I remember there was another, we had four houses. So basically the project that I was doing, one of the sites was to actually pay for the four sites. Two of the houses would've built the whole lot. And the other one was the profit. So it was like 25 to 30% profit, which is decent in kind of

Kara Goodwin: Mm-hmm.

Roy Coughlan: estate. And when the market tanked, they weren't lending out. So basically the banks, this was all organized around the world. They basically stopped lending. So we had people that wanted the buy. And they weren't able to get funding. there

was one [00:08:00] guy that I knew, he was a professor, his wife is a solicitor.

They had one house already. They had 50% down payment and they couldn't get a loan. And I was like, they've just turned off the tap.

Kara Goodwin: Uh,

Roy Coughlan: So basically this guy started inquiring about these houses and normally you wouldn't take a call like that or whatever. And I just said, look, come out, I'll show you the projects and everything. And he was the guy that gave me advice. Who ended up buying one of the commercial property. But basically he said, don't go into the auction. 'cause they'll be asking the names and then you're kind of liable again.

Kara Goodwin: Oh

Roy Coughlan: They bribed everybody in the room for that auction

Kara Goodwin: really?

Roy Coughlan: and they had the wrong cronies buying it. So they all got about a thousand. there was something like 14 people in there and I was looking forward to this one if they were gonna come after me, but it was done, that was like another quarter of a million for that project that was excess. They would've, plus penalties and everything so before you know it. and it was just [00:09:00] a case of things like that happening and I was like, just trying to think of everything to, how to get this right. And eventually I just started getting, myself back on track. And like I started listening to the vision Ani, the twin, the six phase meditation process.

That was the first meditation that I exposed during this time. I dunno

if 

Kara Goodwin: this was this, I'm not 

familiar 

Roy Coughlan: this

was when I was deep in this and just 'cause you're, look,

you're just not thinking straight and it's just,

Kara Goodwin: exactly. So this is, you're just, your life is in upheaval. You're, you are realizing you can't trust people. It sounds like there's a lot of kind of betrayal going on inand you're, the sand is shifting underneath you where you thought you had, because real estate can be a great investment in a healthy market and

And suddenly the carpet is, pulled out from under you. so it sounds like meditation was, it was really just I need to get my [00:10:00] bearings, I need to have something in this time of turmoil. Is that accurate? 

Roy Coughlan: yeah.

exactly. And say in Ireland then, 'cause I had three properties in Ireland and including my own personal Prop. They took it with all my personal

belongings and everything. Yeah.

They just, yeah. I didn't even get notice of the sale or anything. They, everything they'd done was corrupt. So then they went to the high court took me to the high court because I'd lost everything.

I had to rep, sent myself the first time they made an error, so I had to go over to go through this and didn't they just whip it out? And I said, the next time I said to the judge, I said, they've already tried this. They can do it as often as they want. He said, So you're dealing with a bank that has unlimited resources against

the public. Yeah. And so the way it works in Ireland, it's strange. It's like a whole courtroom with all barristers. Barristers are the top end. Some of them are charging like 10 grand a day. Like they're just, most people

weren't being represented. So you're going into the kind of master or the high court just to see will they [00:11:00] accept it?

Otherwise you lose straight away. And

what I was witnessing there was like this woman went up, she had a piece of paper, she was shaken, obviously first time in court did not. She goes, my husband's died of cancer. I dunno what to do. Anything. I'm very sorry. Bang rule in favor of the court. Yeah. Everything was like that. So I actually managed to get mine to go to the, into a judicial case. And the way they do it is they have an affidavit. So they had sent an affidavit. All lies. Oh, like they had I think 13 point I put back, I dunno, something like 45 points, because I knew how fraudulent they were. I'd done all this myself. They couldn't answer 'em. And they're supposed to, by law, they're supposed to respond to your affidavit. So they kept trying all tricks. And then they'd, even the barrister was telling me he'd meet me in the court, cortical. He goes, it's actually down this room today. And I just, I dunno. I just got a feeling there's something weird there and I went and checked in the kinda secretary part now going, no, it's in the same place.

