Medical Intuition: A Shocking Personal Experience

Will: Karen.

Karen: Yes.

Will: If you were a superhero, what power would you have?

Karen: I would have all the powers.

Will: Don't, you don't, you can't pick all the, you gotta pick one.

Karen: Um, I guess. I don't know. I'm torn between flying and being invisible. Yeah,

Will: it's hard to pick just one, right? Well, for the purpose of this episode, I'm going to say x ray vision.

Karen: Oh,

Will: yeah, no, you're not allowed

Karen: to have x ray vision as your wife.

Will: Get your mind out of the gutter for crying out loud. No, if I could see into people's bodies and see what ailed them, think of all the great things we could do in the world. She's Louise. All right. Well, enough about us. Today's guest is blessed with just such a superpower and he graciously gave us each a session with him so we could experience it for ourselves.

And wow, do we have a lot to talk about. This is not the one to miss. So stick with us because the Skeptic Manifestations starts now. [00:01:00] Hey there, I'm Will. And I'm Karen. And today we're talking to Patrice Christofiak. I hope I got that right.

Okay,

Karen: you pronounced that so you like really enunciated and then you smiled after that.

If you're not, if you're listening and you can't see, he was so proud of himself.

Will: Kristofiak, uh, you don't know how many times I practiced that off camera. Anyway, [00:02:00] Patrice, after suffering a trauma in 2019, started to be able to see inside people's bodies like an x ray machine. Now, while reading people's bodies, he started experiencing somatic effects that led to tons of mysteriously miraculous recoveries.

And many of his clients even started to waken their 5D gifts like clairvoyance or seeing auras. Karen and I had the opportunity to experience this firsthand, and we are about to share what we experienced during these sessions. But before we do that, let's go ahead and meet Patrice. Mr. Christofiac.

Karen: Big smile again.

Will: How are you doing?

Patrice: I'm so good. Thank you for having me on your show. It's amazing.

Will: Oh, well, I'm glad someone said it's amazing, Karen. That's, that's, you know, what's amazing that I said your last name, right? Right. I did say your last name, right? Right.

Patrice: Oh yeah. This

Karen: Yes.

Patrice: Again.

Karen: And if he didn't, please just say yes. Just this once.

Will: Well, Patrice, thanks for being on the show. We're excited to have you. When you reached out to us and you told us [00:03:00] what you could do, obviously the skeptic in me went, huh, but.

In order to prove that you are able to do these things, you so very graciously gave us each an experience and holy crap, do we got to talk about that? But before we do that, we need to just set the table. You are what I guess people would have called, would call a medical intuitive,

Patrice: Yes, uh, this is not completely true. I would like to be very, very clear with the audience because we are different levels of medical intuitiveness. I don't know if we can say it like this. Uh, so first of all, I'm not a medical professional. Medical disclaimer for all your listeners.

Will: but do not. This is for entertainment purposes only.

Patrice: Yeah, because medical intuitives have different levels of reading. Some are very, very good with, giving you a diet, for example.

Karen: Hmm.

Patrice: For my case, I clearly see inside people, like you said. I can give information that people [00:04:00] can give, for example, to their, uh, practitioner, their doctor or dentist, even, that happened.

But I can also clear energies that are stuck. This is, uh, really where, uh, my somatic experiences come from, when there is energy, uh, to be released. I can really see it, and then stuff happens in my body. That is quite wild.

Will: Right. And in fact, to say that you see inside people's bodies like an x ray machine, that's, that's saying just a slight bit of, I mean, there's so much more to what you do than just seeing inside people's bodies, right? You get messages, you get a feeling, I mean, there's all kinds of things that we experienced firsthand.

How did you, how did you learn that you were able to do this? What happened?

Patrice: Well, I didn't really learn. I think I remembered from, I don't know if you believe in past lives and things like this. I think I've studied this before somewhere else.

Karen: Okay.

Patrice: remember where, obviously, because the rule of this planet is that we don't remember. And the trauma reactivated, [00:05:00] uh, what I learned previously.

Uh, I'm not going to go long on the story, it's all about the internet. Basically, the trauma, I got sued for a website and I risked three years of jail and 300, 000 of fine for a website. Uh, and I reached a point where I did not want to live anymore. And every night I would go to bed and I would hope not to wake up the next day for, uh, about a year.

Yeah. And this is when I started the meditation practice. And after months of practicing, I entered into the light and I was super happy. It's what people describe in NDEs or in movies. I entered into the light! Oh my god! This is so beautiful!

Will: movie I saw. Say, stay away from the light, Caroline, I dunno about you.

Patrice: is incredible. It's just pure love.

So I entered in pure love. And from that point, uh, I started to take care of myself for the first time in my life. At 50 years old, I decided to treat myself with a massage every week. And I met, uh, well, I picked a massage salon and I, [00:06:00] uh, I did not know that the world of energy work and I did not know the lady who gave the massage also did energy work.

