Starbucks’ Bet On The Third Place | Fast Five Shorts
This Omni Talk Retail Fast Five segment explores Starbucks’ latest turnaround moves, including new store designs, employee bonuses, expanded tipping, and weekly pay.
Chris Walton, Jennifer Meyers, and John Benson analyze whether Starbucks is successfully restoring its brand while balancing café culture, mobile ordering, and drive-thru convenience. They also debate if happier employees can lead to happier customers.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:20 - Starbucks Store Redesign and Employee Benefits
03:21 - Incentive Programs and Employee Experience
06:22 - Evaluating the Future of Employee Compensation
06:50 - The Evolution of Starbucks' Business Model
08:52 - Exploring Customer Preferences
Starbucks is doubling down on its back to Starbucks turnaround with two significant moves this week.
Speaker AThe coffee chain unveiled its new uplifted store designs in Chicago and separately announced a new performance bonus program and expanded tipping options that could put up to 1,200 more dollars per year into Barista's pockets, according to the Chicago Tribune.
Speaker AOn the store design front, Starbucks unveiled one of its first Chicago area uplifted locations on Cicero Avenue in the old Irving park neighborhood.
Speaker AAnd and it features, just wait for it folks, leather couches, cushy chairs, throw rugs, drapes.
Speaker AI see Jen smiling in the background, neighborhood specific art and a decidedly cozier feel.
Speaker AWell, it would have to if it has couches and cushy, cushy chairs.
Speaker AOn the barista compensation front, starting in July 2026, Starbucks will introduce a new quarterly bonus program.
Speaker ABaristas and shift supervisors can earn up to $300 per quarter or $1,200 per year when their location meets or exceeds sales, operational and customer service targets.
Speaker AAnd Starbucks is also expanding tipping options so customers can tip via credit and debit card through mobile, order and pay and scan and pay at the register.
Speaker APreviously, tips were only available on in store cash and card transactions and drive thru.
Speaker AI did not know that all us store employees will also move to weekly pay which is important to starting in August.
Speaker AJohn, on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 to 10, how confident are you that the Back to Starbucks plan is actually working as intended?
Speaker BSo I would say if you're forcing me to scale once, I'm bullish.
Speaker BFirst of all, I would say okay, I'm bullish.
Speaker BSo put bullish at maybe an 8.
Speaker BI don't want to be overly confident and be completely wrong.
Speaker BBut look, I love the, the moves that the company is announcing.
Speaker BFirst of all, just going back to kind of the comments about leadership generally, I think Brian Nicholl watching closely what they're doing on a daily basis at that brand, I love the kind of turnaround plan that they're putting in place.
Speaker BBut some of these specific initiatives that we're talking about here I think are spot on.
Speaker BThere's a saying or an aphorism that we talk about the customer experience is never going to exceed the employee experience.
Speaker BYou know, I think that, you know, the, the best brands out there in restaurant companies like your Chick Fil A's and things like that are known for investing in their teams and doing moves like this.
Speaker BAnd I think that, I think, you know, it's going to pay dividends.
Speaker BYou know, it'll Take some time.
Speaker BYou know, these things, you know, don't happen overnight.
Speaker BAnd it doesn't change kind of behaviors necessarily overnight.
Speaker BBut I think the direction it's going makes a ton of sense.
Speaker BI've seen, and actually we've helped companies implement very similar, like incentive programs.
Speaker BA lot of times in the restaurant space, you know, incentive pay is limited to maybe a general manager, assistant manager.
Speaker BIt doesn't get down to the, to the, in this case, the barista level or the supervisor level.
Speaker BBut I mean, we've, we've done this for a couple of different companies to, frankly, I'll be honest with you, mixed results.
Speaker BSometimes the, you know, the baristas don't always think about it in those terms.
Speaker BOne question I have is the quarterly payout, you know, is that too long for a barista?
Speaker BWhere they say, okay, yeah, you know, they just think about it, you know, more on a shorter or near term basis.
Speaker BThat's some of the challenges that I've seen in the past with these types of incentive programs.
Speaker BBut to me, it's, it's, it's sharing some back, some of the benefits of what they're trying to drive in terms of efficiency and improve profitability of these units.
Speaker BSharing some of that back through, through these incentive programs with the baristas and supervisors, the people on the front lines that they need to help, you know, know, put in place the turnaround plan, to me is, is a great idea and it's, it's hitting on all, all the right messages.
Speaker BSo frankly, I love it.
Speaker AGot it.
Speaker AOkay, John, so based on your experience, I'm curious because they talked about three things.
Speaker AThey talked about, you know, giving more access to tips.
Speaker AThey talk about a quarterly incentive program.
Speaker AThey talked about weekly pay.
Speaker AWhich of those three things in your mind, given your experience will be most enjoyed or liked by the, the, the baristas themselves, if you had to guess.
Speaker BMy guess is that the baristas, it's going to be the weekly pay and the tipping.
Speaker AMe too.
Speaker BAnd then, and then for the supervisors, it's going to be the quarterly incentive.
Speaker BYeah, I think that's just how, how, you know, different people in different stages of their life and different stages of their career, that's kind of just how they think about it.
Speaker BAnd so, I mean, who knows?
Speaker BI mean, but that would be my guess.
Speaker AAnd John, why, why is we, we could pay seems pretty differentiating, but it also seems like that's where my head goes too.
Speaker ALike that's what, if I was an employee, that's what I would want what is it that, what is it that generally prevents like retailers or QSR operations from just doing that to begin with?