He was just trying to trick me. 'cause if I didn't turn up, bang. Rule in favor of the, yeah,[00:12:00] 

so that's the kind of thing. There was one, like a K P M G is international for accounting from one person stood up and they said we had our, account audited and we were overcharged something like 15,000 euro. And the judge says, when was that? Three years ago. You should have took it up with 'em then. Bang. Rule in favor of the banks. Yeah. Plus

interest penalties. And it was just like everybody,

Kara Goodwin: yeah. So where did things go there? Just like high level, like how did . How did you end up getting through all of this and come out on the other side?

Roy Coughlan: I suppose it's All my life, I've always kind, I stand up for what's right and and the more that I could see the corruption, the more fuel that was given me. It's and unfortunately across the world, there's a lot of people

truing the toll and like we all know of that, or they're getting, they get an illness based on stress. And this is people that know exactly what they're doing. This is totally organized. So [00:13:00] once I Went through the meditation, the six phase, like I said. Then I kinda started creating my own, 'cause they said, this is taking a bit too long. I don't always have 20 odd minutes, and

I'd done my own.

Where I'm just sitting there and just taking through what I'd like to see. And on that there's the, like the act of forgiveness was probably the most powerful one because a lot of the time, like a builder or somebody, there was always somebody that had, or the banks, and you have hatred for them because you're going. They're doing this intentionally. They don't need the money.

they're really hurting people. But then

I've realized that when you have that anger, it's within your own cells, you're actually hurting yourself. They're not thinking of you.

That's the last thing on their head. They're more interested in going to their fancy restaurants and, robbing somebody else. So it was smaller ones were easier. You could do it in a kind of few sessions. But others, like you just think and you go, all right. how did they get into this? You know? And I always brought it back to the baby. Just that's the one thing that worked is like we have unconditional love for a child and that you look at a baby and it's just pure love.

Everybody sees a [00:14:00] baby and they just, they just wanna cuddle it and smell it and it's it's just so beautiful. And you think it was external forces that have made this person who they are, whether the parents were abusive, drinking

drugs or whatever, and you think They weren't so they have become who they are because of external circumstances, and by doing that, I allowed forgiveness, which at the time I probably didn't realize it, but I was actually, it was myself that was getting 

the, yeah.

So I was then not

holding it and then allowing myself to, you know, and gratitude. Was that another one as well? It's 'cause when you go through things like that, it's always, you're thinking of the lack of money, the lack of, just. anger

and everything, but when you're grateful for the cup of coffee, grateful for your son, just giving you a cuddle, just, taught your folks.

Just having people that have your back, that people didn't

just run. Like I, I was lucky in, like in Poland, basically everyone ran for the hill once the money ran out. But in Ireland, I, because I had such a good relationship, the accountant and the solicitor, even though they weren't representing me, but basically gimme me advice, [00:15:00] they were there. For me, which meant a

lot to me. It just, because most people don't like, it's just, you're just a number from, so

I had great respect for the two of them that had kinda stuck by me.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Oh, wow. And so did everything end up, you're here now, you're not in prison. you've, you're, seems like you're back on your feet and it's, that's not really a very long time. we're talking maybe 2010 type of thing. That's, and when you're embroiled in like legal issues, that can really go on for a long time and really be draining.

So it seems like that is behind you now, is that 

accurate? 

Roy Coughlan: Yeah, like the thing is, one of the solicitors at the time was represent, was recommending that I go for bankruptcy and .I had all the fight and I just said, I don't want this. 'cause you're like tired with it. In America it's a lot better because like after a year you're able to just move on and, 'cause look, business stop failure rate is very high anyway. So like, when you can just look, [00:16:00] lesson learned this, nobody goes out intentionally trying to lose something. But it's not the same in a lot of countries, like in Ireland, and it's 10 years. That's like no matter what

you do, you always have that over your head. So I just decided like an hour before filing, half an hour before filing, nah, I'm not doing this. And managed to kinda clear the decks and get everything kind sorted and

yeah, 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. so now, did this kind of launch you into the crypto world? Because

I don't really know much about crypto, and I know one of your podcasts is the crypto podcast, so I would love to, to touch on this, because I personally don't know a lot about it and haven't gone very deep into it, in my personal exploration, so

I would love to hear like how did crypto be like come into focus for you?

Roy Coughlan: So I just go back a little bit. So I

went to an event in, it was a Mindvalley event. It was in Mexico and it was called What's Your [00:17:00] Quest? And when I was there, that was my first time kinda having a break. After all this. It was I felt I deserved to just have a bit of me time.