And she's, uh, she's in Portugal and she's also a trained, uh, monk from, uh, she's actually a Brazilian daughter of shamans, but she's also trained with monks in Nepal. So these are cool. The real deal. She's very, very advanced with energies and she cleaned me up and she removed all the blocks in my body, the stress, everything, because she can see energy.

She can see emotions that are trapped and she could see I was depressed basically. And she cleaned me up. And uh, one day I barfed energy on the massage table. I went like in the movie, The Green Mile, exactly the same thing. If you've seen that movie, uh, you will, you will find it on YouTube. You type Green Mile, the barf is a vomit scene or something like this.

You will find it. But without the flies, because in the Green Mile, the guy has flies coming out of his mouth.

Karen: Oh my gosh.

Patrice: flies. Yeah, yeah.

Will: So let me just. No, that's good. Yeah, let me just clarify. You like, the actual, actual vomit [00:07:00] came out of your mouth or it was just energy that came out of your

Patrice: Just energy, but the throat opens and there's a texture to the energy that comes out. And I was like, what's that? Because I've never experienced real energy before. This was the first time in my life. I did not even know that existed. It's very wild. It's like, you know, when you put two magnets, I don't know, maybe it's a guy thing.

You put two magnets and there's a force that pushes them. Uh,

Karen: Mm hmm.

Patrice: it feels exactly like that. There's this density to energy. This is exactly how it feels. Many people ask me how the energy feels to me. And I realized this is exactly how it feels. It's kind of a magnetic force with a density. So you put two magnets and you push.

Push them and this is what it feels like. This density of energy.

Karen: So when this happened, what were, what, what did you think? I mean, did it, did it freak you out? Like what, or did you know a little bit about it already?

Patrice: I thought it was so cool. I was always fascinated by the whole experience. So this took a long time. It took two years [00:08:00] to get completely clean. I want to be very clear because people are contacting this lady and they expect her to do miracles in one session. I would go every week for two years and it was like four hour sessions every time.

So it was, uh, Plus I had a five hours, three to five hours a day meditation practice. I really put the work in to get clean. It's not a free pass. So

Will: it. That means I'm out.

Patrice: Oh, maybe not because everything is accelerating on the planet. So

Will: Wait, three to five hours? No, I'm out. That's a long time. He struggles with like 45 minutes. That's kind of, I think, the

Karen: marker there for him.

Patrice: yeah, that's already a lot. 45 minutes is already a lot. But meditation has different forms. You can meditate while you do your dishes. It's just being in the present moment. Doing your work right now, it could be a form of meditation. In the present moment.

Will: Okay. Fair enough.

Patrice: yeah, so I was fascinated. And from that point, I started to see augmented reality on people.

I started to see emojis on their bodies when they would touch me like a little heart, if they were happy or in love or a mask, if they were a liar. So I'd like, I had the Google glasses without the Google glasses. [00:09:00] I was like, wow, that is so cool.

Karen: Oh my

Patrice: I'm going to make this, yeah, I'm going to make the story short.

So, uh, When we went back to France, uh, and my wife was sick for many, many years, like more than 10 years. And nobody could figure out what she had. And I said, let's do a session like the lady in Portugal. Like she does for me in the massage, because we would do rituals for cleaning and stuff like this, or, uh, humming, stretching, things like this.

So we did breath work, actually, we did a breath of fire on her belly because she had like digestive issues and stuff like this. And I went Like a maniac, I was like So that was hilarious. We are laughing. We were in tears because this was so ridiculous But our intention was so pure that it actually worked.

I saw a flash Uh, oh my god, what what's this? I received a picture. I just continued breath of fire because I didn't realize this was real And when I got the second flash, I said, Oh my God, this is something, I need to go look it up on Google image. I tapped something on Google, and the first picture that showed up was [00:10:00] my first vision, and it was a parasite.

Uh I don't even know what I typed exactly, but it made no sense. And the first picture was my first vision. And it was a picture of a parasite and the parasite was eating our body from the inside. So it was eating our lungs and tissues. And she had difficulties breathing and everything.

And we got very lucky because it was during a lockdown episode and we did an appointment with a doctor online via Zoom.

They did not do that in France before. They didn't ask us. I said, this is what my wife asked. They didn't even ask us how we got the information. They just believed us and they gave us a prescription. And she was healed from her disease. So it was absolutely incredible.

Will: So you diagnosed your wife's illness, that was your first patient then, your first client, I should say, not patient, your first, your first client, the first person you worked on. Is that right?

Patrice: Yes. The universe had a plan. Obviously, they had a plan to make this. This is real. Look what's going to happen. It was all organized, I believe.

Will: I, I, I [00:11:00] believe you are right. However, When you, when that experience, when you had that experience and your wife was the first one that she, she got better after your flashes and you found her ailment, what made you say, cool, let me do this for more people? a lot of people would, would need a little bit more, validation, I guess.

Did you need that?

Patrice: Some people who are very advanced with energies. Yes. Yes. And I said, what's going on with me? So some people, they just closed their door. I said, sir, you're absolutely nuts.

