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AI Meets Geopolitics w/ Samo Burja and Nathan Labenz

Today on Upstream, we’re releasing an episode which originally aired on @CognitiveRevolutionPodcast a podcast from the Turpentine Network. Samo Burja and Nathan LeBenz discuss AI's impact on geopolitics, scientific progress, and economic strategies, emphasizing the importance of AI science, the risks of weaponizing AI, and the future of industrial and energy policies in the U.S. and China.

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🎙️‪The @CognitiveRevolutionPodcast
The Cognitive Revolution is a podcast about AI where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock over the next decades.
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🎙️@LivePlayerswithSamoBurja
Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg provide analysis of the news and case studies of Live Players, as well as key institutions and technologies that make up the global power landscape.
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LINKS:

The Cognitive Revolution Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai
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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro
(00:59) AI's impact on geopolitics and scientific progress
(03:04) Theoretical insights and scientific progress in AI
(06:12) Challenges and surprises in AI development
(09:29) The role of AI scientists and the future of AI
(18:11) Sponsors: GiveWell | Squad
(21:00) AI's influence on global economic growth
(30:21) Industrial policy and the US-China competition
(41:03) Global AI players: Beyond the US and China
(42:50) The rise of Indian and European AI giants
(46:07) US-China AI rivalry: Origins and implications
(48:13) The chip ban: Strategic missteps and consequences
(50:13) The future of AI: Industrial revival and scientific grants
(59:01) Weaponization of AI: Risks and ethical concerns
(01:14:13) Open source and sovereign AI: Balancing innovation and security
(01:15:29) Generative AI in personal workflows
(01:18:48) Wrap