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The Future of AI-Enabled Companies with Omar Shams, CEO of Mutable AI

Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg are joined by Omar Shams, the founder of Mutable AI, for a deep dive into Omar’s great piece, The AI Organization. In this conversation, they explore the potential of AI to transform organizational productivity, the limitations of financial metrics in GDP, and AI's role in political processes and societal structures.

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LINKS:

Byrne Hobart’s writing: https://thediff.co

Omar Sham’s piece: https://blog.mutable.ai/p/the-ai-organization-part-i


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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro
(01:22) Historical context of technological adoption
(04:47) The Al Organization
(07:15) Economic theories and Al
(13:00) Capitalism vs. Communism
(17:01) Sponsors: Brave | Squad
(19:10) Role of Al in future economies
(20:32) Al's impact on company sizes
(25:50) Al and political influence
(31:27) Effect of Al on legal services
(33:35) Complexity of GDP and human preferences
(43:36) Future of Work and Al Integration
(56:03) Al adoption in various sectors
(01:05:39) Outro