Will: That's more my speed. Yes. Okay.

Patrice: And then some opened their door. Actually, I went to see a lady in Boulogne sur Mer in the north of France. I don't know my parents, my dad, my mom passed away, but my dad lives in the north of France. And I said, I have to go see this lady. She's Ayurvedic practitioner. Her name is Delphine van der Voort. And I went to see her for a massage, Ayurvedic massage. And she opened the door and she [00:12:00] said, I've been waiting for you for a few days. We have a lot to talk about. She already knew I was going to come. I was blown away. I was like, who is this lady? And she's, she's also super advanced. And she said, uh, you're the first person because she sees a lot of people who awaken.

And she says, you're the first person I see who is not afraid. And, uh, it's a mystery to her. And, uh, it, for me, it was like, to, to answer your question, it was like, I remembered I could do this and it's a normal human thing to access these capacities, like, of course we can do that. It's like breathing or drinking water.

And it was like, no. Yes, it was familiar. It's like, yeah, of course we can do that. And this is what I'm going to do.

Will: Wow. You know, we hear those stories all the time, but I don't, I like. familiar. Like it just seems so foreign to me. I can't even imagine. You know what's familiar to me? Familiar is going down the street and, finding a bar to go drink it. Uh, [00:13:00] not how to heal people or much less that when did your x ray vision start coming in?

Patrice: So you would say it started probably, uh, I mean, full speed, three years after the, when I entered into the light after the meditation, We tried on friends. I tried on friends. We wanted to see what energy work was about. And uh, I did not realize this would happen. I started to see their legs, for example, or something like this.

And uh, so we have a friend who, who was limping and I did a session on him. I'm going to keep this story short 'cause it's all over the internet. And he stopped link limping just after the session. So the guy was making, having his automatic experience, he was like going on and he could blood in his mouth.

It was very.

Karen: Wow.

Patrice: Yeah, and I said, uh, it's a past life because I would see the full movie of the past life. Uh, I say you were kicking somebody in the head and uh, there's blood everywhere. So the guy was reliving the story but from the other side apparently kind of like a life review But in this life, I was kind [00:14:00] of surprised when I did not know anything about life reviews at the time Now you can find this information everywhere uh, and when he God of the massage table, he was not limping anymore.

It's just a fact. It's not like I did anything. It's not just, it's not me. I was not with tools fixing his leg.

Will: Wow.

Karen: Wow. That's a, that's incredible.

Will: what kind of success stories have you had when, like anything that jumps to mind where you did something besides, I mean, this is a great story, the kick in the head, the taste in the blood, but what kind of things can you help? People deal with,

Patrice: This is very tricky because I don't think it's really me. I think I'm just a channel for the energy. it's not like I'm doing anything with tools. Uh, I have a lot of success with chronic pain. This is, uh, something I really, uh, I'm going to say it's kind of funny, but I love people with pain.

Karen: [00:15:00] you will love me, chronic pain,

Patrice: No, it's because it's undeniable, but it's true. This is what, why I like it. It's not, uh, you do something and there is like an impact three months later because you could always say, yeah, this is pure luck. It happened three, three months later, uh, kind of random. This is, I do things, I shake, I vomit, I, uh, whatever happens, I scream.

Sometimes I scream or I laugh a bit like a maniac, and pain goes away. And, uh, this is undeniable. I have enough data to, okay, I cannot prove it, but there's enough data from all my patients. It's like, Okay, maybe the placebo effect. I have an incredible result with the placebo effect. The doctors have 10 percent.

I have 95 percent. Uh, something's happening clearly.

Karen: yeah, placebo or not, I'll take it.

Patrice: yeah, yeah,

Karen: incredible. It's incredible. So we were really fortunate to be able to experience a session with you. And oh my gosh.

Will: So

Karen: do you want to go first?

Will: No, no.

Karen: Yeah. Mine was [00:16:00] pretty amazing.

Will: Yeah. The only reason why I don't want to go first is because, uh, mines can be pretty anticlimactic because most of the stuff that maybe

Karen: we should do yours and then we can build up to mine.

Will: Well, the, the, the, the stuff that happened with me was all, internal I got a lot of flashes, a lot of visuals that came with it when he was working on things. And like we mentioned, this was this is an extended period of time. This is not, you know, a short, half hour type of deal. He goes deep into these things and he get there's homework involved.

You have to, uh, answer these questions that he puts on screen for you and things like that. So it's, it's a really involved process. And each time that he, uh, okay, we close our eyes and we meditate or I meditate and he's like, start tuning in. And all of a sudden you'd hear things like, like all these kinds of weird things and things would happen.

And then. I would get these flashes, these, I got these visuals that were incredible things that I don't know that I've ever had such vivid imagery before as, as I experienced when [00:17:00] I was working with Patrice. And, and there were, there were things that, um, I would see after we finished the one short session, he would then say, okay, what did you experience?

And I would explain to him and That's because blue and oh my God, it's like he would connect all the dots. It was pretty incredible for me. however, I did not, develop clairvoyance. Which I was very, very disappointed about Patrice, but let's, let's go for it.

