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Ezra Klein, journalist, political analyst, and podcaster sits with Erik Torenberg to go deeper into the intellectual movement of supply-side progressivism and what Silicon Valley misses about politics. This conversation was recorded in early February 2023, but is even more relevant today.
Ezra Klein, journalist, political analyst, and podcaster, sits with Erik Torenberg to go deeper into the intellectual movement of supply-side progressivism and what Silicon Valley misses about politics. This conversation was recorded in early February 2023, but is even more relevant today. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/UPSTREAM
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Preview of Ezra discussing Elon Musk
(02:16) Unpacking supply side liberalism and the abundance agenda
(07:55) Contrasting Ezra’s Buildism with Marc Andreessen and Tyler Cowen
(12:20) Why we can't build
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(18:47) Unions
(21:06) Ezra on what Silicon Valley misunderstands about politics
(24:15) Abundance agenda is bipartisan, but will polarize
(27:05) Ezra on immigration and free trade
(31:08) Reinterpreting Ezra’s book Why We’re Polarized in 2023
(34:30) Institutional distrust
(39:10) Davos elite v. Tech Elite v. Crypto Elite
(47:10) What makes Elon right wing?
(51:50) Chris Caldwell’s theory of polarization
(53:50) Has the left gone too far left?
(01:00:15) What the president can actually do
(01:04:40) The deep state
(01:07:00) Where he differs from Patrick Collison
(01:10:15) Equality of opportunity vs a sufficient floor
(01:12:00) Why inequality matters
(01:14:27) Billionaires buying media platforms
(01:16:55) Elon and the era of the trickster god
(01:20:30) Ezra’s book recommendation
SOCIAL LINKS:
Erik’s Twitter: @eriktorenberg
Ezra’s Twitter: @ezraklein
Podcast Twitter: @Upstream__Pod
Erik’s Substack: eriktorenberg.substack.com
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