And I was there like, what's my question?

I said, I'm going to make it my mission to expose all of this. 'cause people need to know this. 'cause most people like the way they do the letters and everything is we're gonna put you in the newspaper and all this. I mean, you've banked right? Until that you like they're ringing your credit card, bringing you, abusing you.

Like what? I know now. I'm, after learning so much, if I had the knowledge that I do know, they wouldn't have got anything off me. Because

everything they'd done was fraudulent. So

at that event I said, that's what I'm gonna do. So it was like the awakening was the thing that I was planning on doing.

And the other thing was there was two brilliant speakers at the event. I hated public speaking. I never, even when I was in working for like a corporation, mechanical contractor leading big projects. And when I had to speak, I just hated it wasn't my thing. And I said, I need to be a good speaker to do this. So when I came back, I joined the toss Masters. Then I joined [00:18:00] another Toastmasters. I formed my own Toastmaster club. I became a coach of a Finnish club, and I just went deep. I'd done every competition that was there. I did an open mic, TEDx, I did a comedy open mic. I just said, okay, forget this fair. I started reading all books on, Kennedy and TEDx books, and just went, okay, how do I actually change this around?

and I did. And The, like how the podcast journey, which I know's a crypto question, but it it's all,

 it's all

related. So

I went to a workshop in, it was in Estonia for, in a Mindvalley event. And basically there was a guy that was after starting a podcast the year before, was doing a workshop just in his own kind of place.

It was just outside of the event. And I went there and I went, oh, I like this. And I said, okay, speaking will be easier. I still wanted to kinda expose what I said, I might, I need to learn things first. So the very first one was the speaking podcast, and then I did the meditation because basically I, with these different events, I was exposed to a load of people doing different types of meditation.

Breath [00:19:00] work, I realized, whoa, how powerful Breath work is. when I do Brett work for the first time, saw visualizations and everything, it was, and I

said, everybody needs to see this. You know, they don't need to be taking drugs and like you can cure yourself just through our own breadth.

And so that was the meditation one. Then I did the Polish one because I

wanted to, we're living in Poland. I wanted to be better at Polish. I was doing Rosetta Stone. I was doing PIMS there. I was getting, but it just wasn't working. So I said I listened to a Polish podcast, They were either scripted or they were only in Polish. And I said, this isn't going to work.

So my ex-wife, who was my teacher, like we, we split up after a year of being married, but like we still had, we, it wasn't one of these typical breakups where you hate each other, you know, just, we just realized we weren't for each other. So we'd started doing the Polish podcast and that's been number one in a lot of countries, to scientists.

Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: that's amazing.

Roy Coughlan: So then the Awakening was the one, it was like, okay, this is my baby. This is one where I'm going to expose fraud and corruption. But with solutions, [00:20:00] 'cause there's a lot of podcasts out there that're they're complaining about everything, but it's we all know what's going on, but tell me what to do about it.

Because

there's a lot of people, they even think with the books, they're trained, but they're not really are they're, there's too much fluff in between, it's, they could compress a 300, 400 page book into a 30 page with exactly

what you need to do. And so that was my thought process on doing that and. I know, as you said at the start, I've had some amazing guess, but then I realized with the crypto, Hey, this is really fraudulent. there's some CS rug pulls and scams going on here, but I didn't wanna incorporate it into the awakening 'cause I said

not everybody understands crypto. I was very like, it took me ages to understand crypto 'cause just people can't explain it easy.

So I wanted to have it, that one, I'm explaining it in an easy way that you go, oh, I get it. And two, exposing the kind of the fraud. And it's, it's doing well and, yeah.

Kara Goodwin: So you mean fraud within crypto?

Roy Coughlan: Yeah. Yeah.

Kara Goodwin: So now did you start this before again? Like crypto's Not my, I'm not [00:21:00] in that world. I don't really understand it, but I do know that there was a big scandal that went down a few months ago. . Somebody you know, had made a gazillion dollars or, and then disappeared or took it and things collapsed.

But is that kind of what you were you already seeing that 

kind of thing 

Roy Coughlan: yeah. that was probably F

D X that you're talking about. No, but there's, there's like, see, 'cause people, they, they heard of Bitcoin and then they kind of, there's all these alternative coins and they would get famous people to start promoting it and people would think because, certain person, I think Jake Paul was one of 'em.