Patrice: You just said you had amazing visuals. What

Will: I did. Yeah, but, but they don't, they didn't continue.

They did, they only, when I was connected with you. So either you hang out with me all the time or I'm just, I'm just going to have to live with the fact that I just experienced it and move on.

Patrice: Or I can send you a picture of me and you can put a photo of me on your wall. I don't know if your wife will agree, but

Karen: a little necklace and wear it. Yeah. It can always be by your heart.

Will: And suddenly you get weird.

Patrice: Oh no, I'm going to become a guru. No, please. [00:18:00] No.

Will: But, but no, it was, it was, I would say that in its first thing Patrice says when he, you log on is, um, I'm just going to do this. And sometimes it works and it doesn't. And you know, hopefully things you'll feel something. Hopefully it won't be where you used to go that this guy is, I don't feel anything.

This has nothing to do with it. But. I did. I felt some stuff like some stuff happened and I can't quite wrap my head around exactly what happened.

Karen: So what did you feel?

Will: Um.

Karen: Physically? Did you feel something physically? Not

Will: like you. You had some physical things that we're going to talk about. I'm really excited to talk about.

But it wasn't a physical thing. For me, it was mostly. Um. A mental thing. It was mostly the images of flashes that, explained a lot of things for me. It's without, without getting into too much detail and giving too much away, uh, certain things inside of me were explained very clearly by the flashes, the imagery that I got.

And that's because Patrice was working on specific parts of my psyche, my body that triggered different things. And that's the way that I know this stuff [00:19:00] is. Legit because he would work on something and it would immediately trigger a response. And I'm not typical of the guy that typically the kind of guy that imagines things that sees things when he's meditating.

Um, but, but this time I was, I was, it was pretty astonishing to the point where, I mean, I think right after, right after the session, I went right downstairs immediately and said, Oh my God, Karen, I got to talk to you about this. Uh, because some of the things, some of the imagery that I experienced was, It was so vivid.

It was almost like you were there. Like I was there. That was pretty amazing.

Patrice: Yeah, I raise a vibration and it's like you basically are on mushrooms or you are scarred. It's the same thing. You get to the same level of vibration without the plant, uh,

Will: and without the vomit, which is a good

Patrice: the vomit too. You

Will: Yes. Yes.

Patrice: to see what people describe. So I've never been around monks in Nepal or something like this, but that's what people describe.

They say if you stand to monks, your vibration gets higher and you access automatically to gifts. It's just, uh, [00:20:00] How it is, this is where we're going with 5D earth.

Will: And I would say probably the reason why I didn't continue having visuals is probably because I didn't allow myself to. I think I probably just, uh, I don't know if I disconnected or what it was, but I mean, um, there was something about when we were connected that, that had a very direct line to allowing me to have these, these visions and, I've not experienced it since.

So very sad,

Patrice: Yeah, but it's also what for if you don't have a what for you don't get visions So let's say somebody would ask you for help and you would tune in meditate You would receive visuals for them because everybody can do this. Yeah, it's what for if he has no use you will get no picture That's that's important.

That's what my mentor told me. What for what for what do you want to do this? What for it was very tough, uh, you would get very grumpy. Why do you want to do this? What for? I

Will: what for what to, to, to experience cool stuff. That's what for,

Patrice: Yeah, but it does not work. It, it has to be for the, it has to be for the greater good. So if you find somebody who needs [00:21:00] help and is ready to receive help, you can, uh, sure.

Will: All right. Well, then Karen.

Karen: Okay.

Will: This is, this is, this is where it gets deep. So this is what you've been waiting for.

Karen: So, um, we we've talked about this before. Whenever we do a podcast, Will goes in, he does the research and I just kind of show up so that I have very genuine uneducated reactions or responses.

Will: Unbiased, I would say.

Karen: Well, I mean, they're not educated about the person.

Will: Sure. You know what I

Karen: mean? Like, I, you know, I had no idea what Patrice did and he said, we're going to have these sessions. You have to fill out some stuff online. I'm like, okay, what's it about? He's like, I'm not going to tell you. All right, here we go.

So I go through and I fill out the questionnaire and, you know, we have the conversation ahead of time and he kind of gave me a little bit of an idea of what to expect now when we've had people do energy work on us before and we'll be like, Oh my God, did you feel that? And I'm always like, uh, and I'm like, I'm just going to say yes.

Cause I feel bad. Oh my gosh. It was probably about halfway through the session. Well, [00:22:00] first of all, you know, he was talking and talking about energies and, and he, he had, he threw up some energy. So, you know, I guess I had some bad energy, but all of a sudden, like I noticed that I'm rocking side to side. And it's just a little bit, you know, not, not too much.

I'm like, huh, that's weird. And then it's like a lot and I'm like, okay, am I doing this? I'm going to stop myself. So I stopped myself like, okay, that was just me doing it. And then I kind of let, cause I was holding onto the desk. So I let go of the desk and within seconds it started happening again. And it was pretty like big.

