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May 3, 2024

Getting to the Bottom of Skill Shortages, Burnout & Engagement: Kristy McCann Flynn, SkillCycle CEO

In this episode of HR Heretics, Kelli and Nolan are joined by Kristy McCann Flynn, a seasoned HR professional with 25 years of experience, who shares her journey from working in traditional HR roles to founding SkillCycle, a company aimed at revolutionizing talent development and performance management. The lively debate…

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May 2, 2024

Politics in the Workplace is Just Distracting

In today's segment, Kelli and Nolan discuss Google firing employees who barricaded themselves in the CEO of Google Cloud, Thomas Kurian's office for nine hours, to protest Google providing cloud computing services to the Israeli Ministry of Defense. Google CEO swiftly released a 'No Politics in the Workplace' message. The…

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April 26, 2024

The Architect of the Paypal Mafia: Peterson Conway

This week Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church sit down with Peterson Conway, headhunter, investor, and advisor who shares insights from his epic career working closely with Silicon Valley greats like Peter Thiel, Kevin Hartz, Keith Rabois, and Joe Lonsdale. Conway has assembled talent for the founding/early teams of Xoom, Palantir,…

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April 10, 2024

Pedigree is Overrated McKinsey is Paying Employees to Quit

Kelli and Nolan discuss the news out of McKinsey this past week: generous packages for employees to opt out of their workforce. Is this a sign that there are no more golden tickets? Kelli and Nolan cover what this move says not only about McKinsey but about pedigreed qualifications more…

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April 5, 2024

The State of Startups in 2023 and 2024: A Conversation with Peter Walker of Carta

In this episode, Nolan and Kelli chat all things “startups data from Carta” with Peter Walker, Head of Insights at Carta. They discuss Carta’s comprehensive report on startup compensation trends in H2 of 2023 influencing the flow of “dry powder” and the alarming increase in startup shutdowns. Peter proves VC’s…

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April 3, 2024

Remote vs. In-Person

Kelli and Nolan tackle the ongoing discussion around remote versus in-person work environments. They talk about the tradeoffs based on where you’re at in your career, the importance of questioning work environment structures, and encouraging listeners to consider what work environment aligns best with their current life phase. HR Heretics…

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March 27, 2024

The Career Advice You Probably Didn't Get

This segment is dedicated to covering what rising mid-career HR professionals really want to know. Janelle Lopez, an incredible HR professional, is brought in to interview us about her next move. Janelle, who worked at Yahoo and SurveyMonkey, has 12 years of transformative experiences under her belt, yet finds herself…

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March 26, 2024

How to Be Layoff-Proof

In this segment, Nolan and Kelli talk about how to be recession- proof and share tactical advice on network-building for a resilient career. HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine. _ SPONSOR: Attio is the next generation of CRM. It’s powerful, flexible and easily configures to the unique way your…

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March 21, 2024

Building Legendary Teams: Trust, Transition, and Quality with JR Rettig of Pendo

In this episode Nolan and Kelli investigate the “recruiting is like art and science” analogy with the Chief People Officer at Pendo, JR Rettig. JR digs into the decisions that led her to the CPO seat, working closely with Kelli. JR also covers the needs for businesses to budget for…

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March 20, 2024

Is Getting Promoted too Quickly A Widespread Problem in Startups?

This segment is all about getting promoted while playing the game of corporate politics, maintaining great relationships, and executing well in your role. In the second half, Kelli and Nolan discuss whether you can get promoted too fast. -- This episode is brought to you by Attio Attio is the…

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March 14, 2024

The Freedom to Fail and Dispassionate Assessment with A.J. Thomas of X, Google's Moonshot Factory

In this episode, Nolan and Kelli host A.J. Thomas of X, the moonshot factory from Alphabet. A.J for a discussion about failure, innovation, and embracing adversity. They also discuss the importance of scenario planning and asking all the questions upfront as a baseline for business optimization. While at X, A.J.…

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March 12, 2024

L.J. Brock, CPO of Coinbase Is Unflinching in the Face of the HR Status Quo

We are so excited to bring you Kelli and Nolan’s interview with L.J. Brock, the CPO of Coinbase – a trailblazing company that has come under scrutiny in the press for their ‘no politics at work’ stance and talent density policies. L.J discusses how Coinbase continues to innovate to drive…

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March 9, 2024

Emergency segment: Chamath wants to abolish HR?

