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Feb. 13, 2024

On The Record: New Norms for Layoffs in 2024

This segment is sparked by a recent viral video of a layoff recorded by an employee. Kelli and Nolan cover the recent layoffs at Google and Cloudflare, how treatment of an employee during the layoff impacts both the employee ...

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Feb. 9, 2024

Inside M&As, Redesigning Comp, and a Public Company's CPO HR Tool Kit…

In this episode Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church sit down with Brigette McInnis-Day , CPO of UIPath — a people leader at the biggest company we’ve had repped on the podcast to date.Timestamps and the transcript of our episode...

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Feb. 6, 2024

Reversing Roles: Number 1 or Number 2 Seat?

This segment is dedicated to covering what rising mid-career HR professionals really want to know. Janelle Lopez, an incredible HR professional, is brought in to interview us about her next move. Janelle, who worked at Yahoo ...

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Jan. 30, 2024

The Interview Process is Fundamentally Broken: Linear's Move to Work …

The only reason we do interviews is because we’ve done them in the past. Hear Nolan and Kelli discuss Linear’s recent announcement that they’re moving from interviews to work trials for all candidates ( https://twitter.com/li...

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Jan. 26, 2024

Katelin Holloway Thinks More HR People Need a VC Checkbook

In this episode Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church sit down with Katelin Holloway, founding partner at VC firm 776 which she started with Alexis Ohanian. Holloway, the former VP of People at Reddit, shares insights from her exp...

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Jan. 18, 2024

Andreessen Horowitz's Matt Oberhardt on Backchannels, Mock Interview…

In this episode of HR Heretics, we have a conversation with Matt Oberhart, partner at Andreessen Horowitz, about the complexities of recruiting executives and finding talent.

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Jan. 11, 2024

Symphony AI's Jen Trzepacz on Comp Transparency, Yahoo's Early Days, …

Jen Trzepacz, or JT as she's widely known, is a Silicon Valley vet (Yahoo, EA, Salesforce, Living Social) and currently the CPO of SymphonyAI. JT joins Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church to talk about how HR needs to be expertl...

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Jan. 8, 2024

Getting Honest About DEI in 2024: A Conversation with Colleen McCrear…

Colleen McCreary and David Hanrahan join Nolan and Kelli to offer their takes on the progress DEI has made over the years, the current camps in this debate, and the necessity of founders and companies to better understand their own …

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Jan. 4, 2024

The Enigmatic Q Hamirani on Turnarounds, AI, and the CPO Grind

Q Hamirani, the Chief People Officer at Paper, joins Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church to talk about how to navigate the CPO seat under immense pressure, the real deal behind Airbnb's remote work policy, how design thinking helps solve people …

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Dec. 28, 2023

A Deep Dive on Firing Executives

Kelli and Nolan break down every facet, lever, and little known facts behind successfully exiting execs on the Run The Numbers podcast

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Dec. 21, 2023

VC Dan Portillo, Founder/GP of The GP on being the Godfather of Talen…

Dan Portillo is the founder and GP of The General Partnership, a fund that prioritizes talent in a network-based approach. Formerly he was early-Mozilla and then went on to Greylock where he carved out a role as a talent partner.

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Dec. 15, 2023

Segment: Is the DEI movement in Tech Causing More Harm than Good?

Kelli and Nolan discuss their different perspectives on the effectiveness of DEI initiatives and the temperature in tech businesses right now.

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Dec. 14, 2023

E9: Navigating the CEO-CPO Relationship with Lattice's Cara Brennan A…

Cara Brennan Allamano is the Chief People Officer at Lattice and previously at Udemy, Pinterest, and Adobe. Nolan and Kelli talk to Cara about building effective relationships with CEOs, undergoing layoffs with dignity, and the importance of saying "no" when …

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Dec. 7, 2023

Brett Queener Unfiltered: A Wake Up Call for Tech, 2024 Planning, and…

Brett Queener is a partner at Bonfire Ventures, with a background extending to nearly every function as an operator at Salesforce, Smart Recruiters, and more. Brett is well-versed in the mechanics of early-stage companies and this conversation covers the death …

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Nov. 30, 2023

The HR Insider: Melanie Naranjo, VP People at Ethena Gets Real

In this episode, Melanie, Kelli and Nolan dig into the current sentiment in HR, why the bar is set lower than it should be, why you should abandon PIPs, instilling a culture of feedback among execs, and why EQ isn’t …

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Nov. 21, 2023

David Hanrahan on High Performance: Comp Strategy, Performance Cycles…

David Hanrahan is the Chief People Officer of Flare and a highly respected people leader. David joins Kelli and Nolan for an unfiltered discussion on pushing for high performance in your company, normalizing scorecards, and what separates the best HR …

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Nov. 16, 2023

Steve Cadigan on Blitzscaling LinkedIn, Competitive Exec Teams, and R…

Steve Cadigan scaled LinkedIn from 400 to 4000 people in 3.5 years, and is now an author and consultant on global talent strategy. He joins Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church to discuss lessons from working with LinkedIn’s CEO during hyper …

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Nov. 9, 2023

Molly Graham on Building a Powerful Network, Managing Your Emotions, …

Molly Graham is a seasoned exec, builder, and widely-read writer in tech. She joins Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church to discuss her lessons from working on different challenges (HR,Comms, GTM, COO) in hyper-scaling companies, career building, assembling strong leadership teams, …

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Nov. 2, 2023

Tomasz Tunguz on Hiring the Right Talent, Firing the Wrong Execs, and…

Tomasz Tunguz is a GP at Theory Ventures and the writer of one of the best blog/newsletters in tech. Tom joins Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church to discuss the relationship between boards, founders and People leaders, and how HR strategies …

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Oct. 26, 2023

Colleen McCreary on Layoffs, M&A, and Recruiting the Best Talent

Colleen McCreary, a seasoned Chief People Officer (Zynga, Credit Karma, EA, Twilio)-turned-venture capitalist at Ribbit Capital, sits down with Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church. This insider conversation covers tactical advice for navigating Mergers and Acquisitions (she’s been through multiple), layoffs, …

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Oct. 19, 2023

Patty McCord Thinks HR People Are Business People

On the inaugural episode of HR Heretics, author and former Chief Talent Officer of Netflix Patty McCord joins co-hosts Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church for a candid interview to talk through how to innovate from the HR role, buck best …

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