I was like, you know, I don't know. A couple of inches each way. It was, it was like, like, you know, like this, I guess.

Will: Now, hang on. Were you, were you rocking yourself? Were you moving yourself? No, that's

Karen: what I said. I thought, am I doing this? So I stopped myself. So I like put my feet down. I grabbed the desk and just kind of like, you know, planted myself.

And then I'm like, okay, I'm going to let go now. So I let go my eyes and I closed my eyes back and then it just started happening again. And it wasn't, I was not doing anything. It was. Incredible.

Will: You were not doing anything, but something was being done to you. Yes.

Karen: I was being like shifted back and [00:23:00] forth and back and forth and back and forth.

And it happened, I think, three or four times. And then it would stop. And he would say something like, I'm going to go, I don't remember now, like, I'm going to go out of the room and come back or something. Or he'd say, okay, we're going to stop this energy wave. And it was like that, and it would stop. I'm like, all right, I'm doing this.

You know, I totally thought there was something I was doing, but I absolutely was not, it was incredible. It was really incredible.

Will: Well, it's interesting that you say that because it just, I just, you reminded me of something that did happen during my session also, that there was one point where he was talking about, uh, moving my head in a certain way.

And for some, like, I didn't. Move it at all. I, it, it actually, like my head was moved. Um, it looked to a certain direction, forgot exactly what it was, but there were a couple of different times where it was like that, where I wasn't moving, but something moved me. And that was pretty, pretty amazing.

Karen: It was also interesting because he would ask, you know, do you have permission to let this go or whatever?

And, you know, you think you want to say yes, but I was like, nope. It's like, yes, yes. Nope. And [00:24:00] he's like, no, I guess I just wasn't ready to, to get rid of whatever energy that, that has been bothering me. But it was, it was incredible. It really was incredible. I was floored. I've never experienced something like that.

I mean, it was so direct and I've had, I have had some experiences like we had with the harmonic egg after we had COVID and all of that, but this was like, something was physically moving me back and forth and back and forth and I, I had to hold on to make it stop. It was wild.

Will: So Patrice, what was that?

What was moving her?

Patrice: A higher self, because this is, uh, what's this, this is my personal belief. I believe the human body is designed to repair itself. If you can put your own body into the zone. But we forgot how to do this ourselves. And this is where practitioners come in. We put you into the zone. And, uh, also there's also energy channels.

So this is for true. There's also like, uh, what people would call the angels or beings or ascended masters who come help. Uh. [00:25:00] It's some sort of, uh, self chiropractic. Your body moves and replaces itself. Uh, if you look at animals where they have a broken bone or something like this, we would just lay down on the floor and we would just replace their leg by themselves.

All the human, all the, all the humans have the capacity to repair themselves and help themselves and self heal. But we forgot because we are too busy with life. It's, we're in the noise all the time. We've, uh, So capitalistic society, we don't stop. If we want to stop and listen to our body and speak to our body, we can do this by ourselves.

And this is what many, many, many practitioners are teaching right now. Oh, to heal yourself. We're just facilitators. Uh, and we also like boosters because we can bring energy for real. People feel the energy wave. Some people can see the energy with your beam of light from my body to your body, for example, you can see it, uh, We're just a booster, but you still do the work yourself with uh, it's like you're on the bicycle in [00:26:00] a incline and I'm pushing you in the back so it's easier.

This is basically what we're doing.

Will: And, and we should clarify, this was not in person. This was through, you're in France, uh, and we are in Virginia in the U. S., so we were not in the same room, so there was no way for you to have been rocking her. And yet, somehow, you rocked her.

Karen: Yeah. Oh, also, and I was feeling like, um, pins and needles. I feel like a lot on the top of my head is like pins and needles in my arms and legs too.

That's

Will: true. I felt somatically that as well, not pins and needles, but, but like pressure. I think I was feeling in the head because he does do a scan and he could see, he tells you something's going on with this and when he would focus on a particular part of my body without realizing, because he wouldn't tell me where he was, I would feel it before.

And then, then we'd say, I'd say, I felt this. He goes, yep, that's exactly where it was, but son of a, next time, write it down,

Karen: write

Will: it down. So then I'll say it was this and you show them the written thing. So I could see that that's how you, you know, that's what [00:27:00] we, that's what we should've done. Well,

Karen: you have those sessions recorded. Yes. No. Go back and watch it.

Will: But, but I'm saying. Oh,

Karen: but just outside your head.

Will: Yeah. Yeah. No. So, so I'm saying like, if I would say, if I were to say, well, I felt it in my left leg, he put down, put up the sign and go, see, and he would have written the left leg. That's what he was working on. So there, and we talked about that during the session, like next time, that's what he's going to do.

So we're

Patrice: yeah, but then you would say maybe, yeah, next time you see, oh yeah, but maybe you have 20 signs and you pick the right one.

Will: Dang it.

Karen: Well, you just got to believe, let go of that need to have to have the proof. I mean, what more proof can you have?