I knew the guy that does the boxing and that fell apart. So there's a lot of Stuff going out there and people just assuming, 'cause you've like big influencers, influencers with millions of followers getting on board as they think it's legitimate and it's not, most of 'em having the clue and they're just getting major kickbacks because of this. So there was even one of the dragons that was actually promoting F D X. So

Kara Goodwin: What? What do you mean 

Roy Coughlan: [00:22:00] the dragons?

the shark Tank, you know the

Kara Goodwin: Oh, like dragons den 

Roy Coughlan: yeah. the, Yeah.

the American or Canadian Shark Tank. So one of the guys,

I forget his name, Kevin. Kevin O'Leary actually is the name of the guy. So he was actually even promoting this.

So there's constant, things failing and there's also people intentionally putting out stuff, getting in all the money, and then it just disappears overnight. And people invest sometimes all their life savings thinking because they saw somebody buying something at a thousand dollars and they become multimillionaires.

that's the way it always goes. But it's who's kinda, if you can understand it better. So I get in, people talk about how to invest, how to watch it, how to understand it better. And I've even had people that are experienced crypto people comment. I didn't know that. You know that because

I'm coming in with questions that. just things that they probably wouldn't normally be asking. And I had a guy on now, just recently, I just released one and it's Hey mom, I bought Bitcoin and it was basically, he wrote this book to [00:23:00] actually be able to explain to his mother how to buy Bitcoin. And I, like I said to myself, I wish I had got that when I was told about, like 2014 was when I first signed And it was like they were talking about wallets and stuff like that, and it's just I don't get this. And I just kinda walked away, started reading loads of books. Books were just not user friendly. It was just, that made no sense to me. So I just never kinda jumped in when I should have.

And now it's the case like NFTs as well, like this just to understand everything.

So like when you say you don't understand, you just go in and start listening to Juan and just. it'll make sense. 'cause I'm always asking questions to just because I know most people don't understand what's this, what's that? And

just to simplify it, but by just doing that one, you might find something that's actually good, but two, when somebody, because what you'll notice, I don't, maybe in social media you'll see people when the Bitcoin is going up, they're all out selling stuff to you and I've got this course, I've got that.

The minute of jobs, crickets, you don't see 'em. And it's like

they're not legitimate people. And so [00:24:00] I just want people to be aware that there's a load of people out there just trying to take their money in and it's hard

earned. 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate that. So if you were to step back and like your stance on crypto, because if I were listening to this right now, I think I'd be like, Roy is be aware, be wary of crypto and maybe stay away from it. But I'm not sure that's really your podcast is about. are you procr in, in general terms,

Roy Coughlan: I am, I think it can be the saving grace, but I think a lot of the stuff that's out there is government controlled, making it look like that's not government controlled, and people think that they're in control when the reality is They know everything. And I've even proved that, 'cause I had a top guy, he's he's able to infiltrate a hackathon kind of guy like that, knows everything.

And I just said, 'cause this kind of manero kind of so-called privacy, cryptos as well that you

can use. And I said, [00:25:00] you can have all the secrecy and VPNs and everything. And I, like I said, I don't, so doesn't that just show everything because it comes from one transaction to the other. So the reality is a lot of people, they are trading And I think they're watching what they're doing. 'cause then they come along and they go, oh, you have A gain, you have capital gains plus interest, plus penalties. And at the end of the day it doesn't make, if matter if you've made 10 million, they just come in and take everything off you. but on the other side, if I look at what's going on in the world and who's controlling everything, and they have the print press, the Federal Reserve, and all the things that I've done there, that's obviously not the right system.

I think it doesn't exist. What I believe is actually right, I think we should have a crypto That's part the people and everybody gets like a million and then there's no inflation, there's nothing and we're all just working between it. So it's like, you know,

if I'm buying your service, I give it, and then you've got your hairdresser, you pay that, we all start off and then the, then, nobody can then be like the, the billionaires, trillionaires that control everything. And if there is

something that's, investing in sale, just say if there was a decent apple or so, like you've got [00:26:00] all small shareholders then that are part of that, that have invested and it's fully traceable. And I think something like that would work. But it's hard because, there's different things going on.

there's say proof of work, proof of stake, and then combining them. But I believe it is definitely better than the system that we've got at the moment. So I would be pro blockchain technology.

