Love Pat with AJ Hawk.

If AJ were a permanent co-host, I’d give this 5 stars. Love the interplay between the two (loved their Laces Out podcast with Jerry Thornton.) Pat is likable and entertaining. I wish the shows could be a little tighter- when they go over 2 hours it’s a bit much. But Pat with the boys are good. He seems to have more time interviews lately and his interview style is unique and refreshing.