In this episode of Upstream, we’re releasing Erik Torenberg’s interview from 2023 with Kevin Kelly, founding executive editor of Wired Magazine, discussing Kevin’s new advice book, the impact of gratitude, and how technology, especially AI, interacts with and shapes human existence and culture.

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LINKS:
Kevin Kelly's book: Excellent Advice for Living: https://www.amazon.com/Excellent-Advice-Living-Wisdom-Earlier/dp/0593654528

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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:50) Kevin Kelly on the nature of advice
(02:07) The power of gratitude and emotional intelligence
(05:39) Human instincts and social dynamics
(13:33) Sponsors: Oracle | Adquick
(15:33) The population collapse and future of humanity
(19:16) AI, human evolution, and speciation
(24:28) The biological limits of AI and speciation
(24:45) Existential risks and AI indifference
(26:13) Debunking AI domination myths
(28:39) The Neanderthal analogy and AI evolution
(29:59) Sponsors: Incogni | Squad
(32:11) The future of technology and humanity
(35:42) The invention of humanity and language
(47:03) The role of failure in innovation
(48:03) Wrap