Kara Goodwin: Okay. And .Do, there's a lot of talk in the awakening community about the financial system that we have today is not sustainable and it's on the verge of. crumbling because of the, just because of the changes in the earth in general and the changes in consciousness.

And that's the main, like root cause of this instability because it is found, on corruption as you've pointed out. and I did have a question about that now. I can't think 

of 

Roy Coughlan: but if we go to say the, say the American dollar, 'cause everything is like

all oil [00:27:00] and everything was traded in the American,

like it Jekyll Island, I think it was 1933. So people think that's part of the government. It's not, it's a private organization

and 

Kara Goodwin: oil. 

Roy Coughlan: know the Federal Reserve.

Kara Goodwin: Oh, the Federal Reserve is private.

Roy Coughlan: Yes,

Kara Goodwin: I thought it was part of the 

Roy Coughlan: Everybody does. It's not, you could

go in and I would also like to say anything I say, and it's because we've discussed this on my own job, that we can take it in and don't take anything at face value. Go and do your own research. Don't go to

Google. 'cause Uncle Google tends to lie as well.

Go the brave. And also, when you're investigating something, it depends on the question that you're asking.

So if you say, is this safe? It narrowly shows you all the things why something is safe. If you say, why is this dangerous? You get a different result. So make

sure you change your question as well.

Kara Goodwin: is brave, not Microsoft.

Roy Coughlan: I don't believe so. No.

Kara Goodwin: Oh, is that edge that I'm thinking? What am I 

Roy Coughlan: Chrome was thing and

a Bing. Binge. Binge, I think. Is it B. i n Bing Binging, Yeah. 

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. Okay. So [00:28:00] Brave is because it was Duck, duck Go 

Roy Coughlan: Yeah, but apparently Chrome bought. Yeah. Yeah. Google bought that. Yeah, that's what I was told. So I just, I stick to that

Kara Goodwin: Okay, so Brave is the new, 

Roy Coughlan: the one I've been

using 

Kara Goodwin: new DuckDuckGo. Oh, okay. Oh, I believed the DuckDuckGo thing, so I had changed all that. Oh gosh. I'm gonna have to get my passwords all re-saved again or something. , I don't really like the whole tracking thing either. I'm not deep into, because you do start to verge into a lot of fear, like defensive.

Everybody's out to get me. And with me personally, I do. I know there are a lot of devious things going on in the background. And I'm very sorry with everything that you've experienced, 'cause it sounds like it's been a really tough experience that you've had and you've had to learn through fire, but I'm so happy that you're using that to help everybody else to understand things without having to go through the same thing that you went through.[00:29:00] 

I have to kind of tread. I can't go super deep into it because I get so defensive and I get so like, oh, everybody's out to get me. And it really just flips me into a vibration that is, that doesn't help me. And so it's this balance, like I want to be informed. I don't wanna have my head stuck in the sand and.

I also wanna keep working with my light and, not succumbing to this heavy, like, ah, I've gotta, you know, constantly defend myself. And so I don't know if you experience a similar thing and if you have any tips about

how to like, be informed and be sovereign and not Get so defensive and build that like steel trap around your heart, 

you know? 

Roy Coughlan: Hmm. No, I probably have more experience than most of 'em out there because I got kicked off YouTube. I got kicked off Link three. LinkedIn even removed me for a week at the gravel to get that one back. [00:30:00] So

I kinda understand censorship. even say my crypto channel and my own personal one on YouTube, I saw the numbers going back like 500. That shouldn't happen. Happens a lot goes backwards,

Kara Goodwin: where you just, people just automatically gets unsubscribed because of the content, 

Roy Coughlan: no, this is actually my views. Go backwards. That shouldn't happen. That shouldn't be allowed. Yeah, exactly.

Kara Goodwin: oh my gosh. 

Roy Coughlan: Yeah. That's happened to me So many times. 

Kara Goodwin: the number of people who had watched a show, it goes backwards by like 500.

Oh my gosh, that says so 

much. 

Roy Coughlan: And even like the Facebook, 'cause like I've had a few people that really support me all through it. And one guy, he was like, I know I gave him a thumbs up on that and he went back, all the posts, all his thumbs up were removed.

Kara Goodwin: Oh my gosh.