Speaker AOr do you think we'll start to see a move in that direction?
Speaker BSo I've, I've done a lot of stuff in my career.
Speaker BOne of the things that I've done, and I won't get into all the backstory or whatever on it is, is help very frontline in the weeds payroll processes, where I was basically helping prepare payroll files and all these different things for, for certain brands that I was working with.
Speaker BAnd I'll be honest with you, it sounds simple and it should be simple, but I think for a lot of companies, some of these processes are, you know, it does take time and some of them are manual.
Speaker BYou're managing exceptions like, because if you're thinking about weekly pay, that means you got to close out the hours and all that kind of stuff and get that correct.
Speaker BSo it does.
Speaker BHaving to do that on a weekly cycle rather than a bi weekly cycle, it just adds twice as much work overall for the managers and the people who have to go through that process and process all of that.
Speaker BSo to me, there's an element of just kind of back office work that needs to get done to do it.
Speaker BSo it doesn't come, it's not as easy as just flipping the switch or whatever.
Speaker BThere's work to do on it.
Speaker BSo I think a lot of it is very practical considerations like that.
Speaker BBut I think they're doing the right thing to say, okay, we're going to do that.
Speaker BWe're going to invest in kind of putting resources and time behind that because we think it's going to make a difference to our teams and hopefully that is reflected in how they interact with the guests and, and implement the different aspects of the plan that they want to, that they want to do.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo, I mean, I think it says a lot about Starbucks too, that they're willing to unwind years and years of doing it at the scale that they are doing it because there's going to be a cost to put this into place, like you said.
Speaker AYes, but they're, they're, they're, they're, they're taking on that cost and trying to do this for the benefits of their employees.
Speaker AAll right, Jed, I'm curious, are you as bullish as John, though?
Speaker AJohn gave it an eight.
Speaker AJohn gave it an eight.
Speaker AI think you can tell which way I'm leading.
Speaker AI'm not quite as bullish, but I want to go to you first.
Speaker ASo like a scale of 1 to 10.
Speaker AHow bullish are you on the back to Starbucks turnaround plan?
Speaker CI wouldn't give a number, but I'd say I'm cautiously optimistic.
Speaker CThey're improving so above a five.
Speaker AA five.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker CI would say closer to where John is, you know, they're improving but it's not proven yet.
Speaker CSo I want to see how it plays out.
Speaker CI think the biggest challenge for Starbucks today is it's really three businesses.
Speaker CIt's a cafe experience, a drive thru QSR and a digital pickup model.
Speaker CI was looking into it and about 60% of their transactions touch the store.
Speaker CBut only half are actually people enjoying the cafe, while the other half is mobile pickup.
Speaker CAnd then Obviously the remaining 40% is drive thru.
Speaker CAnd so these are very different and often competing needs.
Speaker CSo they're doing the right things.
Speaker CThey're reinvesting in partners, as you guys mentioned.
Speaker CThey're simplifying the experience and bringing back the original notion of the third place.
Speaker CBut that tension is going to be the high, that highest ticket experience being in store.
Speaker CIt's actually the least efficient.
Speaker CAnd while drive thru and mobile are what really are driving the throughput and profitability.
Speaker CSo my bullish, my, my, I would say leaning towards the bullishness on is I think they've rediscovered the soul of the brand.
Speaker CBut the question is really going to be whether they can operationalize that at scale.
Speaker AYes, yes, I 100 agree.
Speaker AAnd I think, you know, when I came into this I was like, I was like a five because I was like, I was like right in the middle.
Speaker ABut I think talking to both of you, I'm kind of pushing it up into the 6 to 7 range because I think, you know, you know, as John, you are ticket, you had the quota quote of the show so far, which was the thing you said about, you know, customers in relation to employees.
Speaker AThese are the right moves for the employees.
Speaker AAnd so Jen, to your point, like, even though, you know less and less customers are coming into the store every day, you still need happy employees to run the operations for mobile pickup and a drive through.
Speaker AAnd that's fundamental.
Speaker ASo I like that in terms of the strategy.
Speaker ABut the one thing I just keep coming back to you is no matter how hard I try, every time I interact with Starbucks now it is through the mobile app.
Speaker AAnd so that is going to become an operational throughput.
Speaker AYou did the same thing, right?
Speaker AYou've got your coffee cup right there.
Speaker AAnd so like that's going to become an operational throughput issue over time.
Speaker AThe more and more people.
Speaker AYou push through that and I just don't know that this is enough.
Speaker AThere has to be more things than.
Speaker AThan cozy couches and soft leather sofas and things like that to.
Speaker BTo.
Speaker ATo.
Speaker ATo ameliorate that problem.
Speaker ABut, Jen, I'll give you the last word here.
Speaker CYeah, I mean, as.
Speaker CAs you mentioned, they're trying to essentially determine will that draw customers in.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CLike, is that what customers want anymore?
Speaker CDo they.
Speaker CAre they leaning back into the original notion of Starb, more experiential?
Speaker COr do they prefer things to be transactional in nature?
Speaker CLike the mobile order pickup that I have in my hand.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThe venti, I might add to that.
Speaker ALooks like a venti.
Speaker CIt's early in California.
Speaker AOh, my God.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AYou're.
Speaker AI didn't ask you guys.
Speaker AYou ask you guys where you are to start off.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AIt's very early.
Speaker AOh, my God.
Speaker AFair play to you, Jed.
Speaker AAnd then the.
Speaker AThe traitor.
Speaker AYou need to get the traitor next time.





