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Jan. 28, 2025

Breaking Through Reorg Paralysis

Kelli and Nolan tackle a listener's frustration with a painfully slow reorg process, diving into the eternal tension between perfect planning and actually running the business. When HR and legal reviews stretch into week four...

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Jan. 23, 2025

Smart Hiring with Tom Clayton

Tom Clayton, COO of Peek, shares his unconventional playbook for building world-class teams. From his data-driven "employee attribute chart" to his rule of "don't be a brand b***h," Tom breaks down how he's scaled companies f...

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Jan. 21, 2025

When Success Means New Bosses: A Startup Growth Story

Kelli and Nolan unpack the delicate art of layering – that awkward moment when someone gets a new boss – while calling out the pitfalls of secret searches and celebrating the often-forgotten heroes of early startup days. Equa...

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Jan. 17, 2025

Unlocking HR's Hidden Insights with Siadhal Magos [AI Corner]

Think AI is just about robots summarizing your emails? Think again. Metaview co-founder and CEO Siadhal Magos reveals how AI's real impact in an org is making sense of workplace conversations, performance reviews, and all the...

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Jan. 15, 2025

Adapting to Startup Reality and Having More Impact

Nolan and Kelli talk about the culture shock of moving from corporate behemoths to the startup wild west. They share battle-tested wisdom on surviving the transition - from mastering the art of founder relationships to embrac...

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Jan. 10, 2025

The Art of Not Getting Fired for Not Firing People

Kelli and Nolan start with a heartfelt discussion about LA fires before diving into the art of handling CEO mandates for attrition targets. They reveal insider strategies for transforming harsh directives into meaningful perf...

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Jan. 9, 2025

The Anti-Org Chart: Why Colin Zima Traded HR for Chaos (and Won)

Colin Zima, former Looker exec turned Omni CEO, reveals how he runs a 65-person Series B startup with no HR or G&A team. Learn why he believes in minimal bureaucracy, why founders should do the "dirty work," and what really b...

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Jan. 2, 2025

Big Tech Alumni: Help or Hindrance? with Bryan Power

From Square to Nextdoor, Bryan Power reveals why copying Big Tech's playbook might be your biggest mistake. Find out why Square banned hiring from the payments industry while building a payments company. Discover how conventi...

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Dec. 31, 2024

The Very Best of Heretics 2024

Happy New Year from HR Heretics! Together, we've built something extraordinary: a community of forward-thinking HR professionals who dare to question the status quo, welcome straight talk, and thrive on healthy debate. In tod...

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Dec. 20, 2024

The Year End Special: Personal L’s, Big Wins, and Why Headcount is De…

It’s been quite a year! Kelli and Nolan bare it all in their 2024 wrap-up. Get their must-read books, binge-worthy podcasts, and raw personal journeys - including Kelly's identity crisis and Nolan's toughest year yet. Plus, h...

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Dec. 18, 2024

Striking at the Heart of the Future of Work | AI Corner with Siadhal …

Are digital workers coming for your job? In this episode, Metaview CEO Siadhal Magos— our resident AI expert— breaks down the rise of AI-powered SDRs and what it means for the future of work. From 11x.ai's $75M raise to repl...

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Dec. 13, 2024

Why Messy is Good and Structure is Overrated

Ever wondered why your HR team feels like a bunch of separate countries? Tune in as Kelli and Nolan reveal why mixing your People Ops like finger paint might be the secret sauce to scaling – and why that messy feeling means y...

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Dec. 12, 2024

Be an Infinite Learner with Chris Yeh

Chris Yeh – author, venture partner, and co-writer of Blitzscaling (with Reid Hoffman) – shares insights from his multifaceted career as a Silicon Valley insider. Yeh discusses staying relevant in tech, the necessary skill of...

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Dec. 6, 2024

Stop Saying You're a Business Partner (And Actually Be One) with Jeff…

Tired of hearing "HR needs to be more business-focused" without any real direction? In this episode, Kelli and Nolan cut through the noise with actionable insights from veteran CPO Jeff Diana. Learn why joining sales calls, u...

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Dec. 3, 2024

C-Suite Budget Scrutiny? with Colleen McCreary

Ever wonder what happens when HR leaders get real about C-suite scrutiny? Join Kelli, Nolan and friend of the podcast, Colleen McCreary, as they spill the tea on transforming those dreaded "show me the numbers" moments into p...

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Nov. 26, 2024

The 3AM People Leader: Donald Knight of Warner Brothers Discovery

From pioneering parental leave strategies to 3 AM workout sessions, Warner Bros Discovery's SVP of People Donald Knight reveals how vulnerability, authenticity, and physical discipline shape exceptional leadership. Donald joi...

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Nov. 21, 2024

Feedback Isn't a Gift, It's a Workout | Culture Amp CEO Didier Elzinga

Didier Elzinga, Culture Amp's CEO, drops bombshell insights about why most leaders get growth wrong, reveals shocking data about manager vs. leader impact, and explains why treating feedback like an all-you-can-eat menu is de...

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Nov. 19, 2024

Beyond the Red Flags: Managing Leadership Evolution

How do you navigate a founding CTO's transition when they're struggling to scale? Kelli and Nolan share hard-won wisdom on avoiding common pitfalls: don't rush to judgment, build trust first, and respect the deep bonds betwee...

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Nov. 14, 2024

HR's Legal Blindside: The Litigation Wave

Melanie Naranjo, Chief People Officer at Ethena, joins Kelli and Nolan to tackle the surge in employee litigation facing modern companies. In an era where employees are increasingly using legal terms like 'discrimination' and...

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Nov. 12, 2024

The Myth of the Perfect Candidate

Today Kelli and Nolan tackle a real-world HR career challenge: a candidate who received feedback that while they could handle their current role, the hiring manager was unsure about their ability to scale with company growth....

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Nov. 7, 2024

From Department of No to Strategic Partner: Pendo’s CPO on Modern HR

How do you lead product when your CEO is the product visionary? Pendo's Chief Product Officer Trisha Price reveals the delicate dance of setting boundaries with founder-CEOs, the evolution of HR from gatekeeper to strategic p...

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Nov. 5, 2024

Election Day 2024: Leading Through the Divide

On Election Day 2024, Nolan and Kelli examine how to navigate an increasingly polarized workplace during a contentious election. They discuss the decline of 'presidential' discourse, the impact of social media on political rh...

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Oct. 31, 2024

Beyond Emily in Paris: Navigating French Business Culture and HR Poli…

Former Dashlane HR leader Ciara Lakhani shares her unfiltered journey from New York to Paris tech, debunking myths about French business culture while revealing the art of cross-cultural leadership. From smoke breaks with wor...

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Oct. 29, 2024

From Empty Suits to Real Leaders

In this segment of HR Heretics, Kelli and Nolan discuss "empty suit executives" – a term coined by product leader Tyler Hogge, highlighting executives who manage from above but scoff at doing the work themselves. Is the era o...

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