Do companies need HR? Kelli and Nolan discuss a recent episode of All In (the #1 Business podcast in the world) which championed a utopian vision of dismantling HR inside companies, a conversation ignited by Sequoia’s Shaun Maguire exposing Google’s promotion policies. Kelli and Nolan discuss how we even got…

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Jan. 26, 2024

Katelin Holloway: Why Don’t More HR People Work in VC?

In this episode Kelli and Nolan sit down with Katelin Holloway, founding partner at VC firm Seven Seven Six which she started with Alexis Ohanian. Katelin, the former VP of People at Reddit, shares insights from her experience both in HR and breaking into venture. Katelin shares a ton of…

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Jan. 18, 2024

Andreessen Horowitz's Matt Oberhardt on Backchannels, Mock Interviews, and Exec Recruiting in 2024

In this episode of HR Heretics, we have a conversation with Matt Oberhart, partner at Andreessen Horowitz, about the complexities of recruiting executives and finding talent. Matt explains the importance of precision in referencing and maintaining professionalism in recruitment processes. We also cover specific advice for founders, the transition of…

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Jan. 11, 2024

SymphonyAI's Jen Trzepacz on Comp Transparency, Yahoo's Early Days, + CPO-CEO Relationships

Jen Trzepacz, or JT as she's widely known, is a Silicon Valley vet (Yahoo, EA, Salesforce, Living Social) and currently the CPO of SymphonyAI. JT joins Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church to talk about how HR needs to be expertly aligned with the business bottom line, how to do transparency…

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Jan. 8, 2024

HR Heretics Unleashed: DEI Roundtable with Colleen McCreary and David Hanrahan

Friends of the podcast and experienced CPOs Colleen McCreary (CreditKarma, Zynga, Twilio, EA) and David Hanrahan (Flare, formerly EventBrite, Zendesk) join hosts Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church for this roundtable discussion of where the puck is going for DEI in 2024. They offer their takes on the progress made over…

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Jan. 4, 2024

The Enigmatic Q Hamirani on Turnarounds, AI, and the CPO Grind

Q Hamirani, the Chief People Officer at Paper, joins Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church to discuss navigating the CPO seat under immense pressure, the real deal behind Airbnb's remote work policy, how design thinking helps solve people problems, and how the people function should not be left behind by the…

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Dec. 28, 2023

A Deep Dive on Firing Executives

At scaling companies. navigating parting ways with an executive requires finesse, strategic insights, and insider experience. @Run-the-Numbers podcast invited Kelli and Nolan to break down every facet, lever, and little known facts behind successfully exiting execs. Its a great conversation. HR Heretics is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn…

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Dec. 21, 2023

VC Dan Portillo on being the Godfather of Talent Partners, Starting his Own Fund, + Experimentation

Dan Portillo is the founder and GP of The General Partnership, a fund that prioritizes talent in a network-based approach. Formerly he was early-Mozilla and then went on to Greylock where he carved out a role as a talent partner. ✅ Discover HR software that drives performance with Lattice: https://www.lattice.com/hrheretics…

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Dec. 18, 2023

Is the DEI Movement in Tech Causing More Harm than Good?

Kelli and Nolan discuss their different perspectives on the effectiveness of DEI initiatives and the temperature in tech businesses right now. – Feedback is welcome - send a note to Kelli and Nolan on LI to let us know what you think. Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/ Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/ – TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Why…

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Dec. 14, 2023

Navigating the CEO-CPO Relationship with Cara Brennan Allamano of Lattice

Cara Brennan Allamano is the Chief People Officer at Lattice and previously at Udemy, Pinterest, and Adobe. Nolan and Kelli talk to Cara about building effective relationships with CEOs, undergoing layoffs with dignity, and the importance of saying "no" when necessary for the health of the organization. HR Heretics is…

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Dec. 8, 2023

Trash PIPs and Stop Promoting Bad Managers

Hosts Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church cover: Jack Dorsey’s controversial decision to eliminate PIPs, shelve performance reviews, and a broader discussion of the right sized management layer, span of control, performance review systems and how businesses can change their approach towards feedback and evaluations. Make sure you're subscribed to @HRheretics…

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Dec. 7, 2023

Unfiltered: What a Board Member is Telling His Companies to Prepare For in 2024 w Brett Queener

Brett Queener is a partner at Bonfire Ventures, with a background extending to nearly every function as an operator at Salesforce, Smart Recruiters, and more. Brett is well-versed in the mechanics of early-stage companies and this conversation covers the death rate of startups, the point of board meetings, getting people…

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