Roy Coughlan: So it's that deep and

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Roy Coughlan: What I would say is, because there was, there's been a few podcasters that kind of doing similar to me, and I saw a lot of 'em stepped away and it got to 'em.

Because sometimes we go deep, we go into [00:31:00] some, like the child stuff. Like I, I was kind of staying away, but I thought, look, a friend of mine had said, if you're kinda stepping away from it, it's like you're not helping it. And I was like, Hmm, yeah, that was a slap to me. Or he was dead. Right? So I started going and like, I mean, there's times my research, I would even cry from the, what I'd learned, but what I can do is I can step away and then I make sure I'm looking at comedies and I'm doing things that kinda Make me happy. Like just, it's like I can step in and step out and I say to people, if you can't do that, just limit it. Reduce it. Reduce it. Because unless you've trained yourself to be able to step away, because like you say, you have to stay in the positive to, you can do a hundred times more when you're in the right frame of mind. And if this is 'cause it does, it depresses a lot of people. It becomes a topic of conversation everywhere you go. Then it just becomes the same thing. So I try to have friends that don't talk about nothing like that or just make a deal. Nobody's allowed to talk about this. If you talk about this, you pay for the bill if you're going for a meal or something like that, and just make fun, things like that.

But what I do is I just [00:32:00] follow comedians. I look at, shows that are good and sometimes just escapism. You might just watch a movie out and just, I know that, but it's a form of escapism that you're not deep down the trap the whole time. And I think by

doing that, .You're staying in the right frame of mind that I know that then I'm able to come in again tomorrow, do this, release it out and help more people.

Kara Goodwin: I love that. I love that balance because,and what you talked about earlier in our episode where you were working on forgiveness within yourself as you were going through this trial 

by fire with the real estate and your personal, . Litigation and all of this. And so working with forgiveness, opens the heart and it's, and again, it's a balance because we also don't want to just deny that this stuff is happening.

We need to be informed so that we can be sovereign beings, because that is, I believe, sovereignty. And liberation are the cornerstones of the spiritual journey. This is what you are here [00:33:00] to do, is to free yourself, to free your soul, and to experience yourself as a liberated soul. And if we don't understand how we're entrapped, we can't do that.

But it is this, like the heart is such an important, it's also like the, it's such a dichotomy. The heart is a huge, huge part of your spiritual growth. And so you, so it's this like this being sovereign in all ways. So even on the awakening of what is really happening in reality, on this earth plane and the devious, the shadows, the things that are really hard to accept that we come across.

how do, it's this practice within us of, okay, I understand that this is happening. I don't consent, I do not consent to this. I do what I can. To remain sovereign and I keep working on my heart. I [00:34:00] keep dropping into my heart. I keep, you know, that flow going and I temper this information and the actions.

That's what I love about what you're saying with the podcast that you do, that there's action that people can take. There are, there are practical things that people can engage with. And we can go into our hearts and work with our hearts from a spiritual, perspective in our meditations and so forth, so that we can keep lifting our vibration.

We can keep taking steps forward to make sure that we are also doing our good work to keep that vibration lifted because the planet relies, you know, is as we keep . bringing in this higher vibration on this planet. Every individual that's raising their vibration is contributing to that, so we wanna make sure that we're not neglecting that also. So I love that

Roy Coughlan: And like you mentioned, [00:35:00] sovereignty, and that's one that I've gone really deep into that and it all happened because of the awakening. I started learning something because when we're born, we're free, but yet we're not. Nobody's free. We're all slaves. We think we own our car. We don't own our car, we don't own our house.

Everything is a trickery and by going, I've read over 20 books on this, but the guests that I get on, And I started taking course, like for example, when they're writing to me and it's Mr. Roy calling and all capitalism, that's not me. That's the straw man. And it's, it might, it's it's something that takes a bit of time to start studying, but by learning this knowledge, You actually can get judges. You can get policemen. You can get, because all of these corrupt bailiffs, you can get 'em to back off because everything they're doing is fraudulent. And once you understand the laws, the proper way to do things. So it's well worth researching just Doing a bit and like J just on it.

'cause sometimes people, they go deep down and they start [00:36:00] attacking everyone. The way I'd done that, when I started learning this, it was like I want to choose my battles. I'm undo the easy ones first because I knew I'm gonna be attacked if I start doing this. And what

I have got from a court coming after me to try to get me going in to back off.