Will: But that's the thing, right? With this especially, if you're not open to this, it could feel really awkward. Like there, there, there, Patrice does things, he says things, he like vocalizes things.

And if you're, if you go into it like expecting all the, what the heck is going on, then, then, then it's going to be very, very strange because it is a very strange experience. I would think you, you would, you would admit, even Patrice would say it [00:28:00] was a strange experience.

Patrice: yeah, strange today, I'm like, am I making this? I don't know.

Will: so it's, it's imperative that you go into this. Open. Mm hmm. Because had I not come into it open, I probably would have gone, no, I felt nothing. But yet the fact that I went into it open and I allowed myself to just go with the experience, I think that's what allowed me to feel things and allowed me to have these visions, the images, the visuals that I got, which were so incredible.

And I think it's also important not to go in expecting someone else's experience. Because our experiences were totally different. So if I would expect to see visions, I'd have been like, well, that didn't work. And I probably would not have let myself experience whatever that was. Right. Which

is exactly why I didn't tell you what happened in my session.

So listener, forget everything we just said. If you reach out to Patrice, forget everything we just said, because yours is going to be completely different.

Karen: Totally different.

Will: Uh, and, and I would say,

Patrice: every experience is unique, which is true. Uh, cannot compare to two [00:29:00] sessions. It's impossible. I'm blown away every time. I'm like, Oh my God, something new happened. How is this possible?

Will: And I, and I do recommend that you reach out if nothing else, just to experience it, because it was. It was pretty remarkable. I would say it was pretty remarkable.

Karen: And bonus, you get to listen to his beautiful accent for the whole time. It just sounds so nice.

Will: Yeah, but be prepared because he does have a questionnaire that you've got to answer during the session.

And, uh, I was, I was not prepared for that. So what do you mean? I got to answer questions. And it's a good question of where, where is she putting the questions? So, it's, it's a full robust session.

Karen: Absolutely.

Patrice: that can take a long time. Sometimes sessions last three hours and my wife is like, Oh my God, your session lasted three hours. Yeah, I'm taking the time it takes with people. As

Karen: That's wonderful too, that you're just, you're in for the whole healing. It's not just like, well, I got an hour, you know, that's, I really appreciate that you take your time with the people and you follow through and you finish the whole session, even if it takes a little longer, that is fantastic. So

Patrice: as there's energy flowing, I [00:30:00] continue. I don't want to be a factory.

Will: have you ever had a session and after the session, someone goes, What the hell was that? like I didn't feel anything, or you didn't feel anything. Has there ever been any time when something's been blocked?

Patrice: Yes, once a guy says, you're the medical intuitive, you're supposed to know what I have, I'm not telling you anything. The guy was completely closed. Uh, I got nothing. That was a worse session. But I also had a session, which was actually yesterday. A nurse. She says I'm 64 years old and I'm going to retire next year.

I don't know what to do with my life. She came to see me for this. I don't know what to do with my life. She wants some guidance. That's not the thing, the kind of thing I do. This is not my job. Oh, okay. And then I do the session because I didn't know what to do. And she starts to see things and she started to see inside my wife's body.

So my wife was next to me. I don't know why she was there that day. It was another plan of the universe. And she started to see, Oh, you have a problem with your [00:31:00] eye, blah, blah. And the nurse was in tears. She was like, what this? I'm, I'm losing my mind. I'm can see into your wife's body. she got completely activated within 30 minutes.

And actually it was her session. Ended up being a training for her. so she already knows her new career. She's going to do pretty good intuitive and help people. Plus she has a nursing background. So this is going to be, this is going to be huge. she was in, she was in tears. She says, am I making this up?

And she could see with her eyes open in augmented reality. It

Karen: Wow.

Patrice: yeah, I was, she blew my mind.

Karen: Betweze,

Will: is it when you say that you can see into someone's body, is it, I mean, can you see into someone's body or is it you're intuiting something?

Patrice: No, no. Oh, it depends. sometimes I see a holographic, picture full HD. sometimes it's animation. I have another client who activated it. I work with her now. She also can see inside body, she can see the heart beating an animation like a MRI machine, but full HD colors. Yes,

Will: [00:32:00] Like, wait, wait, visually you see this? You see the hologram? You see this stuff? Or you, you see it in your mind?

Patrice: no, you, you see it for real.

Will: Okay,

Patrice: when you, when you had your experience with me, you had pictures that were full, full HD like this, but sometimes it's a little movie. It's an the hard thing

Will: yeah, but my images were mostly their visuals. My eyes were closed. I was, I was, I was seeing it in my mind. I wasn't seeing it with my eyes. It sounds like you can see these things with your eyes open or is that not the case?

Patrice: for me. I need to close my eyes still so we see a picture. Full HD. So I know I see with the third eye. I know I would be able to see with my eyes open. Eventually I still need to practice some more. I'm not at that level like the lady yesterday. Uh, she takes practice. It's like everything. If you want to be, uh, to be good, you need to practice, but it doesn't matter.

And sometimes I I do not see a picture. I just know, for example, I know there's a problem with the liver. I just know. I don't need the [00:33:00] picture. received the message that, they prefer to direct 100 percent of the energy to the patient. Instead of just a cinematographic show for me, because it makes no sense.

If it takes energy, I might as well help the person than just receive a movie in my head, uh, that makes no sense.

Will: Okay. In light of that, I do believe that I saw some stuff then. Yes. I think I'm getting it. All right. You saw some

Karen: stuff. I

Will: did while I was connected while I was connected with Patrice. Now I don't see nothing, but I got to get connected with Patrice in order to see stuff. That's what

Patrice: No, you don't! You can ask your wife to ask you questions about her health, for example, and you will receive messages, you will receive pictures. Because this is what's going to happen with the new Earth. Uh, there will be, uh, somebody like this in every neighborhood, and maybe it's you.

Will: That's too much pressure.

Patrice: Uh, you said you wanted to help the world, save the planet, and you cannot help your neighborhood!

Will: I

Karen: can't help your wife. Come on. I

Will: do. But what if I'm wrong? [00:34:00] That wouldn't be helping anybody,

Karen: but you're not using any tools. You're not prescribing anything. So there's no harm done. You're not going to hurt anybody if you're wrong.

Will: I feel like you're having an issue with your thyroid.

Karen,

Karen: I feel like my medicine has been out for a week and I'm very uncomfortable. Yes, I do. I

Will: see that. I see that you are cold and you're getting goosebumps because you're can't warm yourself up enough. Yes.

Karen: That's amazing.

Will: I know.

Patrice: But it's not your thyroid. It's a lack of oxygen. It's from your lung You need to

Will: I was wrong. I was wrong already. I told you

Patrice: No, no,

actually actually you're correct. But this is what this 'cause, this is what happens when I ask for the problem. I see the source of the problem. So maybe somebody's going to tell me I have a problem with my shoulder and I'm going to see the big toe, which makes no sense at the beginning.

That made no sense for me. So there's energy sent to the big toe and the pain in the shoulder disappears. That makes no sense, but I just know it works. Uh, this is where

Karen: my lungs?

Patrice: Yeah, but, uh, that can be [00:35:00] cleared. If you want to do it now, you can do it live.

Karen: I would love that.

Patrice: Let's go. Luke, Will, close your eyes. Maybe you'll get pictures.

Will: Okay. Let's do that. Let's do this.

Patrice: I'm going to try to describe what I see. So it's for me, it's like I see the length. And my body is twisting because there's energy there needs to be an exchange of energy between the energy world and the physical world, which is what I believe. I'm shaking. On the radio you won't see me shaking, but if you find it on YouTube you'll see me.

Coughing, so this is very common in energy work, people don't cough. Okay, take a deep breath. Maybe you can feel a difference [00:36:00] in breathing. Probably feel more open in your chest. This is very common, I don't know why the lungs are, the chest is closed for many, many people. And people can breathe, they're like, Oh my god, I can breathe, take a deep breath.

I still don't know how we can affect this remotely. It's a mystery, but it's, it's beautiful to see. And people are so happy. And Will is in the zone, he's seeing stuff. He's like, Oh my god, Patrice, stay with me. Give me your phone number. I'll send you some hair, I have five hairs left.

Will: they all from your nose? I don't want them. Oh

Karen: How do we go from healing me to nose hair?

Will: Just lucky, I guess.

Patrice: So what happened? Anything on your side?

Karen: I feel very relaxed, yeah, I mean, I was feeling like a little bit of [00:37:00] something like a, like a, like a little bit of a vibration inside. Not, not as strong as last time, like nothing like that, but I was feeling like a little bit of a vibration.

Will: Yeah, I think it would be hard to feel the same depth that you felt that first time in this environment.

I think it's, it's, you know, we're on the spot, we're recording, it's just kind of weird, you know.

Patrice: Yeah, you need to get in the zone now.

Karen: Thank you.

Patrice: You're welcome. Will, did you get any picture?

Will: No, I, I tried and then probably it's because I tried so hard, like I tried too hard and I wasn't getting anything unfortunately this time around,

Patrice: Yeah, you have to let go of expectations. This is a trick. This is, the mind is a trick.

Will: Yeah. And I think the first time I really took the time to each time we went down, I took the time to really allow myself to fall into the void, like to meditate, like, like really drop in, I guess is what, what the term is. I wasn't able to drop in here. I was too, I'm too conscious of the microphone in front of my face.

Patrice: I'm very blessed, I can drop in in one second.

Karen: That's

Patrice: Some people can see that. They see me leaving my body. They say, oh my god, you left your body. I say, oh, you [00:38:00] can see that? I didn't even realize I was leaving my body.

Karen: Wow.

Patrice: That's how advanced people are. It's like, uh, yeah, people already have their 5D GIFs activated.

So many people, it's like nobody talks about it because people are afraid. But we need to bring that on the table. People need to hear those stories.