I've got a bailiff to back off. I've got a detective that wanted me to go in to back off. So that proves it works.

Kara Goodwin: Wow.

Roy Coughlan: and most people, they'd say no. don't give them a, respect everybody. But when they're not respecting you don't give 'em respect back, stand in your ground and I have screamed at judges in courts. and they put their head down and nodded because they knew I was right, but yet I'd still lose 'cause they'd rule in the wrong team. But no, I don't even, you don't even go into the court 'cause do they have jurisdiction of you? It's it's too deep to go into in this, but it's just something that I would recommend people. Of anything for our saving grace in this world, what's going on? I'm definitely seeing more and poor people are actually getting into this, so that's why I'm bringing in more people on it, going deeper and deeper. Everybody's [00:37:00] got a different angle. Everybody follows a different system, but at the end of the day, if it's working, that's the most important thing. And you can just go, yeah, who said that they have control? Who said they can do this? Who said they can push whatever agenda they want? Did I agree to that? Did I sign for that? And once you understand that they need to do that, you have more power. And if you like, a lot of the time they're writing it, they don't even sign it, they just have a name or the company. You actually don't even accept that. You go, I'm not dealing with any, I want to deal with the person. So then when they're doing something fraudulent, you go after them all their personal assets. You see 'em backing off, it's amazing. You think? No, like when you're doing it first, you're panicking. I remember the first few letters I was writing, but this, I was like, oh, you know, scared. And now it's like I enjoy it. 'cause I know what I'm doing is right. Lawful.

And what they're doing is not, and they

run for the hills. 

Kara Goodwin: Is this across the board 

globally, like what you talk about? 

So because you're in Poland, you're Irish, but you're, so for example, I'm in America. So if listeners of your podcast [00:38:00] like this would apply regardless of the country.

Roy Coughlan: Yeah, so basically the portion that I got into this first, she was just, I just released, to today, a second time she came back 'cause it was the most popular, she was done real estate in Florida, was selling over 25 apartments or houses. But she was also helping the poor. She wa it wasn't just about the, and there was grants for the poor people and they weren't giving it.

They were keeping it. So when she went around and got it, they gave a fraudulent claim saying she was doing a tax evasion and helping drug dealers. They gave her over seven years in jail and like she had kids and all of this, and she just basically made it her mission. She said she cried for the first six months, her mission to find out how could they do this to me. And eventually, so now she's teaching and she's something like 76, 77. And it's incredible. Like the

not, she 

Kara Goodwin: stayed in jail.

Roy Coughlan: she got seven over seven years. It was like eight years. She got old after seven years and, two months

Kara Goodwin: Oh my gosh.[00:39:00] Wow. This is incredible. Oh my goodness, Roy. this has just been amazing. I thank you so much for being here today with me. I've really enjoyed connecting with you. We had a lovely discussion before I even started recording, but, the work that you're doing, I just really applaud you and I thank you for helping people to awaken in the way that you are.

and I honor . the journey that you've been on that has been, unfortunately, you've had to have this firsthand experience, but of course, that makes it the most powerful. so thank you so much. Thank you for being here. Thank you for everything that you're doing.

Roy Coughlan: Thank you very

much. Really. And just like what one thing people,

when they go through the journey, a lot of people, 'cause everybody learns something from it. They come out a different person. I know I was on a different track, different thought processes and have all the houses, all the girls I life is different to me and it's better. So I know that happens with a lot of people. A lot of people that [00:40:00] I don't know if we say we're they're awake or whatever. A lot of the times unfortunately we go through, so we can't change what happened, but we can always go it's far the best because now I'm a new person and I think differently and I'm helping more people and my health is better because I've understand this.

So we, like life isn't happens, we get curve balls, but just to don't be beating yourself up over it.

Kara Goodwin: Yeah. I love that. how can people connect with you and find your work? I don't know, because apparently YouTube would not be the right place to do that, so.

Roy Coughlan: Well, I, I, I have my personal one, but I can't put on kinda doctors and stuff like that. I started putting things, but basically you find everything on https://bio.link/podcaster. All my f podcasts are there and everything about me.

Kara Goodwin: Okay, and you've got, I'll put all of the info in the show notes as well so people can just easily go in there and click and, great. Well, thank you so much. This has been wonderful.

Roy Coughlan: Thank you very much. Totally enjoy this.

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