Karen: absolutely. Absolutely.

Patrice: People are so advanced, what they can see. I'm like blown away by what people can see, hear, feel, uh, feel humbled. Every time I'm in front of a person like this, which is very often, I'm like, whoa.

Will: All right. Well, we actually recorded the sessions that you gave us and we may or may not release it to our members. So stick around because we might have, an announcement coming up here shortly. So how about, how's that for cryptic

Patrice: oh,

Will: though, Patrice, what kind of things can you help people with?

Patrice: well, usually people write to me, they say, can you help me? And I hear yes or no, I cannot help with everything. Uh, I believe some diseases or [00:39:00] conditions are contracted. We incarnate to experience being sick and this I cannot help. Things I can help, I don't know exactly how that works. But people with eczema or skin problems, so yeah, they just disappear.

So it's not instant. But they feel, for example, a heat wave on their body. Sometimes it takes one or two sessions. It's very rare that it takes more than one session. And three months later, they write back to me, saying, Oh my God, I don't have my eczema anymore.

Will: So wait, I need to call out what you just said. You said that most, it's very rare that people need more than one session

Karen: for eczema,

Will: for

Patrice: Not even in general.

Will: in general,

Patrice: Yes, this is what people describe. It's like the energy I use is very, very fast compared to other technologies that exist. well, this is kind of tricky to say because people are like, Patricia of the big head. this is just what people told me. So I'm just repeating because I cannot see that.

Uh, people who are very advanced with energy. I've met a shaman from Amazonia who could see that too. So. [00:40:00] Guy is, he's connected all the time. It's Patrice, you're like a scanner of light, but this is what you described. I've attuned many people to this technology. So I know other people are bringing it to the planet now.

and also, how am I going to say this? I'm very, very good at cleaning, very dark stuff. And when there's a need to continue, I send people to the best practitioner for them. I have a very good address book. I received the name of the practitioner who is the most suited for their problem. So, um, uh, my real gift, what somebody told me and I really resonated with that, is that my real gift is networking.

So, I'm not a salesperson, I'm not going to say, oh, you need to come back for one, two, three, four, five sessions. Go see this person, she can solve your problem. Problem sometimes I even receive an email and say I'm not the best person for you. Go see this Practitioner she can help you because I received it in my ear directly And some people say no.

So you're in an interview. I want to work with you I say yeah, but i'm not the best person for you And this is the best way I can help you is that you don't go Come to see me![00:41:00]

Karen: like, right.

Patrice: I want the best, I want the best for people, which, yeah, that's what everybody should, want, the best

Karen: Absolutely.

Will: Yeah. Yeah. That's astounding. Thank you. Thank you for your service. You're really helping people. And that's, that's rare, unfortunately, these days to find someone that's truly genuinely wants to help folks. But if

Patrice: No, I don't agree. It's not rare. It's just that we cannot find those people because we have no ego, so we don't advertise. And there are millions of people like me. I'm not unique.

Will: you're right, actually, in the people that, that do advertise and put stuff out there, you don't want to say, what was it that the term, uh, those that yell the loudest have the most to hide. That's the one. So if, if someone wanted to experience this for themselves, what's the best way for someone to reach out to you?

Patrice: So you can go to my website, patrick christofiak. com. There's too many X, Y, Z, it's like, uh, 70 points at Scrabble. Uh,

Will: vouch for that.

Patrice: Yeah, yeah. Uh, and I also have group session every Saturday where I do the [00:42:00] list of questions that you mentioned. people really love that. I have incredible results. people paint that just vanishes during sessions.

It's the best way, uh, to experience it for a very, uh, cheap cost. It's, um, it's like two or three Saturdays a month. Uh, the sessions last two hours and at the end of the session, Oh, sorry, this is hard to say at 1am. At the end of the session, I pick some random people who raise their hand and I address their questions so we can experience what I do.

So maybe they will be picked or not. Uh, yeah, I was, I was blown away by the group sessions. Uh, I want to speak a little bit about that if we have time, because people, because there are people who can see energies and they were in a group session and we see. Every individual receive, uh, energy in, uh, individual state for what they have.

And I was blown away because the group is not treated as a whole, it's individualized, and it's really amazing. And they say, we didn't know that was possible. I said, well, I didn't know it was impossible, so I just tried! Ha ha [00:43:00] ha

Karen: Yeah.

Will: Well, you will have seen, if you're watching this on YouTube, you'll have seen that website up on the screen. If you're listening to it, just go to skeptic metaphysician. com. We'll add a direct link in the show notes so you can reach out to Patrice because there are too many K's and Z's and Y's in there.

You really need to just have a direct link, it's much easier.

Patrice: Yes!

Will: well, Patrice, this has been wonderful. It's been a pleasure getting to know you. It's been a pleasure experiencing your, your gifts, firsthand. And I hope that we will find a way to stay in touch because the good that you're doing for the world it's something to behold for sure.

Karen: Absolutely.

Patrice: Thank you so much for having me on your show, it was amazing.

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